Oppo Camp Non-Eagles Discussion

[Chief]

Continued in Part 2:

Oppo Camp - Non-Eagles Discussion

Who gives a **** about finals anyway So overrated It’s all about the draft these days

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[Rowan18]

Did laugh at Freo having 5 injuries and calling it a crsis. These plonkers got no idea

I remember those days. Flipping out in 2018 because Darling and Kennedy missed 3 games in a row after the bye.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

A Sydney win puts Freo in 15th.

Normally I hate those Cola bastards but I’m all for it if it means the purples wind up in the bottom four when they were supposedly pushing for top 4 this year.

Except for that it gives Melbourne a top 4 pick, and that's not ideal....

 

[Altum Volantes]

Except for that it gives Melbourne a top 4 pick, and that's not ideal....

They’ll just trade it for another ruckman they don’t need won’t they?

Actually….maybe they want Nic Nat?

 

[FKASC]

I don't think it's a fallacy tbh

'22 - YES - Geelong (Cameron)
'21 - YES - Melbourne (May, Lever, Brown)
'20 - YES - Richmond (Lynch)
'19 - " "
'18 - NO
'17 - YES - Richmond
'16 - YES - Bulldogs (Tom Boyd)
'15 - YES - Hawthorn (Frawley, Lake, Gibson)

I think if you're going to bring in a player to top off a list your best chances are with a KPP.

Who from Richmond in 2017?

Not sure it’s that simple to be honest. Basically every team in the comp will have traded in a KPP at some stage, so of course you can pick out examples in premiership sides like you have above. Bit of correlation/causation action.

But there are just as many examples of KPPs traded in (with hype and expectation) that don’t work out.

Tarrant, Croad, Anthony, Gumby, McCarthy, Lobb, Hogan - just Freo alone provides plenty of examples.

Not denying trades are a key part to a flag push.

 

[Truckosaurus]

Richmond in 2017 already had a triple Coleman medallist playing for them. They didn't need to get another KPF, but it clearly didn't hurt.

If Adelaide had added Pavlich in 2004/2005/2006, they'd have at least another flag to their name. The lack of a KPF has hurt Fremantle's chances post-Pavlich.

That's not to say that we need one, or need one right now. But some teams have benefited from it. It's about assessing your list more than making a blanket statement.

 

[FKASC]

Richmond in 2017 already had a triple Coleman medallist playing for them. They didn't need to get another KPF, but it clearly didn't hurt.

If Adelaide had added Pavlich in 2004/2005/2006, they'd have at least another flag to their name. The lack of a KPF has hurt Fremantle's chances post-Pavlich.

That's not to say that we need one, or need one right now. But some teams have benefited from it. It's about assessing your list more than making a blanket statement.

Blanket statements are more fun to post though.

Lynch didn’t join Richmond until 2019, which is why I queried the supposed YES next to 2017.

If WC added Bontempelli in 2019/2020 we might have another flag to our name.

Nothing flops harder than a failed KPP trade though

 

[Ishmael_]

Who from Richmond in 2017?

Not sure it’s that simple to be honest. Basically every team in the comp will have traded in a KPP at some stage, so of course you can pick out examples in premiership sides like you have above. Bit of correlation/causation action.

But there are just as many examples of KPPs traded in (with hype and expectation) that don’t work out.

Tarrant, Croad, Anthony, Gumby, McCarthy, Lobb, Hogan - just Freo alone provides plenty of examples.

Not denying trades are a key part to a flag push.

Uhhh ruck superstar Nankervis hellllo

But no I was lazy there. I don't think you can count a journeyman ruck as a big KPP acquisition.

I agree re failed acquisitions (although Hogan is really the only big 'proven' acquisition there) but think that's more about the right player and timing a list build.

My point being that if you are going to go after a big fish and spend big to complete a list build it should be a KPP and specifically a key forward or defender - bringing rucks on big money is a mistake.

They allow you to completely change your style of play and are much more valuable structurally than even the best mids.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Cocktails kicking in and the G looking fresh boiiiiii

 

[Cuzz09]

Good ol' Brissy away

Another thing... Comps pretty shit when Syd and Carl are 1 win out of the 8

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[new breed]

Do we want Grundy as ruck support for a few years , surplus at Dee's!!

 

[FKASC]

Cocktails kicking in and the G looking fresh boiiiiii

By cocktails do you mean plastic cups of 3.5% pacific ale from the bar?

 

[amazingjoshy]

No one wins after the bye

 

[southcoast]

No one wins after the bye

But they played us las………

Ooops - I get it now.


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[KERRPOW]

Do we want Grundy as ruck support for a few years , surplus at Dee's!!

We could have two clubs paying 75% of his salary

 

[Happy Mastenator]

We are so far off the level of a brisbane it’s not funny. They are starting to take Melbourne apart after Melbournes hot start.

 

[new breed]

We could have two clubs paying 75% of his salary

Twice the bargain .

 

[KERRPOW]

Melbourne's forward line worse than ours in 05/06

 

[ep2018]

We are so far off the level of a brisbane it’s not funny. They are starting to take Melbourne apart after Melbournes hot start.

Turns out if your spend almost a decade in the bottom 4 you eventually build yourself a good team.

 

[darksquare]

These Brisbane kids are going to be seriously good. Ashcroft, Fletcher, another Ashcroft to come. Have to get a flag out of this somehow.


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[KERRPOW]

Dees are panicking

 

[Cuzz09]

charlie lol Whingie

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[Bender_]

Some serious atmosphere at this game.

What's the snow like in Victoria?

 

[Cuzz09]

Joe Daniher is Brissies Q Stick.

Does a few freakish things at timed but clumsy

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[Bender_]

Ashcroft too busy looking for the handball back to lay a shepherd.

 

[new breed]

Brisbane have a lot of tricks