Oppo Camp Non-Essendon Football Thread XVII

[Mercurial89]

Apparently Toby Greene is a ripping bloke off-field. Sometimes you really can't tell from TV.

I guess it also depends on your values and what you deem to be a good person. I've heard Toby is also prone to driving.

 

[Kong]

No idea on that, the people I know that have met him around the traps have always said he's been a surprisingly good guy in person given the on-field persona.

Yeah I guess neither of us really know. We could both be right; Hodge was a "ripping bloke" that also did some bog ordinary and violent things. Not saying Toby's the same, but again, it depends on who you ask and what you see.

 

[Darealrath]

Yeah I guess neither of us really know. We could both be right; Hodge was a "ripping bloke" that also did some bog ordinary and violent things. Not saying Toby's the same, but again, it depends on who you ask and what you see.

You seem to have an aversion to outwardly confident, stereotypically masculine types? Not having a go but my experience is they are no more or less likely to do bad things in their private life, and I think it's unfair to allude so - as you say we don't know.

 

[Nicholas61]

Yeah I guess neither of us really know. We could both be right; Hodge was a "ripping bloke" that also did some bog ordinary and violent things. Not saying Toby's the same, but again, it depends on who you ask and what you see.

I didn't like his violence but Hodge could cop it back - Menegola got him a ripper. After the match Hodge went and shook his hand.

 

[Kong]

I didn't like his violence but Hodge could cop it back - Menegola got him a ripper. After the match Hodge went and shook his hand.

Sorry I was also referring to off field. I knew plenty of people that knew him around Colac and Geelong, he was notorious for picking fights at the pubs, even during his playing days.

 

[Kong]

You seem to have an aversion to outwardly confident, stereotypically masculine types? Not having a go but my experience is they are no more or less likely to do bad things in their private life, and I think it's unfair to allude so - as you say we don't know.

Not exactly, though I get that it may have come across that way.

In my life experience, and in studies on domestic violence, violent offenders often have a combination of:

Entitlement
Anger (either outward or internalised)
Hyper masculinity
Lack of consideration for others
Heightened confidence and/or No concern of repercussions

So I don't necessarily think being masculine makes you a bad person. Dyson Heppell is both masculine and confident, but appears to be selfless, caring of others, and without an angry bone in his body (insert jokes about his captaincy here).

By contrast some of the more violent people aren't outwardly confident at all, but there's a recklessness and sense of entitlement that escalates.

It's when I see people with one, two or more of those traits that my radar goes up.

 

[Nicholas61]

Sorry I was also referring to off field. I knew plenty of people that knew him around Colac and Geelong, he was notorious for picking fights at the pubs, even during his playing days.

I remember he got assaulted by someone off field in his early Hawthorn days. I think his girlfriend at the time ended up in hospital from the incident.

 

[bombreys]

No idea on that, the people I know that have met him around the traps have always said he's been a surprisingly good guy in person given the on-field persona.

A total guess without anything to back it up, but I get the feeling he might just turn in to a bit of a knob when he’s had a few.

 

[fairbump_playon]

I saw Chritian Petracca at a grocery store in Melbourne yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.
He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”
I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.

I had the same thing happen but he walked out with pork ribs stuffed up his shirt

 

[Darealrath]

Not exactly, though I get that it may have come across that way.

In my life experience, and in studies on domestic violence, violent offenders often have a combination of:

Entitlement
Anger (either outward or internalised)
Hyper masculinity
Lack of consideration for others
Heightened confidence and/or No concern of repercussions

So I don't necessarily think being masculine makes you a bad person. Dyson Heppell is both masculine and confident, but appears to be selfless, caring of others, and without an angry bone in his body (insert jokes about his captaincy here).

By contrast some of the more violent people aren't outwardly confident at all, but there's a recklessness and sense of entitlement that escalates.

It's when I see people with one, two or more of those traits that my radar goes up.

Fair enough. I've always thought it was the more insecure types combined with those other traits that are the ones to worry about re domestic violence. The type that are putting on a show of being confident but really aren't and can't handle feeling challenged or dealing with their inadequacy.

Those who are comfortable in their own skins, whether that's stereotypically masculine or nerdy or whatever I'd think are less likely to be so but it's obviously a combination of factors, personalty wise and cultural. Petracca has always struck me as being the naturally confident type.

 

[Kong]

I guess it also depends on your values and what you deem to be a good person. I've heard Toby is also prone to driving.

Monster.

 

[jmoo wan]

the thing with Petracca that i’ve never really liked is he has two Cs in his name. in my experience one is usually too many, so why have 2?

 

[Schnitzengruben]

the thing with Petracca that i’ve never really liked is he has two Cs in his name. in my experience one is usually too many, so why have 2?

Totally agree Jmo Wan

 

[ant555]

Sorry I was also referring to off field. I knew plenty of people that knew him around Colac and Geelong, he was notorious for picking fights at the pubs, even during his playing days.

So much so that his coach basically said pull your head in or you will be done and that was not really early in his career.

 

[Zach Package]

Ross Lyon talking about how he wants some ‘sizzle’ in St. Kilda’s game style shows a level of lack of self awareness hitherto unseen

 

[Happyskeret]

Ross Lyon talking about how he wants some ‘sizzle’ in St. Kilda’s game style shows a level of lack of self awareness hitherto unseen

Sizzling Pou!

 

[Zach Package]

Sizzling Pou!

‘We want our footy to feel the way you feel the morning after visiting your local Indian restaurant’

 

[Call Me Cake]

So I take it we're all barracking for GWS this weekend?

 

[Old Campaigner]

I saw Chritian Petracca at a grocery store in Melbourne yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.
He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”
I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.

And everyone on the bus stood up and clapped

 

[Dave]

Vibing

 

[jannissary]

I saw Chritian Petracca at a grocery store in Melbourne yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.
He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”
I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.

all time classic this one

 

[Vindicater]

I hope Dusty kicks five in his 300th.

 

[joey_jo_jo]

Geez would love for zach to be protected by the umps like neale is tonight. What a joke, he is getting an armchair ride from the umps.

 

[ghostdog]

Go Saints!

 

[Blind Turn]

We’ve got to change the 50m penalty. Make it 25m for minor discretions. Seriously. Handing teams goals for subjective umpiring is a ****ing disgrace.