Oppo Camp Non-Eagles Discussion

[Chief]

Continued in Part 2:

Oppo Camp - Non-Eagles Discussion

Who gives a **** about finals anyway So overrated It’s all about the draft these days

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[Farang83150]

Personally won’t ever be rooting to finish 18th. Especially for a Victorian kid in a generation when the “go-home” card is a huge factor

Reid's a country boy

 

[peeky]

You are standing next to the post make a call ffs

 

[Ilkka Sinisalo]

Let me again voice my objection to a system in which a very good Collingwood side gets gifted an absolutely elite talent who will probably be one of the best players in the comp for the next decade, and then the following year a very good Brisbane side get a ready-made big bodied mid who will also be an elite player for years to come, simply because their dads played footy for those clubs.

The point of the draft is to allow the worst teams to draft elite players who can change the direction of their franchise for the better, and instead you have flag contenders grabbing the best teenagers at the price of a few mediocre picks.

 

[Forward Press]

Well it only took 5 rounds but there are now no undefeated sides in the competition.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

You are standing next to the post make a call ffs

I mean, they make a call, but why not use the review system if they need to?

 

[Free Agent]

Personally won’t ever be rooting to finish 18th. Especially for a Victorian kid in a generation when the “go-home” card is a huge factor

I honestly think the go home factor has hurt WA clubs badly. We can't just draft anyone anymore regardless what pick we have. It's comprised each year. Eagles should be giving a please explain to AFL headquarters on the matter as we are hugely disadvantaged. The fact we got Gibney at pick 8 was the biggest fluke you can get. It doesn't change the way we had no choice to split our top pick. In reality we had pick 2 but couldn't draft most of the top 5 due to go home factors. It worked this year for us with Gibney but it won't work in the future relying on splitting top 3 picks because we can't draft anyone and can only get WA players.

AFL should give us a high priority pick as compensation on this matter and the fact we can't rebuild due to it. I'm not sure what's going to happen come the end of the year but likely it will be similar and players getting drafted will be making pleas for us not to draft them like Sheezel did. Who's to say Harley Reid will do the same.

 

[Truckosaurus]

Looks like Wingard won't be mouthing off at anyone for awhile.

 

[Cursedsword02]

The positions are certain to change, but I feel like this will be the final Top 8.

 

[Farang83150]

Looks like Wingard won't be mouthing off at anyone for awhile.

Had that happen at Uluwatu years ago, chinned my board, the amount of blood that flows from a cut tongue is amazing, thought for sure I'd run out of the stuff!

 

[Ilkka Sinisalo]

I honestly think the go home factor has hurt WA clubs badly. We can't just draft anyone anymore regardless what pick we have. It's comprised each year. Eagles should be giving a please explain to AFL headquarters on the matter as we are hugely disadvantaged. The fact we got Gibney at pick 8 was the biggest fluke you can get. It doesn't change the way we had no choice to split our top pick. In reality we had pick 2 but couldn't draft most of the top 5 due to go home factors. It worked this year for us with Gibney but it won't work in the future relying on splitting top 3 picks because we can't draft anyone and can only get WA players.

AFL should give us a high priority pick as compensation on this matter and the fact we can't rebuild due to it. I'm not sure what's going to happen come the end of the year but likely it will be similar and players getting drafted will be making pleas for us not to draft them like Sheezel did. Who's to say Harley Reid will do the same.

I don’t think the solution is compensation because you’d have to give compensation to every club outside Vic. The AFL needs to negotiate a bargaining agreement with the AFLPA such that first year draft-eligible players are contracted to the club that selects them for four years. If someone like Jason Horne-Francis wants to go home, he can put his time in at the club that drafts him and then maybe after 3 years he tells them “hey I’m not going to re-sign here, I want to go back to Adelaide” and they trade him then. But it’s a farce that teenagers can go into a draft in a national competition telling some or most of the clubs not to draft them because they’ll leave after a year.

 

[Forward Press]

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The positions are certain to change, but I feel like this will be the final Top 8.

Bold move leaving out Geelong.

 

[briztoon]

Let me again voice my objection to a system in which a very good Collingwood side gets gifted an absolutely elite talent who will probably be one of the best players in the comp for the next decade, and then the following year a very good Brisbane side get a ready-made big bodied mid who will also be an elite player for years to come, simply because their dads played footy for those clubs.

The point of the draft is to allow the worst teams to draft elite players who can change the direction of their franchise for the better, and instead you have flag contenders grabbing the best teenagers at the price of a few mediocre picks.

So you actually haven't see Ashcroft yet!

You're going to hate next years draft.

 

[Rowan18]

Looks like Wingard won't be mouthing off at anyone for awhile.

You have to be a real peanut to play Aussie rules at any level without a mouthguard in.

 

[Rowan18]

Bold move leaving out Geelong.

I'm not impressed with them. They've beaten the bottom two teams on the ladder and only really turned up for a quarter against us. You can't be that inconsistent against the good sides. If they lose to Sydney they're 2-4 and starting to be a long way back.

 

[Cuzz09]

I still think Saints are wobbly despite being top.

Geel still have like 8 games at GMHBA so they'll make it.

StK, Ess and Adel most vulnerable.

Geel, Port and Rich likely to storm upwards by the bye

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[Cuzz09]

On the go home factor we need to play a lot harder hard ball.

If we draft Reid and he wants to leave after a year or 2 we need to ask for a lot more than some 2nd rounders and bit part players in return.

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[ep2018]

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The positions are certain to change, but I feel like this will be the final Top 8.

Swap Carlton with Geelong (too flakey), Adelaide with Port (crows are a glass cannon team and are still a season away from making finals imo) and Essendon with Freo (even with their forward woes they have too much quality in midfield and defence to miss, reckon they come good soon, Essendon will fall away imo).

 

[Bender_]

Freo (even with their forward woes they have too much quality in midfield and defence to miss, reckon they come good soon...

 

[Keys]

Swap Carlton with Geelong (too flakey), Adelaide with Port (crows are a glass cannon team and are still a season away from making finals imo) and Essendon with Freo (even with their forward woes they have too much quality in midfield and defence to miss, reckon they come good soon, Essendon will fall away imo).

We’re five rounds in and I don’t think there’s any team or teams that have shown themselves to be clearly better than the rest just yet. Every side has had at least one stinker apart from arguably the Saints and Essendon who’s losses were narrow

Injuries, or lack thereof, are going to play an important part in deciding who does well this year

 

[Tugga27]

I still think Saints are wobbly despite being top.

Geel still have like 8 games at GMHBA so they'll make it.

StK, Ess and Adel most vulnerable.

Geel, Port and Rich likely to storm upwards by the bye

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I can't see Richmond making the 8 TBH.

 

[Farang83150]

I wouldn't be so quick to frame Reid as a go home worry, he's a country fella so I imagine he's has his head around the have to leave home and not have mum down the rd thing for quite a while.

 

[the harry]

I wouldn't be so quick to frame Reid as a go home worry, he's a country fella so I imagine he's has his head around the have to leave home and not have mum down the rd thing for quite a while.

And not a coastal part of Vic either

 

[DanWCE]

Which journo ran with the Simon Garlick

Simon Garlick

Age

49

Ht

177cm

Wt

79kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

9.4

4star

HB

4.2

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

1.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

9.6

3star

K

5.2

2star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.0

3star

leaving for AFL House line? Freo have given them a whack in their statement

 

[Cursedsword02]

Which journo ran with the Simon Garlick leaving for AFL House line? Freo have given them a whack in their statement

I'll give you a hint: His name rhymes with "Read the room, b*tch!"

 

[HoneyBadger35]

A rare smart decision for the AFL. Well done.