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[largebus]

Last over from Kelly was awful but the fielding all season has been substandard. Tye dropping gettable catch, Turner missing a run out for 10 metres on a slight angle, make either of those and we win.

We were probably due for a down year but the Scorchers are less clutch than Freo last August. Either win easily or if you put any pressure back on us we shit the bed.

Losing every toss when the chasing team wins 75% of the time doesn't help though

 

[Dump Truck]

You guys in Perth would know more then me.

Is this bloke the drop kick that used to be on the Duff and Quarters podcast

Massive Freo fan and good bloke. His channel were responsible for our hilarious season launch video. Even featured Shauny Mac! Genuinely hilarious dude. Also did the TRAINING THE HOUSE DOWN vid, which every AFL fan should watch.

 

[mightymouse75]

Nah, he good

 

[AstonSouffle]

that’s him alright.

“Content Creators”

Bloke is genuinely hilarious though, props to him for carving out a living creating content in Perth... it's still a small audience over here so guy has done well.

Loved their recent skit where they learned Hindi just to tee off on the Indian cricket team.

 

[Tundrawolf]

Last over from Kelly was awful but the fielding all season has been substandard. Tye dropping gettable catch, Turner missing a run out for 10 metres on a slight angle, make either of those and we win.

We were probably due for a down year but the Scorchers are less clutch than Freo last August. Either win easily or if you put any pressure back on us we shit the bed.

Losing every toss when the chasing team wins 75% of the time doesn't help though

Add to that Tye's silly attempt at a runout at the bowlers end which cost an extra run, putting Sutherland on strike. Then Kelly's feeble fielding the next ball when Sutherland ran back for a second which allowed Sutherland to hit a boundary next ball. It's the little things that add up.

We need a replacement for Tye. Kelly is half the bowler he was 3 seasons ago.

Hurst and Jennings have been unmitigated disasters. Having Brydon Carse as a bowling all-rounder would be handy right now. Carse signed with the Scorchers a couple of years ago but injured himself within weeks of signing.

 

[greatgatsby]

Are the Sutherlands Australia's best sporting siblings at the moment?

 

[ImperialPurple]

Are the Sutherlands Australia's best sporting siblings at the moment?

Drisco and Drisco

 

[Dockeroo]

Are the Sutherlands Australia's best sporting siblings at the moment?

If I recall correctly he was touted as a top 5 pick in the afl draft back around 2018/19 or so

 

[Dockeroo]

Bloke is genuinely hilarious though, props to him for carving out a living creating content in Perth... it's still a small audience over here so guy has done well.

Loved their recent skit where they learned Hindi just to tee off on the Indian cricket team.

Some of their videos are pretty funny. I liked the “if LinkedIn was real life” one

The podcast is terrible tried it and their humour just doesn’t work on it

 

[Piggy Smalls]

Are the Sutherlands Australia's best sporting siblings at the moment?

They've got the Marsh boys covered on current form

 

[Piggy Smalls]

I just read that the hiker missing in Kosciuszko National Park since boxing day has been found alive.
That's a pretty long stint lost in the woods so I wasn't expecting a happy ending.

 

[greatgatsby]

I just read that the hiker missing in Kosciuszko National Park since boxing day has been found alive.
That's a pretty long stint lost in the woods so I wasn't expecting a happy ending.

Yeah great news, they found a fresh camp a couple of days ago which gave searchers fresh hope.

 

[BStaff17]

Are the Sutherlands Australia's best sporting siblings at the moment?

The wonderful Fox Sisters Jess and Noemie have got them covered by the length of the straight

 

[DQ 4EVER]

I just read that the hiker missing in Kosciuszko National Park since boxing day has been found alive.
That's a pretty long stint lost in the woods so I wasn't expecting a happy ending.

He got a happy ending as well?
Talk about lucky

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[greatgatsby]

The wonderful Fox Sisters Jess and Noemie have got them covered by the length of the straight

I do like the male-female balance - not a lot of it in our history.

 

[freo_leo29]

Coops into the test squad for Sri Lanka

Would think low odds to play


Bison out of the squad


Lucky scorchers aren't making finals, losing coops would've been huge

 

[BStaff17]

The flying Bison may as well put the Baggy Green cap away and frame it

He ain't playing another test

 

[Eski3]

The flying Bison may as well put the Baggy Green cap away and frame it

He ain't playing another test

People were saying that before his shock recall in the Ashes. He's not in the starting 11 but he'll be handy depth for another couple of years, particularly if he finds some form again. Needed to be dropped but I wouldn't write him off completely

 

[Docker82]

People were saying that before his shock recall in the Ashes. He's not in the starting 11 but he'll be handy depth for another couple of years, particularly if he finds some form again. Needed to be dropped but I wouldn't write him off completely

Not sure there's ever been more nearly international standard or better pace bowling all rounders in Australia tbh.

Think at 33/34 he's just about done.

 

[BStaff17]

People were saying that before his shock recall in the Ashes. He's not in the starting 11 but he'll be handy depth for another couple of years, particularly if he finds some form again. Needed to be dropped but I wouldn't write him off completely

Beau Webster will get the next 6 months.

Cam Green will be back

Marsh's bowling has fallen further south since 2023 Ashes where he can't bowl 10 overs in a day which means he loses his leverage as an all-rounder.

And his solely reliant on his batting.

He has never been a top 6 quality bat

A flash harry that may come off once every 3 or 4 tests matches if lucky but there is a big enough sample size now to show he isn't a test Batsman.

46 tests and averages 28 with the Bat.

Time to move on.

 

[Paracleet]

Beau Webster will get the next 6 months.

Cam Green will be back

Marsh's bowling has fallen further south since 2023 Ashes where he can't bowl 10 overs in a day which means he loses his leverage as an all-rounder.

And his solely reliant on his batting.

He has never been a top 6 quality bat

A flash harry that may come off once every 3 or 4 tests matches if lucky but there is a big enough sample size now to show he isn't a test Batsman.

46 tests and averages 28 with the Bat.

Time to move on.

For players with 45 tests but less than 75 wickets (I.E. not a bowler) and who was not a keeper Marsh has the 7th lowest average in the history of test cricket:

Mohammad Ashraful (BAN)	2001-2013	61	2737	190	24
SE Gregory (AUS)	1890-1912	58	2282	201	24.53
D Ganga (WI)	1998-2008	48	2160	135	25.71
KR Rutherford (NZ)	1985-1995	56	2465	107*	27.08
ADR Campbell (ZIM)	1992-2002	60	2858	103	27.21
MR Ramprakash (ENG)	1991-2002	52	2350	154	27.32
MR Marsh (AUS)	2014-2024	46	2083	181	28.53

Most you can excuse as to why they got so many tests.

Ganga - Opener, always shaves a few runs off
Gregory - 19th Century
Ashraful - Shit side
Campbell - Shit side
Ramprakash - Averged 53 in first class cricket over 460 matches and made 114 hundreds (equal 15th most in history). You can see why they persisted so long.

Ken Rutherford I'll give him. How he got to 56 tests is a bit of a mystery. Maybe I'll give him Ganga too. Jeez he was shit.

I'll be fair to Mitch though; he did kind of Kim Hughes his average there by being so bad at the end. In fact I think I heard someone on the coverage (maybe day 5 in Melb) say Marshes 4 test results were the worst for a specialist batter for Australia since Hughes's last series in 84/5.

 

[Joao]

He shouldn't be playing for WA (at full strength) as an all-rounder let alone Australia. And absolutely comical if anyone ever actually thought he was "in the best 6 available bats".

 

[Docker82]

For players with 45 tests but less than 75 wickets (I.E. not a bowler) and who was not a keeper Marsh has the 7th lowest average in the history of test cricket:

Mohammad Ashraful (BAN)	2001-2013	61	2737	190	24
SE Gregory (AUS)	1890-1912	58	2282	201	24.53
D Ganga (WI)	1998-2008	48	2160	135	25.71
KR Rutherford (NZ)	1985-1995	56	2465	107*	27.08
ADR Campbell (ZIM)	1992-2002	60	2858	103	27.21
MR Ramprakash (ENG)	1991-2002	52	2350	154	27.32
MR Marsh (AUS)	2014-2024	46	2083	181	28.53

Most you can excuse as to why they got so many tests.

Ganga - Opener, always shaves a few runs off
Gregory - 19th Century
Ashraful - Shit side
Campbell - Shit side
Ramprakash - Averged 53 in first class cricket over 460 matches and made 114 hundreds (equal 15th most in history). You can see why they persisted so long.

Ken Rutherford I'll give him. How he got to 56 tests is a bit of a mystery. Maybe I'll give him Ganga too. Jeez he was shit.

I'll be fair to Mitch though; he did kind of Kim Hughes his average there by being so bad at the end. In fact I think I heard someone on the coverage (maybe day 5 in Melb) say Marshes 4 test results were the worst for a specialist batter for Australia since Hughes's last series in 84/5.

Didn't his brother average sub-5 against India in 2011/12?

That was the worst but for some reason it's been completely forgotten about.

All whilst the rest of the top six averaged over 35 - Ponting and Clarke both averaged 100+.

Edit: Just looked it up - Shaun Marsh made 17 runs in six innings (four tests) for a average of 2.83 batting at no.3. Guess everyone else performing meant he didn't play enough innings in that series but doesn't that make it worse in a way?

 

[Piggy Smalls]

If you put both Marsh brothers in the Test side you'd be lucky to get the combined output of one Test quality batsman. I don't really follow Shield so I can only go off what I've seen in Tests and they are two of the worst out of those that got a decent run at it.

 

[Paracleet]

Didn't his brother average sub-5 against India in 2011/12?

That was the worst but for some reason it's been completely forgotten about.

All whilst the rest of the top six averaged over 35 - Ponting and Clarke both averaged 100+.

Edit: Just looked it up - Shaun Marsh made 17 runs in six innings (four tests) for a average of 2.83 batting at no.3. Guess everyone else performing meant he didn't play enough innings in that series but doesn't that make it worse in a way?

I think your guess is probably correct; only 6 innings. Marsh was 7 and Hughes 8. Shaun actually ended up with a test average of 35. It's not that bad.

Back on Hughes (I love Kim. Well I loved his batting. He himself blows hot and cold as a pundit.) for a moment his last 9 tests were against the West Indies in their pomp: 296 runs at 16.44. Before that last stretch his test average was 41.