Nixon suspended for 2 years by AFLPA

[Makka]

Anything less than 2 years would of been a joke! So long idiot!

 

[Xtreme]

Should join up with Fev and go on the comedy circuit for the next 2 years.

I also think that he should have been banned for life, utter scumbag who has done a whole lot more than has been reported in recent years.

 

[Tiger2709]

Cant imagine how knobs like you can take such enjoyment from the misfortune of others.

What happened to Nixon was not misfortune, inappropriate dealings with a girl young enough to be his daughter (also someone that had caused a lot of trouble for his clients), possible drug taking etc etc all brought on himself by himself, maybe it's you who is the knob for supporting people like Nixon?

 

[hassa man]

Thought and still thinks He is bigger than the game,substance abuse can do that to You.!!!!

Hassa

 

[TheSpeaker]

Player Manager = Extorsionist

 

[Daytripper]

Really cannot understand the amount of hatred towards Nixon - do any of you even know the bloke ?

He got suspended because he was involving himself with someone who was not acting in the best interests of his clients. The AFLPA rightly pointed out that he is a player manager first and that he must be seen to acting in their interests at all times. Thats it. Two years is about right IMO.

As for those thinking he will got to jail or suffer any sort of criminal action, please take your hopes to Dreamsville USA.

The girl is a completely unreliable witness and would be a defendant lawyer's dream key witness for the prosecution. The available video evidence shows nothing concrete as to any illegality.

One other thing. I think its a good chance his existing players will remain with Flying Start. They have already paid their fee to them as player managers and if they went somewhere else they would then be expected to pay another fee unless the new agency waived it. I also don't think players would want to put up with all the associated paperwork and rigmarole involved with changing agencies mid-season.

Probably won't get too many new clients though.

 

[TheSpeaker]

You make your bed - you lay in it.

 

[ben86]

I don't actually see what he's done wrong? The girl is over the age of consent (16), she has been found to have lied about everything that has happened so far (taking photos, pregnancy, etc) and what he does in his own time is his business.
And why does the AFL need to get involved? He's not employed by them at all!
Media scrutiny is enough - similar situation as Tiger Woods.

 

[DTRAIN87]

I don't actually see what he's done wrong? The girl is over the age of consent (16), she has been found to have lied about everything that has happened so far (taking photos, pregnancy, etc) and what he does in his own time is his business.
And why does the AFL need to get involved? He's not employed by them at all!
Media scrutiny is enough - similar situation as Tiger Woods.

The AFL employs Nixon because without the league, there wouldf be no players and no players means nobody to manage. Ricky brings the game into disrepute because he acts innapropriately with a minor regardless of whether it is legal or not and has engaged in other predatory behaaviour like deal with the girl after Nixon had supported his player's decisions to go on camera and criticise her actions. Not to mention the fact of the Coke possibilities which are illegal.

 

[Daytripper]

The AFL employs Nixon because without the league, there wouldf be no players and no players means nobody to manage. Ricky brings the game into disrepute because he acts innapropriately with a minor regardless of whether it is legal or not and has engaged in other predatory behaaviour like deal with the girl after Nixon had supported his player's decisions to go on camera and criticise her actions. Not to mention the fact of the Coke possibilities which are illegal.

There's just so much wrong with this post that I don't know where to start.

1. The AFL does not employ Nixon. Flying Start is his own business and he does not receive any income from the AFL.

2. The girl is above the age of consent and is not a minor. End of story.

3. The cocaine issue is completely moot. Nobody has any proof and you can't convict someone without proof.

As stated before the AFLPA acted because he liased with somebody who was acting against the best interests of the players he represents. The AFLPA decided that was not an appropriate action for a player manager and therefore suspended him.

Its really not that hard to understand. It's clearly mentioned in their statement.

Sort of off topic but not really, interesting to note that ex David Jones exec Mark McInnes has just got another gig. 12 months ago he was written off, with the media and public baying for his blood. Now he's back.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/busines...emier-retail-ceo/story-e6frfh4f-1226027943800

AUSTRALIA'S most controversial chief executive, Mark McInnes, is back.

Mr McInnes, who was sensationally sacked last year from David Jones amid claims of sexual harassment, will return to corporate life to run billionaire Solomon Lew's retail empire.

Speaking at a morning press conference, Mr McInnes has conceded he did make an error of judgment when he was running ritzy retailer David Jones.

In an apparent reference to the high profile sexual harassment case that threatened to end his stellar career as Australia's premier retailer, Mr McInnes said that it was "true in life you do learn more from your failures than your succcess''.

"I did make an error of judgement but I I owned up to that error of judgement and I apologised to all concerned," Mr McInnes said.

Would not be surprised at all if we were reading the same sort of stuff about Nixon in two years time.

 

[DTRAIN87]

There's just so much wrong with this post that I don't know where to start.

1. The AFL does not employ Nixon. Flying Start is his own business and he does not receive any income from the AFL.

2. The girl is above the age of consent and is not a minor. End of story.

3. The cocaine issue is completely moot. Nobody has any proof and you can't convict someone without proof.

As stated before the AFLPA acted because he liased with somebody who was acting against the best interests of the players he represents. The AFLPA decided that was not an appropriate action for a player manager and therefore suspended him.

Its really not that hard to understand. It's clearly mentioned in their statement.

Sort of off topic but not really, interesting to note that ex David Jones exec Mark McInnes has just got another gig. 12 months ago he was written off, with the media and public baying for his blood. Now he's back.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/busines...emier-retail-ceo/story-e6frfh4f-1226027943800



Would not be surprised at all if we were reading the same sort of stuff about Nixon in two years time.

There is so much wrong with your post. Did you not understand the definition of minor which purports to any individual under 18 years of age? Kim is 17 and was 16 when the Gilbert Fiasco was said to have happened. This is the fact causing her name to have been suropressed.

I agree Nixon is not employed by the AFL in a technical sense but read my point above as to how he gets his work. If it wasn't for the AFL and their rules of operation Nixon would never been in the position to workin that sort of job in the first place. Now the AFL really wouldn't have any right to say anything on his matters that directly relate to their brand and organisation now would they?

The coacine issue is not completely moot yet until the [policwe have undertake and completed their investigation. This is fact.

 

[Daytripper]

There is so much wrong with your post. Did you not understand the definition of minor which purports to any individual under 18 years of age? Kim is 17 and was 16 when the Gilbert Fiasco was said to have happened. This is the fact causing her name to have been suropressed.

No it isn't. Her name has been suppressed because of another pending court case involving another party where her age is a factor.

Its basic common sense anyway seeing as Gilbert was not charged with anything so therefore how could her name be suppressed in relation to any dealings with him ?

I agree Nixon is not employed by the AFL in a technical sense but read my point above as to how he gets his work. If it wasn't for the AFL and their rules of operation Nixon would never been in the position to workin that sort of job in the first place. Now the AFL really wouldn't have any right to say anything on his matters that directly relate to their brand and organisation now would they?

The AFL have no jurisdiction as to how the player managers behave. None. Zero.
Player managers operate individual businesses. In many cases they also manage sportspeople not in the AFL. They are not completely beholden to the AFL.
They are however answerable to the AFLPA as it is the AFLPA members who the player managers work for.

Again, this isn't rocket science.

The coacine issue is not completely moot yet until the [policwe have undertake and completed their investigation. This is fact.

Give the kid a medal. He got a fact right.

IMO however there is absolutely zero chance of this charge proceeding as any half decent lawyer will:
a) argue the video is inadmissable as it was illegally obtained.
b) there is no actual footage of the accused using cocaine
c) there is no actual proof that the substance was cocaine.
d) the witness would probably be the most unreliable witness for anything in Australia. Given the number of lies she has told (and don't think a lawyer wouldn't use it) you would have a hard time believing that the earth was round if she told you.....

 

[Ry009]

Maybe he took one for the team to take the spotlight off Nick et al?

6 conspiracy theories.

 

[ben86]

IMO however there is absolutely zero chance of this charge proceeding as any half decent lawyer will:
a) argue the video is inadmissable as it was illegally obtained.
b) there is no actual footage of the accused using cocaine
c) there is no actual proof that the substance was cocaine.
d) the witness would probably be the most unreliable witness for anything in Australia. Given the number of lies she has told (and don't think a lawyer wouldn't use it) you would have a hard time believing that the earth was round if she told you.....

Good point.
However, couldn't the same points have been used for Ricky if he were to deny the relationship had happened?

I hope Ricky appeals this decision - I still believe he has done nothing wrong, and nothing to deserve being suspended from his job for two years.

 

[Daytripper]

Good point.
However, couldn't the same points have been used for Ricky if he were to deny the relationship had happened?

I hope Ricky appeals this decision - I still believe he has done nothing wrong, and nothing to deserve being suspended from his job for two years.

Those points would only be valid for any pending criminal charge.

Private institutions don't have the same sort of constraints.

 

[TheSpeaker]

DayTripper

2. The girl is above the age of consent and is not a minor. End of story.


The notion of age of consent goes out the window when the adult is portraying a mentoring role as he so often said in his interviews. He said he wanted to assist her and be a mentor for her. However this then means that he therefore has a duty of care whilst dealing with a young person under the age of 18. AKA a minor. This is no different to a teacher or coach. Hope this helps.

 

[DTRAIN87]

No it isn't. Her name has been suppressed because of another pending court case involving another party where her age is a factor.

Its basic common sense anyway seeing as Gilbert was not charged with anything so therefore how could her name be suppressed in relation to any dealings with him ?

The AFL have no jurisdiction as to how the player managers behave. None. Zero.
Player managers operate individual businesses. In many cases they also manage sportspeople not in the AFL. They are not completely beholden to the AFL.
They are however answerable to the AFLPA as it is the AFLPA members who the player managers work for.

Again, this isn't rocket science.

Give the kid a medal. He got a fact right.

IMO however there is absolutely zero chance of this charge proceeding as any half decent lawyer will:
a) argue the video is inadmissable as it was illegally obtained.
b) there is no actual footage of the accused using cocaine
c) there is no actual proof that the substance was cocaine.
d) the witness would probably be the most unreliable witness for anything in Australia. Given the number of lies she has told (and don't think a lawyer wouldn't use it) you would have a hard time believing that the earth was round if she told you.....

Her name was originally surpressed by Justice Shane Marshall, the judge in the Federal Court who issued the interlocutory injunction against the St Kilda girl when this saga broke out. He specifically cited the fact she was a minor as the reason for doing it, despite what other stautes recognise her as legal age b ecause she is a child and vulnerable and needs protecting by the courts in the short term.

The AFL have no jurisdiction over the role of player managers, however the AFL have control over how much the players get paid and the benefits they can take etc from their work. After all, the organisation has to negotiate with the AFL to obtain a beneficial deal for all parties concerned. Not to mention the AFL have the power to prevent agents attending AFL run events such as the draft camp and the draft which are pretty crucial to their business.

POints ABC are valid, however point D would get you in a little bit of trouble with a judge for making an unsubstansiated and fanciful comment.