dewah07
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By black people you mean black Americans, right?
I may be wrong, but Nic Nat is neither black, nor American. Is he?
These 'serious origins' were that US theatres and movie studios would not employ African Americans, but to portray them they would get white actors to don face paint. Eg Al Jolson. This effectively represented employment discrimination.
How this has the same in context in 21st century Australia staggers me. Why are people melting down over this? Why is this even news?
Well aware of that.
How does that apply to an Australian kid dressing up like his idol?
So if one member of a group doesn't find something offensive then it's ok to offend the rest by doing it?
Strange logic that won't get you far in life.
The kid idolises his football playing ability which has nothing to do with the colour of his skin.
If you buy a NicNat jumper do you paint your face black when you wear your NicNat jumper to a game?
Like I said, do some reading. That will answer your questions.By black people you mean black Americans, right?
I may be wrong, but Nic Nat is neither black, nor American. Is he?
The minstrel show was one aspect of blackface. There was also the fact it denied African Americans the right to work as entertainers. Took years for them to be accepted on the same level of US actors (Sidney Poitier etc)Are you actually? Because you just definitively claimed that the origins of the controversy over blackface was in a labour dispute.
Which makes me think you're not entirely across the issue.
How come Rober Downey Jr didn't get slammed for wearing black face in tropic thunder? I think he even got nominated for an Oscar..?
Its fiction. Anything goes. Game of Thrones has women being r*ped. Movies are full of murder, offensive jokes about all sorts of things religion, race, appearance.Can someone (preferably someone who's angry about this) please explain why this is cool?
- genuine question
Agree with it or not, you'd have to be living under a rock not to know the stigma attached to blackface. So why do it? But I will give this lady the benefit of the doubt and assume she is just ignorant.
EDIT: Just saw her Facebook post. I take back what I said. Celebrating with a wine before midday sums it up nicely.
Why is this movie always brought up in discussions about blackface? It's a one off example that got panned across the board and bears no cultural significance.
Its fiction. Anything goes. Game of Thrones has women being r*ped. Movies are full of murder, offensive jokes about all sorts of things religion, race, appearance.
It doesnt mean its acceptable in real life.
The Facebook post gives this some context. The parent was told not to do it and why it could be a bad idea, but then went ahead with it anyway. Ignorance at best. Should not be defended. The poor grammar and morning wine would suggest another stupid bogan at work.
Another bogan football will have to help educate.
Always good to see the bien pensants replace their race hatred with class hatred.EDIT: Just saw her Facebook post. I take back what I said. Celebrating with a wine before midday sums it up nicely.
So even Nic Nat wasn't aware of why it's offensive in the past, but people have now taught him to be offended by it? The kid clearly meant no harm. We should leave this taboo for American's to get upset over, Aussies don't have a history of oppressing Fijians.
Besides, blackface had a unique sort of style to it (dark black shoe polish colour with a large emphasis on the lips). The kid dressed as Nic Nat isn't really in blackface.
Probably because it's the most well known example of 'whiteface' makeup. I'll give you a few more off the top of my head though.
Josephine Baker
Ike & Tina Turner
Eddie Murphy
Where do you think you are?Sounds fairly innocent, Naitanui has a point that the solution is better education on the subject. Hope this doesn't turn into a shitshow like the Eddie Betts incident
How come Rober Downey Jr didn't get slammed for wearing black face in tropic thunder? I think he even got nominated for an Oscar..?
Sounds fairly innocent, Naitanui has a point that the solution is better education on the subject. Hope this doesn't turn into a shitshow like the Eddie Betts incident