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Ask him...they wouldnt have a clue. Stu might, but very doubtful.

Just to break it down for you.

Commitee- administration, finances, problem solving,

Coach - training, match day, running of players. Our match commitee (we dont really have as stu will ask an opinion when needed, we do trust him very much as it is his job) is our three coaches plus nick.

We dont involve the coach or anyone else in the running of the club because ultimately the coach is there to coach and play in stuarts circumstance. As for recruiting Stuart spoke to who he thought was valuable then approached commitee about what is needed to be done.

Sounds like a fairly good model for a club. Would be a lot easier for someone to coach in this environment, when there only concern is to actually coach and play, and not having to raise sponsorship money, negotiate contracts with each player, organise social functions, organise major fundraisers/raffles and basically run the club day to day, which the committee should be doing.

Heyfield is to be applauded, and as you have previously stated, they have been successful using this model, and should continue along like this. I am not having a backhanded swipe at Heyfield, I am honestly saying that if clubs are capable of having this type of assistance available to them, then this will help the club to continue to grow, develop and be successful.

On the contrary, when you are senior coach, at a club without a support network like this, and you are required to do all those things listed above, which both you, I and everyone else all recognise this should not be the responsibility of the senior coach, it is tough to have to listen to knockers having a go at you, when you have attempted to do all these things, and probably have been the main resistance between the club going into recess and surviving.
 
I think the overall performance of the club in the period that Hendo has been there is vindication of having a professionally appointed coach who aspires to do the job and fully immerse himself in the improvement of not only the immediate future, but also the long term future of the club.

I'm not saying that Gill didn't care about the club, however, he is very Stratford oriented, ie. immediate past sporting wise is only with Stratford, both football and cricket. His ability to recruit was heavily restricted due to this fact, as well as the late appointment, which in defence of Simon, he only took on due to the club seeking him out, rather than him covetting the job.

However, for anyone that has been involved with both, I think it is clear to say the Hendo's recruitment networks, organisation of training, organisation of sponsorship, assistance with filling all club sides (including seconds, thirds and netball teams), game plan and player management skills are all superior to Gills, and without Hendo's work in the past 2 seasons, the club may well not have had a side in the near future.

I am not attempting to attack Gill, however, as I stated, when the club was unable to externally recruit a coach, they went to him to assist them for a season until they were able to fill the position in a more permanent capacity. For that year, Gill did his best to retain players, make sure the best available were on the park, and make sure the club was an enjoyable place to be. There was no forward planning, just worry about getting by day to day, which is probably all the club was capable of at that time, due to not having a coach who was capable of progressing the whole club.

I think anyone that has a half an interset or awareness of where stratford was would be very appreciative of the amount of work Hendo has put in. The hardest thing for the next coach imo will be retaining them players and getting the ones like a ben channing keen to play and work hard. Stratford certainly with a full side have enough players to be succesful imo.
 
Ok, IMO i would noy be detailing player payments and who is on what...but thats the way i have been brought up.

I base this opinion on how i have seen things turn sour in the past and you and i know of a recent happening where commitee members have gone out and disturbed the playing group by obtaining infomation on a way the club wants/may go. I just think there are people who are on commitees that sometimes dont need to know things as they may be making up the numbers.

If i was a paid player i wouldnt want a variety of people wanting to know what i was on.

But thats me.

It's not a variety of people, it is the president, treasurer, coach and myself. As far as I am aware, no one else knows.
 

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No ducking and weaving.

The train hasnt made a comment about Simon Williams and the fact if the clubs biggest problem is budget restraints in getting good footballers that they may have been better served by keeping there money and having a big go. Still hasnt said sorry for calling me an idiot for guessing what is getting paid either...

Some people go wild over what i say...thats hot


Funny about the bait!!!!
My opinion on this is has been said before. The Stratford Football Club needs a GUN playing coach. Something I or Gill can not offer. I understand that you are trying to get me to make a negative pass at Gill but that would never happen as he is a past coach of the club in 2 different grades, premireship player at the club, well respected current senior player who loves his footy club. Is liked by 99% of people at the club. I couldn't be more thankful for the work Gill did for our club as without him there may not be a club. I don't make a habit of shit canning current day players especially those who i believe will be a life member if he already isn't.
 
i would love to know what Nuggett would do to make the Startty football club better. he has loads of experience in building struggling clubs. In fact every time he has been at a struggling he has left?
maffra CC?
Wurruk CC?
Sale FC?
Stratford FC?
hahahha!

I am not sure if he is qualified to make opinions on Stratfords rebuilding as i am sure he wouldn't have a clue on coaching a club with limited Commitee members, voulenteers, players, divided opinion on what league they should play in, limited ability to raise funds, people picking and choosing when to play, people working behind peoples back.
It is a credit to him though that he is NOW involved in 2 STRONG clubs and he has coached at these 2 clubs but not sure on how he would do things if he actually had to be the main man at the club???
haha

F*** off hendo. I played at sale as an 8 year old, wurruk as a 10 year old then been to stratford since then because we moved. I played three years at maffra (because i wanted to play a grade and i thought i wouldnt get a game at stratford) when we (maffra) finished second last i joined the commitee and helped bring A Burgiel to the club.
We made the grand final too when i left and probably would have won (sorry stu you will think different) if Burgs had not left for his honeymoon as he made 140 the week before.

I left Sale FC who had finished third that year to play at stratford who finished last, I then moved to Heyfield because my partner became pregnant and she was secretary. I thought this was fairly logical choice.

As for not knowing how to handle hard times most of the year in the thirds I have struggled to have 14 players, i have had to my do my running because all the parents that attend do the time keeping, run water. On a thursday until saturday probably make 20 phone calls asking boys if they will play and clubs to lend players, tell of our situation, I cart the boys to footy and i go over mondays, tuesdays (meetings) and thursdays to train them i dont get any monetyfor this and probably have spent 1000 dollars on the footy club this year.

So dont go questioning my integrity as a person you red headed fat f **wit.
 
It's not a variety of people, it is the president, treasurer, coach and myself. As far as I am aware, no one else knows.

From your earlier comments you said match commitee and certain members of commitee, i assumed that meant more than four. Sorry
 
As for not knowing how to handle hard times most of the year in the thirds I have struggled to have 14 players, i have had to my do my running because all the parents that attend do the time keeping, run water. On a thursday until saturday probably make 20 phone calls asking boys if they will play, i cart them to footy and i go over mondays, tuesdays (meetings) and thursdays to train them i dont get any monetyfor this and probably have spent 1000 dollars on the footy club this year.
Sounds a bit like the Stratty seniors, you guys should probably be sympathising with each other, and having a go at the people who aren't helping out, rather than having a go at each other!!

I hope we are all friends after all this, living out at Wurruk, no one comes to visit me as it is, I would hate to think that I am going to have any less because of these rifts going on in Bigfooty. Haha!!
 
After that comment before I wont be talking to Luke Henderson any time soon.

Completly lost my respect having a go at me like that.
 
WOW - interesting...WOW Johnny Mayhem is a toad, I would love to come to toadville and have Mayhem hospitality heaped unpon me...just never been invited..also didn't think you had a home you never seem to be there. The most social man I know..
 
Was there last saturday night, renamed east side with the bad boys that were present. Very good hospitality.
 
WOW - interesting...WOW Johnny Mayhem is a toad, I would love to come to toadville and have Mayhem hospitality heaped unpon me...just never been invited..also didn't think you had a home you never seem to be there. The most social man I know..

Some of the best Sunday sessions in recent history have occurred at my new crib out at Toadville. Always more than happy to host local sporting legends, however, I am not sure if you are ready to witness the antics of Occy, Chimpa, Lighty and Lewy in full flight. It is an experience you need to really prepare yourself for.

Sounds like you and I will be having to host a mediation session between Nugget and Hendo in the near future, you might get the chance to visit Toadville soon.
 
The Red Head and The Blonde With Waves are going hammer and tongs at the moment. 2 very passionate lads flexing there biceps...great stuff

Nothing would surprise me Mayhem...5 footy trips to Indonesia under my belt, with some blokes that would make Lighty and lads look like alterboys.
 

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F*** off hendo. I played at sale as an 8 year old, wurruk as a 10 year old then been to stratford since then because we moved. I played three years at maffra (because i wanted to play a grade and i thought i wouldnt get a game at stratford) when we (maffra) finished second last i joined the commitee and helped bring A Burgiel to the club.
We made the grand final too when i left and probably would have won (sorry stu you will think different) if Burgs had not left for his honeymoon as he made 140 the week before.

I left Sale FC who had finished third that year to play at stratford who finished last, I then moved to Heyfield because my partner became pregnant and she was secretary. I thought this was fairly logical choice.

As for not knowing how to handle hard times most of the year in the thirds I have struggled to have 14 players, i have had to my do my running because all the parents that attend do the time keeping, run water. On a thursday until saturday probably make 20 phone calls asking boys if they will play and clubs to lend players, tell of our situation, I cart the boys to footy and i go over mondays, tuesdays (meetings) and thursdays to train them i dont get any monetyfor this and probably have spent 1000 dollars on the footy club this year.

So dont go questioning my integrity as a person you red headed fat f **wit.


Nuggett my boy!
It was only a dig similar to the one sthat you and others have fired at me since April. You never should have to prove how much you are trying to make things happen just as i shouldn't have to justify the reasons why i coached Stratford.
The digs at clubs were tounge in cheek and similar to those you have thrown at me about why i changed cricket clubs. The footy was just to show some of the shit been thrown at me.

facts are -
Heyfield thirds are very successful this season as you have three regulars playing senior football in the best side. other sides (stratford) have said stuff senior, we want to win a flag. This has prob cost myself 3 wins this year and all the opinions on my coaching ability would not be as bad if Stratty had won 6 games.
It was never a dig at your intgrity and even if it was who cares as you are doing what you think is right for you, your family. Just i have. No one knows the work people do and at the end of the day if you enjoy what you do who cares.
Read back at all the opinions you and others have thrown at me and my ability and clubs where i am at. I am proud of what i have done in my 2 years at Stratty, i do have regrets that it hasn't worked as fast i hoped it would but thats life. Never justify what you do and why you do it to the people that don't matter.

caledonia won't bemuch fun if your not talking to me.
 
The Red Head and The Blonde With Waves are going hammer and tongs at the moment. 2 very passionate lads flexing there biceps...great stuff

Nothing would surprise me Mayhem...5 footy trips to Indonesia under my belt, with some blokes that would make Lighty and lads look like alterboys.

Yeah, I forget about your pre marriage/family life as a piss drinking wild man. Dare say there would have been the odd strange occurance on a couple of those footy trips.
 
Nuggett my boy!
It was only a dig similar to the one sthat you and others have fired at me since April. You never should have to prove how much you are trying to make things happen just as i shouldn't have to justify the reasons why i coached Stratford.
The digs at clubs were tounge in cheek and similar to those you have thrown at me about why i changed cricket clubs. The footy was just to show some of the shit been thrown at me.

facts are -
Heyfield thirds are very successful this season as you have three regulars playing senior football in the best side. other sides (stratford) have said stuff senior, we want to win a flag. This has prob cost myself 3 wins this year and all the opinions on my coaching ability would not be as bad if Stratty had won 6 games.
It was never a dig at your intgrity and even if it was who cares as you are doing what you think is right for you, your family. Just i have. No one knows the work people do and at the end of the day if you enjoy what you do who cares.
Read back at all the opinions you and others have thrown at me and my ability and clubs where i am at. I am proud of what i have done in my 2 years at Stratty, i do have regrets that it hasn't worked as fast i hoped it would but thats life. Never justify what you do and why you do it to the people that don't matter.

caledonia won't bemuch fun if your not talking to me.

We have four regulars in the seniors with another player playing a few games and one at power just to clear that up, I may have made a dig at you as a coach and have said many positive things about your time at stratford which easily out weigh all the negative things i have said. Maybe you need to have a go at the countless number of 17 year olds that have had a go at you on here.

I care if it was a dig at my integrity as i back every decision i have made as being in the best interest of everyone involved.

I questioned your loyalty nothing to do with your integrity which is what came across in that post against me.
 
Yeah, I forget about your pre marriage/family life as a piss drinking wild man. Dare say there would have been the odd strange occurance on a couple of those footy trips.

Didnt you hear that story about Bree Maddox, Stuart Anderson and a raffle hahaha hilarious.
 
We have four regulars in the seniors with another player playing a few games and one at power just to clear that up, I may have made a dig at you as a coach and have said many positive things about your time at stratford which easily out weigh all the negative things i have said. Maybe you need to have a go at the countless number of 17 year olds that have had a go at you on here.

I care if it was a dig at my integrity as i back every decision i have made as being in the best interest of everyone involved.

I questioned your loyalty nothing to do with your integrity which is what came across in that post against me.


i to have always made decisions n the best intrest of everyone. that is why the clubs i have left i am still welcomed to return.

I guess at the end of the day there is no right or wrong way to coach, recruit, play or build a club. You do it with the best intrests and sometimes you win and sometimes you loose. "Sometimes you are a hero and most of the time you are zero" that is what makes football and cricket so great. It divides opinions.
 
Possible Thirds Team of the Year

Backs - Darcy McAlpine (Wood) Ryan Carolan (Hey) Lewis Bolton (Strat)
Half Backs Daniel Burnett (B\B) Bryce Trbovich (Hey) Dylan Cartwright (Strat)
Centres: Harry Dawson (Glen) Joshua Mayoroga (Gorm) Nicholas Albanese (TTU)
Half Forwards: Luke Hedger (S City) Justin Hunt (B/B) Brian Graham (Gorm)
Forwards Zach Callow (Gorm) Bradley Mcbride (Coww) Corey Patmore (Rose)
Rucks - Nicoll Sandison (B/B) Lachlan Johnson (Coww) Kodie Woodland (Hey
Interchange[/B] - Daniel Cameron (Bois/Briag) Nathan Jones (Strat) Rohan Diamond (Rose) Jesse Whelan (Hey)???

Coach – Sam (David Parkin) Anstee (Hey)
Captain – Lachlan Johnson (Coww)
 
Possible Thirds Team of the Year

Backs - Darcy McAlpine (Wood) Ryan Carolan (Hey) Lewis Bolton (Strat)
Half Backs Daniel Burnett (B\B) Bryce Trbovich (Hey) Dylan Cartwright (Strat)
Centres: Harry Dawson (Glen) Joshua Mayoroga (Gorm) Nicholas Albanese (TTU)
Half Forwards: Luke Hedger (S City) Justin Hunt (B/B) Brian Graham (Gorm)
Forwards Zach Callow (Gorm) Bradley Mcbride (Coww) Corey Patmore (Rose)
Rucks - Nicoll Sandison (B/B) Lachlan Johnson (Coww) Kodie Woodland (Hey
Interchange[/b] - Daniel Cameron (Bois/Briag) Nathan Jones (Strat) Rohan Diamond (Rose) Jesse Whelan (Hey)???
Coach – Sam (David Parkin) Anstee (Hey)
Captain – Lachlan Johnson (Coww)


Hey mate, I can only really comment on Stratford, as I see them most weeks, but, I don't see the other sides, unless of course we are playing against them. I would have thought that there are about 6 players from Stratty who would get in the team of the year before Nathan Jones. Lewis Bolton, Dylan Cartwright, along with Kane Kerton, Corey Key, Kyle and Dylan Taylor, Ryan Weatherley, and I am sure there would be others as well. Nathan has had a good year, and kicking 40 goals is a good effort, however, when you put it into context, kicking 2 goals a game when you play at full forward isn't really a great achievement when you have only lost 1 game for the year.
 
Close.....i had Jason Enjess as coach dint have nathan jones in there or JW, had Somlai TTU and Sheridan Gormandale.

B. Dawson Carrolan Mcalpine
HB. Hedger Trobvich Cartwright
C Albanese Mayoroga Diamond
HF Bacon Callow Graham
F Hunt Mcbride Patmore
R Sandison Johnston Woodland

Int Cameron Burnett Sheridan Bolton
 
Kerton was close in mine but i saw he hadnt got in the best alot..think he will be a good player. I based my team on performances against us and used a few statistics off the website.
 
Close.....i had Jason Enjess as coach dint have nathan jones in there or JW, had Somlai TTU and Sheridan Gormandale.

B. Dawson Carrolan Mcalpine
HB. Hedger Trobvich Cartwright
C Albanese Mayoroga Diamond
HF Bacon Callow Graham
F Hunt Mcbride Patmore
R Sandison Johnston Woodland

Int Cameron Burnett Sheridan Bolton

Yeah good side Nuggett!!! which numba was Somlai???
 
11 maybe he played 3 quarters had short hair hard at it pretty sillky skilled played ones too. Squeezed him out for sheridan left footer from Gormy.
 
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