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[Eagleboy2011]

Glenelg - SANFL

sanfl.com.au

Are we ready for another Tregenza kicking it into the forwards?

Last match for Caleb.

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[GROTTO]

Simon was 20 and 2 weeks when he flayed in the Crows' first AFL game. I would think he could have played 200 or 150 or whatever the SANFL rule was. Had so many injuries in his time at the Crows too, so wouldn't have played many SANFL then.

I was just curious thats all, I saw that he played over 100 games for Port, but I presume that was after his career with the AFC.

 

[TheLeftFist8]

Caleb Tregenza any good?.. anyone seen him play?..

Caleb Tregenza, son of Simon, among talented youngsters in NGA program

The half-back is one of 17 in the NGA/father-son academy

www.afc.com.au

Only 15..

My local club has played against him a few times.

Athletic, smart, skilful by foot (looks better than his Dad!). Certainly has some talent.

Just small in stature/frame atm which makes him an outside type player but obviously that may change with physical development.


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[GROTTO]

My local club has played against him a few times.

Athletic, smart, skilful by foot (looks better than his Dad!). Certainly has some talent.

Just small in stature/frame atm which makes him an outside type player but obviously that may change with physical development.


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What position do you think he may become if he makes it to the AFL?

 

[crows dude]

Is Caleb Tregenza eligible for father son for Port as well?

Only played 107 SANFL games so no

 

[1990crow]

Is Caleb Tregenza eligible for father son for Port as well?

Having watched him he's a fair way from even being state U18 representative when he gets there.

 

[Truck25]

Only played 107 SANFL games so no

It would also fall outside the time frame for SANFL players to qualify for AFL Father son, so only AFL games would apply.

 

[crows dude]

It would also fall outside the time frame for SANFL players to qualify for AFL Father son, so only AFL games would apply.

Of course. Had to be before 1990

 

[1990crow]

Still no Welsh.

 

[Dirty Bird]

Simon was 20 and 2 weeks when he played in the Crows' first AFL game. I wouldn't think he could have played 200 or 150 or whatever the SANFL rule was. Had so many injuries in his time at the Crows too, so wouldn't have played many SANFL then.

needed what, 200 games for Port pre 1997?

Doubt it.

 

[Dirty Bird]

Of course. Had to be before 1990

Before entering the league

So for Adelaide it's 1990, but for Port it's 1996, Freo 1994, West Coast 1986.

Though, iirc, it's 200 for us/port, but only 150 for freo/west coast

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

Before entering the league

So for Adelaide it's 1990, but for Port it's 1996, Freo 1994, West Coast 1986.

Though, iirc, it's 200 for us/port, but only 150 for freo/west coast

How many extra players would we have got if it was 150 instead?

 

[GrommoT]

How many extra players would we have got if it was 150 instead?

Gibbs and the Corneses ... we'd probably still think Kane's a *** but.

 

[Eagleboy2011]

Gibbs and the Corneses ... we'd probably still think Kane's a *** but.

I still can't get the Cornes one. 317 games for Glenelg. 47 for South Adelaide. Archimedes couldn't solve this mathematical equation.

 

[jo172]

I still can't get the Cornes one. 317 games for Glenelg. 47 for South Adelaide. Archimedes couldn't solve this mathematical equation.

From memory the SANFL F/S rule was brought in after Chad and Kane?

Could have gotten them if Graham had coached one more year under the rules when they were drafted.

 

[GrommoT]

I still can't get the Cornes one. 317 games for Glenelg. 47 for South Adelaide. Archimedes couldn't solve this mathematical equation.

Hmmm... that does seem odd - from the Poo board:

At the time both were drafted, the qualifications were rotten.

They needed Graham to have played at least X games (100 or 200 I think) in the SANFL AND at least 50 games in the AFL. Essentially, every player at that stage needed to be eligible for two AFL clubs if one of them was an SA side.


and...

After the Gibbs saga they removed the 20-year eligibility window for Adelaide and Port Adelaide, and tweaked the latter timespan from 1987 to 1986 for West Coast.
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/thre...afl-talk-thread-part-17.1250325/post-69019860
So Chad and Kane became retrospectively ‘eligible’ for Adelaide, Brett Ebert became retrospectively eligible for Port (lol), and Cale and Jarryd Morton became ineligible for West Coast — despite Mitch already having been drafted under the previous rule.

 

[Eagleboy2011]

From memory the SANFL F/S rule was brought in after Chad and Kane?

Could have gotten them if Graham had coached one more year under the rules when they were drafted.

This was on Wiki so probably inaccurate. PA had 6 clubs to pick from. As a Woodville and WTFC person I resent any association with PA.
That 1997 mention to PA cannot be correct. I'm thinking Borlase not being eligible for them.

• The West Coast Eagles could select any player whose father had made 150 WAFL appearances prior to 1987 for Claremont, East Perth, West Perth or Subiaco.
• Adelaide could select any player whose father made 200 SANFL appearances prior to 1991 for South Adelaide, Norwood, Glenelg or Sturt.
• Fremantle could select any player whose father has made 150 WAFL appearances prior to 1995 for East Fremantle, South Fremantle, Perth or Swan Districts.
• Port Adelaide can select any player whose father has made 200 SANFL appearances prior to 1997 for the Port Adelaide Magpies, North Adelaide, West Adelaide, Central District, Woodville or West Torrens.

 

[Truck25]

This was on Wiki so probably inaccurate. PA had 6 clubs to pick from. As a Woodville and WTFC person I resent any association with PA.
That 1997 mention to PA cannot be correct. I'm thinking Borlase not being eligible for them.

• The West Coast Eagles could select any player whose father had made 150 WAFL appearances prior to 1987 for Claremont, East Perth, West Perth or Subiaco.
• Adelaide could select any player whose father made 200 SANFL appearances prior to 1991 for South Adelaide, Norwood, Glenelg or Sturt.
• Fremantle could select any player whose father has made 150 WAFL appearances prior to 1995 for East Fremantle, South Fremantle, Perth or Swan Districts.
• Port Adelaide can select any player whose father has made 200 SANFL appearances prior to 1997 for the Port Adelaide Magpies, North Adelaide, West Adelaide, Central District, Woodville or West Torrens.

so basically we got screwed again, I guess this was where the pattern of bending over for the AFL was started

 

[jo172]

This was on Wiki so probably inaccurate. PA had 6 clubs to pick from. As a Woodville and WTFC person I resent any association with PA.
That 1997 mention to PA cannot be correct. I'm thinking Borlase not being eligible for them.

• The West Coast Eagles could select any player whose father had made 150 WAFL appearances prior to 1987 for Claremont, East Perth, West Perth or Subiaco.
• Adelaide could select any player whose father made 200 SANFL appearances prior to 1991 for South Adelaide, Norwood, Glenelg or Sturt.
• Fremantle could select any player whose father has made 150 WAFL appearances prior to 1995 for East Fremantle, South Fremantle, Perth or Swan Districts.
• Port Adelaide can select any player whose father has made 200 SANFL appearances prior to 1997 for the Port Adelaide Magpies, North Adelaide, West Adelaide, Central District, Woodville or West Torrens.

This was the rule, but it wasn't as at 1999/2000

 

[Eagleboy2011]

so basically we got screwed again, I guess this was where the pattern of bending over for the AFL was started

We had some savvy administrators when we started, and I thought we would have tried to screw the AFL to the max. We must have thought F/S not important. In the Chapman/Trigg era we just became social animals and didn't want to upset the applecart.

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

The Cornes brothers not counting as father/sons feels like a real sliding doors moment

 

[crows dude]

Gibbs and the Corneses ... we'd probably still think Kane's a *** but.

Graham played way over 200 games. So should have had both Cornes boys. Did the father son not exist at that time

 

[crows dude]

The Cornes brothers not counting as father/sons feels like a real sliding doors moment

Surely they did. Conrsey played over 300 games for Glenelg before 1990. I think the period is 20 years. So 1970-90. Cornsey played from 1967-1982 so three years didnt count. Plus back then they counted pre season games and escort cup games in the totals which dont count to the father son figures. So must have brought him below 200 between 1970 and 1982

 

[Vader]

Graham played way over 200 games. So should have had both Cornes boys. Did the father son not exist at that time

Back then they had to have played the 200 games in a 20-year window, between 1971-1990. A fair chunk of Cornes' games were pre-1971, and he also spent 1979 playing for North Melbourne. His 317 games with Glenelg probably also includes a fair number of Escort Cup games, which we all (now) know are not counted by the AFL.

The 20-year window was removed as a result of the review the AFL did, after the Gibbs debacle. The rule change was referred to as the "Grandfather Rule", as most of the players who became newly eligible were so old that they were more likely to have grandsons of draftable age.

The Cornes sons would be eligible under the post-Gibbs rule update, but were not eligible under the original rules.

 

[ams4crows]

With the news of Randall and Rajic having a baby I wonder if there will ever be a Mother Son rule or Mother Daughter?? We already have Father Daughters and Father Sons