gostk86
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lol I got the txt on thursday that tomorrow 6 players will be banned, it is the biggest load of crap, the investigation is still going and at present nothing has been found to be involving players....
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NRL Match Fixing. Can it happen in AFL?
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lol I got the txt on thursday that tomorrow 6 players will be banned, it is the biggest load of crap, the investigation is still going and at present nothing has been found to be involving players....
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The footage clearly shows Aaron Payne (captain) pointing at the post for the two but Anthony Watts had already taken the quick tap and they scored from the resulting play. Yes the plunge did lose, I guess it shows that not all the players were in on it. Now that their investigating the game many that had bets on the cowboys penalty goal want their losing bets reimbursed.
It does happen in AFL and on a bigger scale than most people think. I've heard of numerous instances and have been told. I'm not going to say too much as nobody on here appreciates any inside information and just hammers people who give it. My track record is pretty good (see ablett going to GC even though it was a given there was a still slight chance he would stay, saying the indigenous players at Richmond imploding in the pre-season) but if you want to see an example of match fixing watch the Saints vs Geelong game. Watch the select few actions of Kelly and Mackie. Also see the Brisbane Carlton game late last year at the Gabba. It can happen in a variety of ways, either getting to a few players and/or the umpires and/or the coaches. They are on low salaries compared to other sports and hence are easily tempted. Not all AFL players are angels of purity who wont take payments to fix sport. Just like the Police Force isn't full of loyal trustworthy officers who dont accept bribes to do things.
To think it is impossible to fix AFL is a terrible statement. For example you can get to players who like to run off the HB like Kelly and Mackie and get them to turn it over or kick it to a contest which happened several times that night and bam the ball is turned over in the middle and a goal occurs. This occuring multiple times can give the opposition team momentum and lead to more goals. The players can then ease off the turnovers once the other team gets ahead then when the game gets close again do it again.
You can choose to take in what I said or everyone can just stick their heads in the sand and pretend out sport is a code of purity and integrity but the fact is gambling is getting bigger than ever. People with lots of money want to gamble more than ever, and some rich people love power and being able to flex it. I could go on but until gambling is stopped there is no true integrity in sport. Fixing occurs in every single code of sport that attracts interest. From horse racing, to boxing, to NRL, to Cricket, to everything. Dont be fools people.
To think it is impossible to fix AFL is a terrible statement. For example you can get to players who like to run off the HB like Kelly and Mackie and get them to turn it over or kick it to a contest which happened several times that night and bam the ball is turned over in the middle and a goal occurs. This occuring multiple times can give the opposition team momentum and lead to more goals. The players can then ease off the turnovers once the other team gets ahead then when the game gets close again do it again.
You can choose to take in what I said or everyone can just stick their heads in the sand and pretend out sport is a code of purity and integrity but the fact is gambling is getting bigger than ever. People with lots of money want to gamble more than ever, and some rich people love power and being able to flex it. I could go on but until gambling is stopped there is no true integrity in sport. Fixing occurs in every single code of sport that attracts interest. From horse racing, to boxing, to NRL, to Cricket, to everything. Dont be fools people.
Now you are just taking it too far into the realms of implausibility
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I dont think its impossible to fix a match, but spot fixing would be damn near impossible.
First goal scorer relies on more than a deliberate free kick to be paid, unless that free kick is a ruck/centre bounce infringement and a 50m penalty.
First goal scorer relies on more than a deliberate free kick to be paid, unless that free kick is a ruck/centre bounce infringement and a 50m penalty.
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Yep cant think of any bet that a single player could guarantee a result in.
you could do 1st score to a team i guess. But cant be sure it will be a goal.
The best i could think of is a defender could give away a free to a certain player for 1st goal but even then that player might not be in goal range or line up where they are supposed to or could just missed from 25 out.
I guess if u had a forward and a defender playing on each other they could get the 1st goal, just have the defender make high contact with the forward before the bounce, who is 5 m out.
But yeh it would be hard to do in afl compared to other sports where u have more control of things.
I'm not going to agree or disagree with you. And I'm not going to suggest you are incorrect either, but naming the players specifically like this, that's a bad idea.
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What, you've never seen a free kick paid in the goal square before the first bounce after a wrestle and high contact is made?
Will I get carded if I list the players? Poking around the web produces a list of names which support what I've been told, I suggest you guys do the same.
According to my source four players are already done and will be announced after the Grand Final. Few more are under investigation. Bank accounts and video footage are damning. I really doubt it is a troll attempt because the story is coming from absolutely everywhere. A bunch of people can't spring a leak this size out of nothing; where there's smoke there's fire.
According to my source four players are already done and will be announced after the Grand Final. Few more are under investigation. Bank accounts and video footage are damning. I really doubt it is a troll attempt because the story is coming from absolutely everywhere. A bunch of people can't spring a leak this size out of nothing; where there's smoke there's fire.
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Half of Brisbane and Sydney have received the text re the NRL. Geez I live in London and I got it.
Monday after the NRL GF is reportedly when the announcements will be made (according to the text). I guess we wait and see if it occurs. In Sunday's SMH one journo did say in his column that the text is crap and lawyers are looking into the source.
Monday after the NRL GF is reportedly when the announcements will be made (according to the text). I guess we wait and see if it occurs. In Sunday's SMH one journo did say in his column that the text is crap and lawyers are looking into the source.
I don't know... http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/socie...nd-furious-a-league-apart-20101003-162kf.html
Certain former players keep popping up if you ask me...
Certain former players keep popping up if you ask me...
The_Reaper
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Done.
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With the way umpires currently interpret rules changing on a a weekly basis?
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Nah the AFL is squaeky clean, can never happen in this comp, we have no off field issues, no drug taking , no illegal bets, no players owing squillions to bookies.
It cant happen we are AFL.
A spot-fix doesn't necessary have to be a 'guaranteed outcome'. These guys place hundreds of bets around the world. If, via fixing, they can get a bet into position where it is more likely to come off than the actual odds offered, that is a good bet.
Example on Saturday - Goldsack. i guess all of us thought he would either a) start on the bench or b) start in the backline. He was probably 100-1 to kick the first goal. But if you are on the match committee and could put him on the ground playing in the forward line, he is probably a 20-1 chance. It's not a certainty, but if you offered me 100-1 odds on a 20-1 chance, I'll take that bet every day of the week.
All the gamblers are looking for is an edge - and the real pros work that way, rather than the one big hit that attracts all the attention. They make multiple bets - but only bet when the odds are in their favor.
There have been too many movies with the card cheat having 4 aces up his sleeve. That's unrealistic. Real professional cheats do very small things that change the odds in their favor from 50-50 to 51-49. And that's enough to make a whole lot of money if handled right - with no suspicion.
Example on Saturday - Goldsack. i guess all of us thought he would either a) start on the bench or b) start in the backline. He was probably 100-1 to kick the first goal. But if you are on the match committee and could put him on the ground playing in the forward line, he is probably a 20-1 chance. It's not a certainty, but if you offered me 100-1 odds on a 20-1 chance, I'll take that bet every day of the week.
All the gamblers are looking for is an edge - and the real pros work that way, rather than the one big hit that attracts all the attention. They make multiple bets - but only bet when the odds are in their favor.
There have been too many movies with the card cheat having 4 aces up his sleeve. That's unrealistic. Real professional cheats do very small things that change the odds in their favor from 50-50 to 51-49. And that's enough to make a whole lot of money if handled right - with no suspicion.
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Youre a poker player by the sounds of that, and thats exactly how it works, but not in the whiter than white AFL
i dont think anyone realistically says NEVER, but its just harder in AFL.
therefore your PROS would likely go ELSEWHERE and chase outcomes that are MORE likely than those possible in AFL.
therefore your PROS would likely go ELSEWHERE and chase outcomes that are MORE likely than those possible in AFL.
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