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Could be true.
Or it's because their club has a significant benefactor who happens to pay family members very well for jobs they may or may not be qualified.
The salary cap is broken.
You can make an argument that Hawkins is retiring etc etc but you could say the same for every club.
The fact that the Geelong can trade in superstars every year despite being at the top since forever, even taking a salary dump in their premiership year… it’s ****ed.
Some of it is dodgy outside deals, some of it is players taking pay cuts to play for successful clubs.
That is not how the salary cap is supposed to work.
It’s the bottom clubs (North for example) that should be bringing in superstars since they should have cap space. Not the Geelongs of the world.
The landscape has changed and we’re going to see the top 4 teams win year after year, while the have nots are on a different playing field.
The only way to fix it is for clubs to be able to trade players without their consent while in contact, but players refuse it because they couldn’t get all these kick backs they currently get.
You can make an argument that Hawkins is retiring etc etc but you could say the same for every club.
The fact that the Geelong can trade in superstars every year despite being at the top since forever, even taking a salary dump in their premiership year… it’s ****ed.
Some of it is dodgy outside deals, some of it is players taking pay cuts to play for successful clubs.
That is not how the salary cap is supposed to work.
It’s the bottom clubs (North for example) that should be bringing in superstars since they should have cap space. Not the Geelongs of the world.
The landscape has changed and we’re going to see the top 4 teams win year after year, while the have nots are on a different playing field.
The only way to fix it is for clubs to be able to trade players without their consent while in contact, but players refuse it because they couldn’t get all these kick backs they currently get.
Who exactly are the big three mids?. JHF definitely, but if you are referring to Butters or Rozee they are both very, very overated. Butters is too mentally unstable to be elite and Rozee is too soft.
Houston is far more important than either of those two flogs
Port finished top 4 purely because of JHF carrying them all on his back. If he has an off game or gets shut down Port will lose more often than not.
Butters = overrated?
Rozee = overrated?
If either even looked in our direction we’d be telling anyone who would listen how exciting the whole experience of direct eye-contact was.
I’d hate to see the same microscope applied to our list!!
Where are you getting the Don Pyke doesn't want him from? Ken would be a very good coach for them for 3-4 years given where they are right now. They don't need to worry about his finals record right at the moment, that's years away and they can give him 1 crack at it and then move him on if it fails.
about even for contested possessions, clearances and inside 50s. Got killed in the exact manner you described.
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We'd be too scared to offer someone work experience after Tippettgate
I don't really see their list as being any more expensive than clubs like Brisbane and Melbourne.
Of 43 ladder predictions in our preseason thread, only 6 predicted a top 8 finish, the highest being 5th. relapse , who liked this post judged their salary cap cheating list as being capable of finishing 12th, which aligned with the average expectation (12.18th). aabp1978 who posted the first claim of salary cap cheating had also adjudged the list as being of 12th finishing position quality.
This 'costa living allowance' stuff is just so lazy. Posters who looked at the list and saw it equal of ours are now trying to say that the only reason they're good is because the list is stacked full of players getting paid outside the club, it's just too good to be compliant.
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Just waiting for Rowey on 5AA to play - can you feel it - just to piss Giniver off even more
The question is how they fit everyone under the cap in 2025, not 2027. Even backloading contracts will only take you so far.
... it all boils down to the Costa Living Allowance (thanks again to Kane McGoodwin).
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There was always the talk about Frank Costa looking after high profiled Geelong players financially.
From memory I'm pretty sure that Frank Costa had Dangerfield's mum on the payroll at some point, it was all highly dodgy.
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Wasn't Danger's dad a "recruiter" for us?
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We did have have his old man John Dangerfield doing some player scouting in the South/West Vic area for us at one stage too when Patty was with us.
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Beat me to it while I was typing mine!
Mentioned on the radio this afternoon Ken thinks his tenure will be over if they don't at least make a Prelim. And also that WC are prepared to offer a longer term contract to secure him?
I guess if the WC rumours are legit, the power won't have to pay out his contract?
Hard to believe he can walk out on the power and go straight to WC after 12 years. Most coaches that have made career changes or been sacked have needed to take a bit of time off to clear their heads
TBH I find it all a bit weird
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Been plenty of Cats player family members on Costa's payroll.
Also, some rather favourable property deals...
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Their list isn't that good. They've got half a dozen 32 year olds that have won premierships and are probably prolonging their careers for peanuts (Hawkins and Tuohy retired, also got Dangerfield, Duncan, Stanley, Guthrie)
The middle of their list experience wise are pretty standard role players like Henry, Miers, Atkins, Close. They've got a few younger stars like Holmes and De Koning to pay but no crazy bulk of young superstars.
Couple of big dollar players like Cameron and Stewart
I'd be gobsmacked if that sort of list in 2025 was over the cap even adding in a million dollar player like Bailey Smith
Like he did last week.....
Hire Ken because he is barely adequate, but not the best?
You sure you ain't a Public Servant?
Just can't see Pyke hiring a coach he personally beat as often as he did.
Hire Ken because he is barely adequate, but not the best?
You sure you ain't a Public Servant?
Just can't see Pyke hiring a coach he personally beat as often as he did.
I think good operators appoint the right coach for the right reasons. Bit like us, nothing wrong with getting a nice guy for 2-3 years, we then needed to move on. Ken can get them relevant again with zero risk. If they lob on a Bolton or Neeld, they can kiss 5 more years goodbye.
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