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[One_Wing]

Family separations and pregnancy termination: Hawthorn racism review reveals shock allegations against former coaches

Alastair Clarkson and Chris Fagan are named in a Hawthorn review into how First Nations players were treated during Clarkson's time at the helm of the Hawks. Warning — this story contains details of self-harm, pregnancy loss, and intergenerational trauma for Indigenous people.

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What the ****

 

[DragoDelph]

Those named, and the afl, declined to comment.

Does this extend past the indigenous players? (They we’re the only ones interviewed as part of this report)

Simpson, beveridge, ratten and others all potentially at the club during this period.

The Collingwood report didn’t blow up the comp like it should have, maybe this will.

 

[BStaff17]

The Hawthorn story has reached the breakfast sports show in Sydney that's how massive & shocking it is.

In disbelief what I heard on the radio in regards to the allegations.

 

[Steinfreo]

It's not that surprising. I just hope we don't have any of these types at our club.

 

[Taylor]

The Collingwood report didn’t blow up the comp like it should have, maybe this will.

I won't be holding my breath. The AFL community tends to turn a blind eye to everything when there is success.

 

[Kram]

Griff mate I'll hold no I'll feelings towards you if you want to change your mind.

 

[largebus]

It was well known the club historically avoided drafting aboriginal players but wow, that's some disturbing shit.
Could be the end of two senior coaches careers.

 

[WaywardSonSon]

I told you he is a POS

 

[s_wd6]

"Clarkson just leaned over me and demanded that I needed to get rid of my unborn child and my partner. I was then manipulated and convinced to remove my SIM card from my phone, so there was no further contact between my family and me. They told me I’d be living with one of the other coaches from that night onwards.

He felt he had no choice. "He told me to kill my unborn kid."

Sickening.

 

[Spirit Level]

Absolutely ****ed, what an absolute piece of shit.

He's gone and should never be allowed to return to the game

 

[WaywardSonSon]

Absolutely ****ed, what an absolute piece of s**t.

He's gone and should never be allowed to return to the game

Why not have a fire sale and dispose of f*ckstain Fagan too?!

 

[Ge3ks]

Far out this is serious. What does this mean for Clarkson's appointment at North Melbourne? The NMFC would be devastated by these revelations.

 

[One_Wing]

Far out this is serious. What does this mean for Clarkson's appointment at North Melbourne? The NMFC would be devastated by these revelations.

Clarkson has been hailed as a coaching Messiah for a while now. His taint is all over the game. JL worked under Simpson who worked under Clarkson...

The AFL were desperate for him to stay in the game so they gave him all kinds of glamor positions, going to the US for 'fact finding' and was in charge of the AFL look into Tasmania team.

 

[Descent]

Be prepared to hear this f***king stupid sentence over and over again: “but [insert name of an indigenous player] is close with Clarkson”

Joke of a club. If that POS Jeff Kennett is your president in this day and age, you should expect an awful culture.

 

[Madas]

Far out this is serious. What does this mean for Clarkson's appointment at North Melbourne? The NMFC would be devastated by these revelations.

Watch it all get swept under the carpet and spun into a feel good story about how Hawthorn were just trying to help young indigenous men become better individuals .

I could basically write the press release myself, it will be the same old crap trotted out again…….
Something,something….committed to player welfare………deep connections with the Indigenous community……… thought we were doing the right thing ………..deeply sorry for our actions .

 

[Patchterrier]

Far out this is serious. What does this mean for Clarkson's appointment at North Melbourne? The NMFC would be devastated by these revelations.

I genuinely can not believe what I've just read. This is an absolute disgrace and am thinking of the families that have been treated with such disdain and disrespect. I am so sorry for what you have had to experience.

Noting that individuals of course have the right of reply, rumours have been rife for a long time about Clarksons extremely poor behaviour and why a 4 time premiership coach was paid nearly a million dollars to not turn up (he is still on the payroll at Hawks). If substantiated, this is beyond bad behaviour, this is calculated coercive manipulation and likely illegal.

If the North Melbourne board have either not done their due diligence in the appropriate background checks, or worse have done it and chased him anyway, then they should be held accountable on his appointment which should now be considered untenable.

I can't imagine how our indigenous men and women are feeling reading these reports. We have no place for racism in our proud club and have actively campaigned against it over many years - we need to again make a stand and an immediate review of Clarksons appointment is the number one priority.

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[noise36]

Now we know why Fagan gives off a vibe he kicks puppies off camera when things are not going his way.

 

[Stinky Lomax]

I genuinely can not believe what I've just read. This is an absolute disgrace and am thinking of the families that have been treated with such disdain and disrespect. I am so sorry for what you have had to experience.

Noting that individuals of course have the right of reply, rumours have been rife for a long time about Clarksons extremely poor behaviour and why a 4 time premiership coach was paid nearly a million dollars to not turn up (he is still on the payroll at Hawks). If substantiated, this is beyond bad behaviour, this is calculated coercive manipulation and likely illegal.

If the North Melbourne board have either not done their due diligence in the appropriate background checks, or worse have done it and chased him anyway, then they should be held accountable on his appointment which should now be considered untenable.

I can't imagine how our indigenous men and women are feeling reading these reports. We have no place for racism in our proud club and have actively campaigned against it over many years - we need to again make a stand and an immediate review of Clarksons appointment is the number one priority.

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Unfortunately at this stage it appears they knew of the report prior to employing Clarkson.
So many questions, Buddy? Brad Hill? I’m intrigued into what they knew & whether it was part of their decision to leave. This is unbelievable & Jeff Kennett would be right in the middle of this too.
Lachie Neale, love to know what he’s thinking?

 

[Ge3ks]

Well said Patch'.

It's such a horrible story. So many ramifications. Makes it hard to consider normal footy stuff now. Trades, delistings, draft picks...the Grand Final.

A lot to play out here. What a nightmare. It's all so gross. Devastated for the directly affected players and their families.

 

[Patchterrier]

Unfortunately at this stage it appears they knew of the report prior to employing Clarkson.
So many questions, Buddy? Brad Hill? I’m intrigued into what they knew & whether it was part of their decision to leave. This is unbelievable & Jeff Kennett would be right in the middle of this too.
Lachie Neale, love to know what he’s thinking?

Just shocking. Honestly can't believe the reports this morning.

If the Board knew, they must be held accountable. The club needs to make a statement today.

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[Piggy Smalls]

That was tough to read. These are extremely serious allegations, I can’t see how anyone comes out of this with their career intact if proven to be true.

 

[Randomizor]

Just pure evil

 

[Square Peg]

Watch it all get swept under the carpet and spun into a feel good story about how Hawthorn were just trying to help young indigenous men become better individuals .

I could basically write the press release myself, it will be the same old crap trotted out again…….
Something,something….committed to player welfare………deep connections with the Indigenous community……… thought we were doing the right thing ………..deeply sorry for our actions .

This.
We all know how the AFL operates.
Drip with unctuous corporate symbolism like indigenous round and dreamtime, but deny and spin doctor away anything corrupt, criminal or immoral occurring that threatens their image

 

[MadEyeEmmy]

Honestly this horrible racist stuff has happened now at Adelaide (the training camp), Collingwood (the do better report) and now Hawthorn being the worst one. It really worries me to think about the things we don’t know about.

 

[Stinky Lomax]

Hodge, how much did he really know?

Former Hawks captain Hodge comments on stunning Hawthorn allegations

The former captain has spoken on the matter.

www.sen.com.au