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[Bokonon_]

Bays lel who would've figured

Have you ever stopped to consider a possible future where your club stayed loyal.to the SANFL as Norwood ultimately did. Working to reform it from inside? Yes the VFL/AFL entry would would probably have been slower, but better organised. Without that schism it's also possible the SANFL would accept and be committed to a role and responsibility for developing young players destined for an AFL career.
I concede the nightmare possibility the AFL might have acted on it's own to create an entity in Adelaide that could waive money at the best players, but it would have been a lot more difficult without Port's collusion.

 

[Papa G]

Have you ever stopped to consider a possible future where your club stayed loyal.to the SANFL as Norwood ultimately did. Working to reform it from inside? Yes the VFL/AFL entry would would probably have been slower, but better organised. Without that schism it's also possible the SANFL would accept and be committed to a role and responsibility for developing young players destined for an AFL career.
I concede the nightmare possibility the AFL might have acted on it's own to create an entity in Adelaide that could waive money at the best players, but it would have been a lot more difficult without Port's collusion.

My God. This shows absolutely no understanding of how it was heading. Absolutely none. Working for reform from the inside? Lol. SA were on the outer. WA had already jumped. There was never going to be fair representation. Any rate Port are in, as they should be. Norwood are now virtually irrelevant. I know which camp I'd rather be in.

 

[Bokonon_]

My God. This shows absolutely no understanding of how it was heading. Absolutely none. Working for reform from the inside? Lol. SA were on the outer. WA had already jumped. There was never going to be fair representation. Any rate Port are in, as they should be. Norwood are now virtually irrelevant. I know which camp I'd rather be in.

Clearly you didn't consider what I said, pity. WA jumped of their own accord, without being pushed. Totally different scenario. It was inevitable that there would be an SA team enter but the way it was done certainly wasn't.

 

[TooFar]

There's a shock, a gws supporter that has nfi on sanfl.

It seem he has a more accurate perspective than most Port (the SANFL is Shit) flogs like yourself.

 

[TooFar]

I'm a Sturt fan, really dislike the Maggies, but supported Port's push into the AFL. It might have been arrogant, and a touch duplicitous, but the guys that were running the SANFL at the time had some outdated idea that footy in this state could continue to thrive without a SA presence in the national league. Port's push just forced their hand.

The SANFL administration were doing what its members wanted. There were numerous surveys at the time, and the overall consensus from SANFL members was to retain the status quo. There was minimal desire to join an expanded VFL. A new NFL, with a more equatable representation from each state would have gained a lot more traction.

Without re-opening old wounds, but if WA and Port had stayed united, the outcome would have been very different.

 

[Gough]

The SANFL administration were doing what its members wanted. There were numerous surveys at the time, and the overall consensus from SANFL members was to retain the status quo. There was minimal desire to join an expanded VFL. A new NFL, with a more equatable representation from each state would have gained a lot more traction.

Without re-opening old wounds, but if WA and Port had stayed united, the outcome would have been very different.

Port were smart enough to recognise the VFL was the strongest competition, and that the longer SA didn't have a place at the table the more the game would suffer. The Footy Park member in the early 90s was a particular parochial version of god's waiting room, if the SANFL had waited for their approval, they'd still be squabbling about getting into bed with the dreaded Vics.

 

[Bokonon_]

Port were smart enough to recognise the VFL was the strongest competition, and that the longer SA didn't have a place at the table the more the game would suffer. The Footy Park member in the early 90s was a particular parochial version of god's waiting room, if the SANFL had waited for their approval, they'd still be squabbling about getting into bed with the dreaded Vics.

It's a fair critique of what I said, and a valid point of view. It comes down to how mich the largest club in tje league would have been capable of instigating change. I frankly dont know enough about the politics so will defer to others.

 

[marty36]

Port were smart enough to recognise the VFL was the strongest competition, and that the longer SA didn't have a place at the table the more the game would suffer. The Footy Park member in the early 90s was a particular parochial version of god's waiting room, if the SANFL had waited for their approval, they'd still be squabbling about getting into bed with the dreaded Vics.

You wouldnt have to be a brain surgeon to work that out, biggest population state that has AFL as its main sport, there werent too many alternatives were there. The VFL had to create the new league being the AFL. It has done so now we see the expansion to the bigger populated states, if it comes off and the northern states adopt the gane, the demographics of who has the most power over football will change again.

As for the WAFL and SANFL , NEAFL , VFL they will be leaugues to themselves no diffrent than the amatuers and other leagues throughout Australia

So with the VFL now taking a step down in teh scheme of things

 

[marty36]

Problem = SANFL and its stagnate leadership. SANFL is an old boys club taking care of mates. They have zero motivation, ideas and smarts to transform the competition to produce a much richer pool of AFL potential talent.

Why do they need to feed another league?

 

[marty36]

Problem = SANFL and its stagnate leadership. SANFL is an old boys club taking care of mates. They have zero motivation, ideas and smarts to transform the competition to produce a much richer pool of AFL potential talent.

I believe the SANFL is a stronger league and develops way more talent than the VFL!

 

[Bokonon_]

I believe the SANFL is a stronger league and develops way more talent than the VFL!

Not disputing what you said. It is the case though thst we are in the NEFL to give games to our reserves and develop them. A past coach said openly we are not in the NEAFL to win it. Seems everyone acccepts this so there isn't the angst there is with the tradition of the SANFL.

 

[Established1870]

It seem he has a more accurate perspective than most Port (the SANFL is Shit) flogs like yourself.

It is?

The SANFL administration were doing what its members wanted. There were numerous surveys at the time, and the overall consensus from SANFL members was to retain the status quo. There was minimal desire to join an expanded VFL. A new NFL, with a more equatable representation from each state would have gained a lot more traction.

Whenever people trot this out, it gives me the shits. If people didn't want AFL football and preferred the state league, then why did the Crows take off like they did whilst the SANFL's attendance dropped in huge numbers once AFL football was introduced? I'd say the SANFL flogs who all hopped onto the Crows and left their old clubs in the dust did more to harm the SANFL then Port ever did.

"nope all ports fault ur the bad guis port paer china wa wa wa".

 

[Bokonon_]

It is?



Whenever people trot this out, it gives me the shits. If people didn't want AFL football and preferred the state league, then why did the Crows take off like they did whilst the SANFL's attendance dropped in huge numbers once AFL football was introduced? I'd say the SANFL flogs who all hopped onto the Crows and left their old clubs in the dust did more to harm the SANFL then Port ever did.

"nope all ports fault ur the bad guis port paer china wa wa wa".

This isn't the bay

 

[Kingfish73]

Haha
Now why would you assume that? Is it your position your club has been supportive if the SANFL?
There's one club in Aussie rules rules history that has faced a unaminous vote to kick it out of it's competition Now who could that be? mmm
Hint: It was Port Magpies

Pffftt - waste of my time to type

 

[Kingfish73]

Bays lel who would've figured

Yeah. Once I read that - it all clicked and made sense

 

[Bokonon_]

Pffftt - waste of my time to type

I've seen some wierd posts, but this one takes the cake. Posting it's not worth your time to post.

Good one

 

[Kingfish73]

I've seen some wierd posts, but this one takes the cake. Posting it's not worth your time to post.

Good one

Time = typing a detailed and balanced response. Now I know the receiver, respect ain't there.

 

[Bokonon_]

Time = typing a detailed and balanced response. Now I know the receiver, respect ain't there.

Actually fair enough
I thought my posts in this thread were pretty balanced.
But you' re right and I was Bokonon. Always wanted a rep amongst Port posters and seem to have succeeded.

 

[JimmyBeerCans]

Actually fair enough
I thought my posts in this thread were pretty balanced.
But you' re right and I was Bokonon. Always wanted a rep amongst Port posters and seem to have succeeded.

Why did you jump off the Crows for GWS?

 

[Bokonon_]

Why did you jump off the Crows for GWS?

I didn't but Merry Christmas. Wont respond further as it getting too far off topic.

 

[marty36]

Time = typing a detailed and balanced response. Now I know the receiver, respect ain't there.

Wandering how you see the state leagues in comparison to themselves being teh VFL, WAFL, SANFL and NEAFL

Interesting VFL clubs dont develop any talent!

We all know there is a national comp called the AFL

 

[simba_]

This isn't the bay

that's all you could reply with? lol. why do flogs that don't know about SA footy continually try to talk about SA footy history, i mean i don't go on netball forums and try to tell the bloody "Melbourne Phoenix" about their history that i wasn't alive for...

 

[Bokonon_]

that's all you could reply with? lol. why do flogs that don't know about SA footy continually try to talk about SA footy history, i mean i don't go on netball forums and try to tell the bloody "Melbourne Phoenix" about their history that i wasn't alive for...

I actually was alive and watching events as they happended. What have I said that factually incorrect?
I will read and consider your response.

 

[Ron The Bear]

Seriously, what is the hate about Adelaide all about. Just a smaller version of Melbourne.

Visited many times, Adelaide gets a bum rap for no reason that I can fathom. Even some of the locals suffer from cultural cringe.

 

[footyfan1978]

Taking the piss. Clearly mean Adelaide bigger version of Horsham.