Why not have a best of 3 finals series then? That should decide definitively who is the best team.
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Why not have a best of 3 finals series then? That should decide definitively who is the best team.
disagree.
extra time is the way to go. sort it out there and then.
if we come back the following week it may give one team an advantage. someone may now be eligible the following week coming back from injury or suspension. it also may disadvantage a side (eg. if 89 was a draw would derime and dipper been able to get up for the following week ? )
IF 89 was a draw, Hawthorn would not have been able to field a team the following week!
Co-Premiers...It'll never happen. If the GF replay was also a draw it would end with 5 minutes extra time each way. Still level, go another 5..............
I like both the replay, and the idea of extra time for a drawn GF.
A GF replay would be a tremendous money spinner all round. I doubt the AFL, media outlets, hotels, airlines etc would consider it a "logistical nightmare", they'd be too busy counting the cash.
I don't think it would be that big a money spinner. A lot of the GF money is made with package deals, corporate stuff etc which is all sold months in advance. Selling all that again in the space of a week just wouldn't happen. Not to mention that most of the buyers of those packages are "theatre goer" types who would probably feel they've had their money's worth with the excitement of a close game and wouldn't go a second time.
You'd be mainly selling to those who couldn't get a seat the first time, and while that would be great for fans of the teams involved, I don't think they'd fill the ground the second time around. Particularly if the teams involved are from outside Victoria - the will may be there, but it's just not that easy to make a trip to Melbourne on a couple of days notice.
For the AFL, the logisitcs of putting it all together would outweigh the financial gain.
On top of that, the AFL would have to spend the week answering questions from the media about "why don't you play extra time", and as they do every time they're asked a tricky question they'd just change the rules so it looks like they know what they're doing.
I agree, but I'm dying for the next and last drawn GF. Hopefully this year between Geelong and St Kilda.
best thing would be to ask the old timers on here, what the week was like in Melbourne in 1977 after the drawn GF, in the lead up to the replay... was the hype for the game as big as it was the week before, or the did the sting come out of it a bit with s "let's get on with it and declare a premier already" mentality?
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I wasn't born in 1948, and am too young to remember 1977, but I checked a book I have on AFL Finals and it makes for interesting reading.
In the 1948 Grand Final, 85,600 people watched Essendon & Melbourne play a draw. A week later, only 52,200 people turned out to watch the Dees trounce the Bombers by 39 points in the replay.
In 1977, Collingwood & North Melbourne tied in front of 108,200 fans, and the Kangaroos won a high-scoring replay in front of a much lesser crowd of 98,300 the next Saturday.
The book makes note that the 1948 replay was a wet day, but other Grand Finals in the late 1940s & early 1950s were well attended despite the wet weather. No mention was made of the weather conditions in 1977, but the high scoring nature of the replay suggests fine weather - 21.25-151 to 19.10-124.
Given the lesser crowds - and that the details of the 1977 replay are rarely discussed and seem to have slipped into obscurity would suggest significantly less interest in the replays. Another factor might be that people might have planned things such as weddings or holidays for the week after the Grand Final in those years, thinking that the football season would be over.
Well, NRL Finals Series anyway. The NRL GF is played the week after the AFL GF. It's the NRL Preliminary Finals that are played the weekend of the AFL GF.
I could be wrong here, but I thought it was up to ANZ Stadium which contest to pick up if there was a clash between an NRL final and an AFL (Swans) final. They go with the contest that they think will be most profitable. If they had a choice between 1 or 2 NRL Preliminary Finals and an AFL Grand Final, which one do you think they would choose?
We need a Collingwood or North fan to tell us if the 2nd week was just as exciting. I can't imagine that the excitement would be the same. Not to mention the extra expense of buying tickets the next week or trips that have been planned.
Get it over on the 1 day with extra time i think!
I agree, but I think two 5-minute halves of extra time cheapens the Grand Final.
Have a longer break and then two 10-minute halves.
I think they probably have to commit to one or the other a little earlier than a week before the event.
I doubt they could go to the NRL on Monday morning and say "Sorry, your game's off next weekend, we're having the AFL replay instead".
If stadiums are an issue, I'm sure that there are some up here in the States that would gladly take on an AFL Grand Final Double Replay (but it has to be promoted as that). I'm certainly not promising MCG oval size, shape, or quality, but hey...the $econd $aturday of october $ertainly $ound$ like $omething I'd $how up for...
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Extra time, 5 minutes each way. If scores are still level, golden goal (not point). What's so hard about that? The presence of interstate clubs and fans who travel to the game, sometimes from the other side of the country, mean that anything less than a premiership being decided on the day would be a HUGE let-down.
And yes, a three-game series would be awesome but it's not going to happen.
But knowing the AFL, they'll probably wait until the next drawn grand final and replay before changing the rule...
And yes, a three-game series would be awesome but it's not going to happen.
But knowing the AFL, they'll probably wait until the next drawn grand final and replay before changing the rule...
But that swings both ways.
You have a team that cops a few injuries and are down to two on the bench, isn't that a disadvantage against that team which has to play a team who has full use of their bench in time-on?
Using that logic, we would outrule all draws.
Fans criss-cross the country each and every week. Does their effort entitle them to a result?
The people's Grand Final - sounds like a wonderful idea to me.
Does anyone remember Pat Rafter v Goran Ivanisevic at Wimbledon in 2001 I think - it was an awesome final, and an awesome atmosphere - just so happened that all the toffs who had tickets to the Sunday Final weren't permitted to use those tickets again the next day.
What on Earth is the problem with that?
You are right. If the AFL GF was to be played at ANZ Stadium, it would have to be planned that way months in advance... like the AFL GF being at Waverley in '91 knowing that the MCG was getting a facelift in September.
Unfortunately, if the MCG became unavailable for the GF just shortly before the decider... the next biggest stadium is Jihad. AFL GF at Jihad, yuck.
HE HAS A POINT!!!!! There is a massive difference between regular games and finals FFS! In soccer a draw is common in regular games but there is ALWAYS a result in finals!
What, that it would be a big letdown for all the interstaters who travelled for the game? That's not a good enough reason
When does the AFL ever give a shit about the fans anyway.
In soccer there are more draws than any other professional sport in the world. The nature of the game demands extra time to be played, otherwise both teams would shut up shop after half time and take their chances in a replay.
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