Opinion Non-Crows AFL 11

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

We would all take the Dees record of the past decade over ours... but this discussion is about how they are travelling now.

Yes, I understand

I'm pointing out the sheer idiocy of critiquing a post-premiership and post-top four blip when either of those things are distant memories for us.

 

[Cromulant]

Yes, I understand

I'm pointing out the sheer idiocy of critiquing a post-premiership and post-top four blip when either of those things are distant memories for us.

It depends on whether you hold the coach responsible for those things i guess.

It's clear there's some pretty significant issues at the club, and probably were during their premiership year too. Who is to blame ??

 

[FR0GGY]

Yes, I understand

I'm pointing out the sheer idiocy of critiquing a post-premiership and post-top four blip when either of those things are distant memories for us.

Does that mean we can only discuss 3 teams?
No one is trying to compare us to them, just stating facts that Melbourne are on the slide.
Everyone would take Melbournes record since Covid over ours.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

It depends on whether you hold the coach responsible for those things i guess.

It's clear there's some pretty significant issues at the club, and probably were during their premiership year too. Who is to blame ??

Who gives a flying shit how premierships are won?

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Does that mean we can only discuss 3 teams?
No one is trying to compare us to them, just stating facts that Melbourne are on the slide.
Everyone would take Melbournes record since Covid over ours.

Every sporting team in history hasn't just won continual premierships for eternity under the same coach

 

[Cromulant]

Who gives a flying shit how premierships are won?

Are we talking about them, or what's happened since ??

 

[Cromulant]

Every sporting team in history hasn't just won continual premierships for eternity under the same coach

Yep so therefore we can't talk about the current cluster that is Melbourne because we haven't won one.

Got it.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Yep so therefore we can't talk about the current cluster that is Melbourne because we haven't won one.

Got it.

Or we can understand that the amount of criticism Goodwin cops comically outweighs the levels of criticism of other coaches who have won and achieved less

 

[FullyBigKPro]

Can you fill me in on what the knock on Goodwin is specifically? Obviously there are issues at the club. Is is just a general thing like "the club is bad and has culture problems, something must be wrong with the coach", or is there something specific that Goodwin is being accused of?

Too rigid, too defensive, unwilling to change, very 'boys club' culture.

Off field culture is a TOTAL mess at the Dee's.

 

[GROTTO]

Every sporting team in history hasn't just won continual premierships for eternity under the same coach

Sir Alex Ferguson has entered the chatroom. 38 Trophies for United - Close to Eternity.

Manchester United – 38
Premier League x 13 (1992–93, 1993–94, 1995–96, 1996–97, 1998–99, 1999–2000, 2000–01, 2002–03, 2006–07, 2007–08, 2008–09, 2010–11, 2012–13)

FA Cup x 5 (1989–90, 1993–94, 1995–96, 1998–99, 2003–04)

League Cup x 4 (1991–92, 2005–06, 2008–09, 2009–10)

Community Shield x 10 (1990 [shared], 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011)

UEFA Champions League x 2 (1998–99, 2007–08)

European Cup Winners’ Cup x 1 (1990–91)

European Super Cup x 1 (1991)

Intercontinental Cup x 1 (1999)

FIFA Club World Cup x 1 (2008)

 

[FR0GGY]

Every sporting team in history hasn't just won continual premierships for eternity under the same coach

No one has said they do.

 

[GROTTO]

Who gives a flying shit how premierships are won?

Exactly look at some of the Eagles players during their period of dominance in the 2000s.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Yes, I understand

I'm pointing out the sheer idiocy of critiquing a post-premiership and post-top four blip when either of those things are distant memories for us.

So we can't comment on other sides because the Crows are shit?

That would make for a very quiet thread...

 

[GROTTO]

So we can't comment on other sides because the Crows are shit?

That would make for a very quiet thread...

If we didnt talk about Port on this thread, there would be only 2-3 posts on here.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

If we didnt talk about Port on this thread, there would be only 2-3 posts on here.

Thankfully they don't look like winning a flag under Hinkley which makes it much more bearable!

 

[GreyCrow]

If we didnt talk about Port on this thread, there would be only 2-3 posts on here.

We would never get to page 119

 

[GROTTO]

Appears the wheels have fallen off & key players want out.

Taken from a premiership & best side to out of a premiership window very quickly.

If Dees struggle again next season, imo his time will be up.

With the number of ex-Premiership coaches and GF coaches on the sidelines, you would think the Dees would definitely be exploring Simpson, Buckley and Horse at the very least, if the Dees continue to slide.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

With the number of ex-Premiership coaches and GF coaches on the sidelines, you would think the Dees would definitely be exploring Simpson, Buckley and Horse at the very least, if the Dees continue to slide.

Hoping we are too!

 

[GROTTO]

Thankfully they don't look like winning a flag under Hinkley which makes it much more bearable!

I cant begin to tell you how many times over the 2020s, I get nervous around September.

Hinkley has fooled me in previous years in believing this is the year.

I think we are definitely in the clear now. Butters should probably leave this year or next, that distraction alone will be enough to screw them over.

Rozee and Francis are not enough to steer them to a flag.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I cant begin to tell you how many times over the 2020s, I get nervous around September.

Hinkley has fooled me in previous years in believing this is the year.

I think we are definitely in the clear now. Butters should probably leave this year or next, that distraction alone will be enough to screw them over.

Rozee and Francis are not enough to steer them to a flag.

Too many holes in their list imo.

Much prefer ours as believe we are better balanced.

 

[GROTTO]

Too many holes in their list imo.

Much prefer ours as believe we are better balanced.

Comfortably too. Our starting 18 is significantly better all around the ground (injury free) to theirs the last time we met.

We will break them in the next Showdown.

Would appreciate if any eager beavers out there if they could list the teams that played the last Showdown vs the potential Crows starting 18 in 2025 vs Port.

 

[Floating Doughnut]

Dwayne polling well there.

It's funny, he's one of the most hated commentators on BF yet he's well-regared outside of the forum. Make of that you will.

Although it is a CH 7 v Fox television preference poll it was run by SEN.
So would be a fair bit of bias towards Dwayne I would think with his radio work.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Comfortably too. Our starting 18 is significantly better all around the ground (injury free) to theirs the last time we met.

We will break them in the next Showdown.

Would appreciate if any eager beavers out there if they could list the teams that played the last Showdown vs the potential Crows starting 18 in 2025 vs Port.

Port side has more uncertainty that ours, but will give it a crack...

B: Michaelanny, Murray, Keane
F: Rioli, Finlayson, Georgiades

HB: Cumming, Worrell, Hinge
HF: Rozee, Lukosius, SPP

C: Sholl, Dawson, Peatling
C: Burgoyne, Drew, Boak

HF: ANB, Fogarty, Keays
HB: Farrell, Ratugolea, Evans

F: Rachele, Thilthorpe, Walker
B: Bergman, Aliir, BZT

R: O’Brien, Soligo, Rankine
R: Sweet, JHF, Butters

i: Laird, Crouch, Curtin, Draper
I: Jones, Wines, Mead, Byrne-Jones

Sub: Pedlar
Sub: Richards

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

So we can't comment on other sides because the Crows are shit?

That would make for a very quiet thread...

Or we can acknowledge that the guy who broke a 57 year premiership drought at a lowly resourced club perhaps has something going for him

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Or we can acknowledge that the guy who broke a 57 year premiership drought at a lowly resourced club perhaps has something going for him

He did at the time, but the club is now not a good space.

Things can change quickly...