Stand by!Ha, may have gone a bit overboard, just read like complete bullshit
I can’t think of a bigger failure of a season
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Stand by!Ha, may have gone a bit overboard, just read like complete bullshit
I can’t think of a bigger failure of a season
no-one has ever uttered these words in July before. it was in surprisingly good nick yesterday, but it wasn't looking great todaythe Surrey Park ground is in great condition
I can confirm Justin will remain as coach. As I stated earlier, they win those close games and it's a different story.Yeah that would be the 4th coach in 4 years if he is replaced which is never a good look. There isn't much patience around clubs currently regarding their coaches. We have seen the same with The Basin this year and Wantirna South last year replacing the coach but not improving at all.
I was talking to him after the game and didn't get the impression that he was thinking that way.Heard today East Burwood are looking to replace their coach.
Easy to say when you have way more money than everyone else.Gislingham believes clubs should be able to sign marquee players and pay them outside the salary cap.
“I think it would make the league stronger. I think the Eastern league is being left behind by the Essendon league and the Northern league,’’ he said.
“We’ve got to try to get better players into the competition, which other leagues seem to be able to do at the drop of a hat.
“I think a club should be able to go outside and have a look around and bring in someone as a marquee player who gets paid outside the cap. Let the clubs pay whatever they can afford.
And for years have done deals to get around the salary cap and poached juniors from clubs and claimed them as their own...Easy to say when you have way more money than everyone else.![]()
****in Vermont… w***ers… you can’t make this stuff up
Oh and the Balwyn powerbroker agrees!
Is it time for a marquee player allowance in local football?
In the case of the Eastern league, yes, according to Vermont great Craig Gislingham.
The 10-time premiership Eagle is worried about the standard of Eastern’s Premier division, saying it has declined sharply in the past two years as clubs operate on reduced salary caps.
This year clubs in the top tier of metropolitan leagues can pay $120,000, which is tipped to increase to $125,000 in 2025.
The Eastern, Northern, Southern, Essendon District and Western Region competitions all had their player-payments ceilings set at $100,000 as they came out of Covid in 2021.
Eastern had been at $200,000.
Gislingham said it appeared the EFNL clubs were playing by the rules, but it had affected the quality of a competition once commonly regarded as the strongest in the metropolitan area.
He said the reduction in the cap equated to the loss of three or four top-drawer players for each team.
Gislingham believes clubs should be able to sign marquee players and pay them outside the salary cap.
“I think it would make the league stronger. I think the Eastern league is being left behind by the Essendon league and the Northern league,’’ he said.
“We’ve got to try to get better players into the competition, which other leagues seem to be able to do at the drop of a hat.
“I think a club should be able to go outside and have a look around and bring in someone as a marquee player who gets paid outside the cap. Let the clubs pay whatever they can afford. If you want to go out and get a really good one, go out and do it. If you can pay it, you can pay it. I think it’s a great idea to promote the league and put the league back up there again.’’
Gislingham said he had spoken to Eastern boss Jy Bond about the issue.
He said the subject also came up when he bumped into Balwyn powerbroker Richard Wilson, who has also expressed alarm at the standard of Eastern Premier.
That was the one mentioned.Dont they own the Lilydale International ?
They don't call him 'Grislingham' for nothing! He was a sook on the field when things went against him and now moaning because his club cannot wrought the system any more.The reduction in cap - $100k - equates to “three or four quality players” according to him.
Good to know their “quality players” are on around $2k per week.
There is a very interesting survey the Whitehorse Council had until Wed on their proposed Gambling Policy.
The outline follows:
We invited feedback on our Draft Gambling Harm Minimisation Policy.
We reviewed our existing policy and proposed changes based on the latest research, evidence and community feedback.
Key proposed changes include:
Based on the state average, we estimate more than 97,000 adults in Whitehorse may engage in gambling each year.
- expanding the policy beyond pokie machines to include online gambling and sports betting
- moving towards a ‘public health approach’ that aims to prevent and reduce gambling harm
- more education and awareness raising
- banning Council-run events in gaming venues
- not funding community groups and organisations that own or operate pokies
- prohibiting gambling and the promotion of gambling activities at Council-owned or managed land and buildings.
Over $153,000 was spent each day on pokies in Whitehorse in the last financial year. This was more than $56 million across the year.
When I filled it in, it all seemed fine. I got to the Section of where they stated that the Council would not accept monetary donations from any business or clubs. That seemed OK to me at that point, but the next Section changed my mind. It stated that any club could directly contribute to the funding for any renovations or new buildings that the club used.
This led to my input to the survey:
Allowing clubs that have gaming machines to contribute towards investment in the redevelopment of buildings they lease from the Council is just another form of accepting financial contributions from the gambling industry. It is a disguise that the council is using to get money from gambling. I understand that Council may see this as a means to reduce their own expenditure and is of benefit to the community. This view is incorrect, it does not benefit the community. The only one to benefit, is the club using money obtained from gambling.
All the other clubs in the competition are put at a disadvantage because they (for whatever reasons) do not have gaming machines and do not contribute to gambling harm. Furthermore, it encourages the club to continue their involvement with gaming machines and allows them to ignore any gambling harm caused by their gaming machines in other suburbs. Neither should the council ignore that harm.
In your Draft Gambling Harm Minimisation Policy you have identified gaming venues within Whitehorse, but you haven't identified any clubs (sporting or otherwise) within Whitehorse that have gaming machines located outside Whitehorse. This is an equally important issue. It's no good minimising gambling harm in Whitehorse at the expense of the harm caused in other suburbs. How many clubs are there and who are they? Everyone in Whitehorse is entitled to know and should be informed.
It would be better to allow donations towards projects that everyone in Whitehorse can access and enjoy rather than allow clubs to contribute towards projects that only their members enjoy.
PS.
I was told a while ago by a Lilydale resident that Vermont has purchased another business in Lilydale. I have no idea if this is true, perhaps someone can confirm or deny the rumour?
Points again. Gets boring after a while.
By now surely it’s acknowledged the teams with higher points tend to be teams struggling?
Therefore reducing points would hurt those that are already struggling and is clearly not the answer.
Obviously Vermont have earned the reputation but I'd be surprised if any of the other 5 teams in the top 6 of u17.5 A Grade weren't also doing it. It's a plague and it's not restricted to footy either, have heard rumours around local cricket where 15/16yos are receiving unsolicited messages from other clubs trying to recruit them.And I think the definition of a home player needs a little tweaking to further discourage junior recruiting. Vermont are the main vultures in this area at around the Under 14/15 mark, and these kids shouldn’t end up 1 pointers for Vermont when they hit 18yo. I’m not sure of the exact solution - perhaps it’s as simple as the first club you qualify for (three seasons / 40 games) is the only one you’re a home player for.
It’s unfortunate that’s required but that’s what happens when you have a Vermont constantly recruiting junior players.
Baffles me when some are suggesting radical change.I’d hold off on bigger changes. Points and salary cap aren’t perfect but have had / are having the desired effect.
Maybe a few minor changes
I think the total points figure could probably come down a few points. The only clubs that are consistently hitting it are the likes of Doncaster East and Vermont and that’s not because they don’t have juniors, it’s because they buy external players - it’s what the system is designed to limit.
And I think the definition of a home player needs a little tweaking to further discourage junior recruiting. Vermont are the main vultures in this area at around the Under 14/15 mark, and these kids shouldn’t end up 1 pointers for Vermont when they hit 18yo. I’m not sure of the exact solution - perhaps it’s as simple as the first club you qualify for (three seasons / 40 games) is the only one you’re a home player for.
It’s unfortunate that’s required but that’s what happens when you have a Vermont constantly recruiting junior players.
No current season stats available
Some strange times in Premier Div. Noble Park clearly struggling for numbers, put 18 players (incl retired blokes) out in the reserves.
They knock over Norwood’s 16 players 35.16.226 to 0.1.1.
Noble only win the seniors by 109 points.
40 player points vs 37 points suggests there’s not much home growing going on.
It’s hard to believe some of these “Premier Division” clubs are unable to attract decent numbers.