Opinion Non-Crows AFL 11

[FR0GGY]

So how does that work with future picks given that we've just traded Melbourne's pick back to them that they traded to us for McAdam?

Different draft/trade period so no issues.

 

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Different draft/trade period so no issues.

LOL

Classic AFL mentality.

So Team A can't trade a pick to Team B for that season and have it traded back to them, but you can trade next year's pick to Team B and Team B can trade it back to you in 12 months time.

Seems logical

 

[FR0GGY]

LOL

Classic AFL mentality.

So Team A can't trade a pick to Team B for that season and have it traded back to them, but you can trade next year's pick to Team B and Team B can trade it back to you in 12 months time.

Seems logical

Logical to me, it was to stop Sydney doing what they did a few years ago when they traded out a pick live when they had a player bid on and matched then they traded that pick back in.

 

[50BC]

So how does that work with future picks given that we've just traded Melbourne's pick back to them that they traded to us for McAdam?

Cos it's in 2 different trade periods

 

[50BC]

Logical to me, it was to stop Sydney doing what they did a few years ago when they traded out a pick live when they had a player bid on and matched then they traded that pick back in.

Yeah exactly that I think, excessive manipulating of father son/ academy matching points

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

Reports that Richmond want more than pick 6 for Rioli. Surely they are taking the piss. Pick 6 is well overs. I'd be furious if we gave up that for Rioli.
It's a joke right.

They know that GC are pushovers

 

[DJ75]

They know that GC are pushovers

Surely GC want Sam Berry.
A future 1st should do it.

 

[rabidcrow]

I'd love to see 13 go back to GC.

That way it will work out that Houston was pretty much a straight swap for Luko which would be hilarious when Port supporters were talking up 2 first round picks for Houston and claiming that they were going to get Luko for peanuts.

It’s been pretty widely reported. Port are looking for a first plus something else (ideally another first) for Houston
They will then ship off their F1 to GC for Luko (may get something back)

GC will give up Luko and 13 - for 2 F1’s, Ports and whoever ends up with Houston


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[Kane McGoodwin]

Reports that Richmond want more than pick 6 for Rioli. Surely they are taking the piss. Pick 6 is well overs. I'd be furious if we gave up that for Rioli.
It's a joke right.

Surely GC take pick #6 to the draft & chase other players if Richmond don't want to get serious.

 

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It’s been pretty widely reported. Port are looking for a first plus something else (ideally another first) for Houston
They will then ship off their F1 to GC for Luko (may get something back)

GC will give up Luko and 13 - for 2 F1’s, Ports and whoever ends up with Houston


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I just don't see them getting two firsts for Houston.

Carlton aren't interested in giving them Pick 11, so there's no way they're getting much more than 13.

That's about his value maybe with some change.

I tend to think that Port will most probably want Houston and Luko trades linked to make it more palatable to the Port supporters who have their hopes up for getting two first rounders.

 

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Surely GC take pick #6 to the draft & chase other players if Richmond don't want to get serious.

Richmond would be idiots if they didn't take 6.

This draft is really strong this year and having really early picks could potentially fast track a rebuild.

No way do Richmond knock it back, it's massive overs IMO

 

[Bay62]

Why are Sydney playing hardball over Parker?

He hasn’t been in the team, injury prone, end of his career, faithful servant for years, wants to move to NM and he’d help a basket case get better

Let him go

 

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Why are Sydney playing hardball over Parker?

He hasn’t been in the team, injury prone, end of his career, faithful servant for years, wants to move to NM and he’d help a basket case get better

Let him go

I think Sydney are trying to hold out for Pick 44.

Apparently North offered Pick 67, which is worthless to them.

Parker is still contracted so Sydney aren't just going to give him away for free.

 

[George Kramer]

Crikey and to think we are their bitches, ouch

 

[GROTTO]

Crikey and to think we are their bitches, ouch

Interesting that 3 of those 10 decisions involved former Crows players.

 

[DJ75]

Houston settles on his preferred club, right around the time the AFL clear Port to trade their future first (completely not against the rules of course).
It's almost like it's all orchestrated.

 

[MarcusP2]

Houston settles on his preferred club, right around the time the AFL clear Port to trade their future first (completely not against the rules of course).
It's almost like it's all orchestrated.

The AFL decision makes perfect sense, they have a #1 pick from 3 years ago on their list.

 

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Houston settles on his preferred club, right around the time the AFL clear Port to trade their future first (completely not against the rules of course).
It's almost like it's all orchestrated.

If Port get a first rounder for Houston it then frees up their F1 to be traded.

The AFL will accept JHF in lieu of a draft pick and selecting a player this year will meet the 2 in 4 rule.

That's why Port don't hold the whip hand with Houston because if they don't trade him then Luko will be off the table.

 

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I've just read that Port have been allowed to trade their F1 now, looks like even without trading Houston.

Seriously WTF, the rules are a joke and the AFL clearly are just making shit up as they go along.

AFL, "You must make 2 selection in the draft every 4 years"

Port trade their 2022. 2023 and 2024 first rounders and according to the AFL there's nothing to see here about them trading their 2025 pick.

It's like how the AFL told us not to bother trying to orchestrate a salary dump trade with St Kilda because it won't be rubber stamped, but they rubber stamp the Bowes deal two years later.

I remember a few years ago that either Hawthorn or Essendon were knocked back on a trade being approved due to it breaking the trading rules, but when it suits them they're happy to approve trades that contravene the rule.

The whole thing is a joke, they either enforce the rules or don't even bother having them.

 

[Cap]

I've just read that Port have been allowed to trade their F1 now, looks like even without trading Houston.

Seriously WTF, the rules are a joke and the AFL clearly are just making shit up as they go along.

AFL, "You must make 2 selection in the draft every 4 years"

Port trade their 2022. 2023 and 2024 first rounders and according to the AFL there nothing to see here about them trading their 2025 pick.

It's like how the AFL told us not to bother trying to orchestrate a salary dump trade with St Kilda because it won't be rubber stamped, but they rubber stamp the Bowes deal two years later.

I remember a few years ago that either Hawthorn or Essendon were knocked back on a trade being approved due to the trading rules, but when it suits them they're happy to approve trades that contravene the rule.

The whole thing is a joke, they either enforce the rules or don't even bother having them.

Absolutely not disagreeing with you in terms of the AFL being a joke.

With this one, do you think they can see Port have the runs on the board given their constant top 8 performances?

I always thought the whole can't trade your your firsts rule was to stop clubs like ours/GC/NM/Stk etc trading out firsts to try and speed up a rebuild, they have themselves an out for clubs who have proven their ability to manage their lists, by having to ask for permission?

 

[radiojake]

Absolutely not disagreeing with you in terms of the AFL being a joke.

With this one, do you think they can see Port have the runs on the board given their constant top 8 performances?

I always thought the whole can't trade your your firsts rule was to stop clubs like ours/GC/NM/Stk etc trading out firsts to try and speed up a rebuild, they have themselves an out for clubs who have proven their ability to manage their lists, by having to ask for permission?

I also think that 2 of those first rounders were for Horne-Francis, who you could argue is like a new first rounder given how early in his career he was when they got him

It's not as if they've gone and used all those first rounders for blokes 28+

 

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Absolutely not disagreeing with you in terms of the AFL being a joke.

With this one, do you think they can see Port have the runs on the board given their constant top 8 performances?

I always thought the whole can't trade your your firsts rule was to stop clubs like ours/GC/NM/Stk etc trading out firsts to try and speed up a rebuild, they have themselves an out for clubs who have proven their ability to manage their lists, by having to ask for permission?

The issue I have is that you either enforce the rules or you don't.

There's clubs who would have been consciously basing their list management around those parameters and have potentially missed out on opportunities to chase players because of those rules, while the AFL just allow other clubs to just do what they want.

It's basically a disadvantage to the clubs that have done the right thing.

 

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I also think that 2 of those first rounders were for Horne-Francis, who you could argue is like a new first rounder given how early in his career he was when they got him

It's not as if they've gone and used all those first rounders for blokes 28+

That's 1 player though.

The problem is that Port are like a kid who spends all of his pocket money and then asks for more.

I have no issue with them trading a F1 if they get a first for Houston and they use the pick at the draft, but if they don't trade Houston and trade a F1 then it's a joke.

 

[Cap]

The issue I have is that you either enforce the rules or you don't.

There's clubs who would have been consciously basing their list management around those parameters and have potentially missed out on opportunities to chase players because of those rules, while the AFL just allow other clubs to just do what they want.

It's basically a disadvantage to the clubs that have done the right thing.

Can't anyone ask for permission though?

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Surprised there are any rules around it

As long as the spending is only one year down the track it's not like some lunatic can trade away the future of the club while on a bender