No Oppo Supporters Non Bulldog Footy Talk - Bulldogs only - Part 4

[Igloo]

Here's a shiny new thread. Perhaps you'd like to post in it.

 

[Glaeken Oracle]

Terrible story, a real wake-up call to the AFL and broader football community. St Kilda were a disgrace.

Saints weren’t the only ones looking disgraceful out of that article. Implication is every team used the same “tactics”. BFL not exactly covered in glory there either, and the named official.

 

[Spiritof82]

Brilliantly written but shocking article about Robbie Muir. Really worth a read.

The persecution of Robert Muir is a story football doesn't want to hear

A decade-long campaign of racial abuse pushed St Kilda's 1970s star Robert Muir to the point of despair. Russell Jackson spoke to the man who football wiped from its Indigenous history.

www.abc.net.au

Trying to make a saint out of one of the dirtiest players to have played the game

 

[CarnTheScray]

Not watching the game but are Geelong trying at all? Lets hope they play like this next week.

 

[Werewolf]

Brilliantly written but shocking article about Robbie Muir. Really worth a read.

The persecution of Robert Muir is a story football doesn't want to hear

A decade-long campaign of racial abuse pushed St Kilda's 1970s star Robert Muir to the point of despair. Russell Jackson spoke to the man who football wiped from its Indigenous history.

www.abc.net.au

Damn that was hard to read. Muir played well before my time and it was a different country then. It's a shame he had to put up with so much crap, even from "friends", and also St.Kilda haven't properly supported him to this day. It would be too little, too late but he deserves a lot of compensation.

 

[Golden_6]

Would really like Cats to kick away here. Don’t want them to be coming around ‘firing’ after losing to the bottom team.

 

[Next Waiting]

Dare to dream Adelaide. Dare to dream.

 

[weltschmerz]

If Geelong loses, they'll absolutely fire up and belt us next week. Hate to barrack for Dangerfield's mob, but I'd rather us beat them than Adelaide beat them.

 

[Next Waiting]

Would really like Cats to kick away here. Don’t want them to be coming around ‘firing’ after losing to the bottom team.

I'd like to see them have their arses handed to them on a plate by the worst performed team since Fitzroy way back when and then we can we can hand it to them again next week as well. That would be just wonderful.

 

[bresker]

Apart from Stringer and Talia (again the club was proved spot on) where are the other examples?

Players move on in every club. I'm not that bothered, half the league is made up of recycled players.

Dalrymple's move still irks me. I don't know what went on behind the scenes, but if Bev's insistence on Gowers was even one iota of the fractured relationship that's too much.

Nick Austin has moved on too, I guess the Carlton job was a promotion but should we have promoted him? Happy workers don't leave their employers.

 

[Hard Ball Get]

Brilliantly written but shocking article about Robbie Muir. Really worth a read.

The persecution of Robert Muir is a story football doesn't want to hear

A decade-long campaign of racial abuse pushed St Kilda's 1970s star Robert Muir to the point of despair. Russell Jackson spoke to the man who football wiped from its Indigenous history.

www.abc.net.au

Really shocking, truly is. But so was his violence. We should not accept the things he was subjected to, but nor should we accept the things that he did in retaliation.

 

[Hard Ball Get]

Players move on in every club. I'm not that bothered, half the league is made up of recycled players.

Dalrymple's move still irks me. I don't know what went on behind the scenes, but if Bev's insistence on Gowers was even one iota of the fractured relationship that's too much.

Nick Austin has moved on too, I guess the Carlton job was a promotion but should we have promoted him? Happy workers don't leave their employers.

The Dalrymple thing has been put to bed, it wasn't a factor and either way, Bev was right.

Happy workers leave all the time...

 

[bresker]

putting Muir in the 'too hard' basket, discouraging the mere mention of his name. They say it's out of care, that drawing attention to his battles will only make his life worse. In fact, it makes their own lives easier, avoiding an awkward confrontation of the systems of power and privilege that raised them up as Muir was pushed down.

Pretty much white Australia's relationship with our First Peoples in a nutshell

 

[bresker]

The Dalrymple thing has been put to bed, it wasn't a factor and either way, Bev was right.

Has it? I'm not being a smartarse but you seem to know more about the situation than most, care to elaborate? I might have missed something.

He was a key architect of the premierhip, I was at the AGM when Peter Gordon said a warm but muted goodbye to him. There was a strained atmosphere in the room. I guess a lot went on behind the scenes but the club owes him a lot.

 

[weltschmerz]

Jeez Dangerfield's such a protected species you'd think he plays for Richmond.

 

[Sentinel]

Trying to make a saint out of one of the dirtiest players to have played the game

That's not what the article is doing.

 

[Hard Ball Get]

Has it? I'm not being a smartarse but you seem to know more about the situation than most, care to elaborate? I might have missed something.

He was a key architect of the premierhip, I was at the AGM when Peter Gordon said a warm but muted goodbye to him. There was a strained atmosphere in the room. I guess a lot went on behind the scenes but the club owes him a lot.

Someone else here has elaborated a few times. He had a strained relationship with quite a few at the club and wasnt on speaking terms with McCartney.

I don't know either of them, but l know a friend of Dalrymple... Him leaving wasnt because of Bev wanting to take Billy.

 

[bresker]

Someone else here has elaborated a few times. He had a strained relationship with quite a few at the club and wasnt on speaking terms with McCartney.

I don't know either of them, but l know a friend of Dalrymple... Him leaving wasnt because of Bev wanting to take Billy.

Fair enough, I'm drawing a long bow and might well be missing the target

 

[Werewolf]

Terrible story, a real wake-up call to the AFL and broader football community. St Kilda were a disgrace.

Still are.

St. Kilda have apologised and pledged to support Muir, so hopefully things pick up for him from now on:

St Kilda, AFL apologise to ex-player Robert Muir after accounts of horrible racism surface

The Saints and the AFL have released statements in regards to the racism suffered by former player Robert Muir

www.afl.com.au

 

[Mantis Toboggan]

No prizes for guessing where Dan Butler leaned to flop like that.

If he doesn’t get punished for that it will be a disgrace. Blatant cheating.

 

[bresker]

 

[Next Waiting]

Fair enough.That triple chinned #%@$ probably threw more than his fair share of sh1t at indigenous players from the safety of the Vic park stands. Y should Muir make it easy for the fat %$@@. He was still doing it when Goodes was at his end.

 

[Glaeken Oracle]

St. Kilda have apologised and pledged to support Muir, so hopefully things pick up for him from now on:

St Kilda, AFL apologise to ex-player Robert Muir after accounts of horrible racism surface

The Saints and the AFL have released statements in regards to the racism suffered by former player Robert Muir

www.afl.com.au

That’s good to see, but sounds like there’s quite a few people who should be apologising personally to him as well. I’m not absolving anyone associated with our club if the shoe fits, but you’d hope Pies and/or their cheer squad would reach out, but given their tone-deaf president, that would be a break from their usual belligerence. Some former Saints and Cats named in the article as well, plus a few past officials of the BFL, who I hope are still around and aware of the article.

 

[Mattdougie]

Has it? I'm not being a smartarse but you seem to know more about the situation than most, care to elaborate? I might have missed something.

He was a key architect of the premierhip, I was at the AGM when Peter Gordon said a warm but muted goodbye to him. There was a strained atmosphere in the room. I guess a lot went on behind the scenes but the club owes him a lot.

If you believe everything the club says it’s fine Apparently.

I’ve spoken to several people with far more interaction wit the club and they all say Dalrymple basically resigned on the spot and has absolute zero contact with anyone at the club now.

 

[ScottyDogg]

Does anyone get Michael Jackson vibes from Eric Hipwood? Every time I see his photo on the afl stats page I hear Michael speaking with a quiet high pitched voice.