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I’d probably have the figures slightly different. You could argue grundy is underpriced after a poor year. Would think Grundy and Gawn are around 230-240. Then need to factor in the fact you can make one of them captain as well. Rucks are tough this year that’s for sure
Nank looked shocking on the weekend. Reckon he doesn't go above 75
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38 in a quarter before being put in cotton wool. Against Grundy.. what part of that was shocking?
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I thought he played the first half. TOG is 35% so maybe not quite but more than a quarter
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So a quarter and a bit at 1.1 ppm. If that’s shocking I’m Donald Trump
Maybe just the Richmond jumper he was wearing.
But in all seriousness, doesn't look like Nank gets the solo role that he needs to go above 75
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Well he will be solo with no Soldo (no pun intended). On what basis does he average under 75?
- Went 87 and 90 in his last 2 full seasons as #1 ruck
- Went 90 (adjusted) from round 17 last year through to the GF as #1 ruck
- Then you add in not being impacted as much as other rucks by less stoppages as he gets more of his points on the outside
- Priced @ only 72
I think you just don’t like the bloke as the numbers tell a pretty different story
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Yeah it's definitely not shocking, I never said it was. Think he represents value for sure. Best year of 89 though so not sure it's enough value to start with him ahead of some other rucks
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If we’re going on a potential 17 ppg increase that’s around the number most of the other ~500k mid pricers are being picked on
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For the record not saying Nank is a smash out of the park pick, but considering his price role and history it’s hard to not rate him an above average one. Also Richmond hat not on when looking at fantasy
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Yes but there's an argument that Witts represents more than 17 points value. Rucks are always a shit show so it's either set and forget or set 1 top ruck and play with the second. So for me Witts gets the nod although it's close. I had Nank all preseason up until looking at the numbers a little closer in these last few weeks
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Witts is the one who will be most effected by less stoppages. Half his points from hitouts, most of any ruck I think
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So outside of Gawn and Grundy ...who are the Ruckmen, who are most involved in general field play ?
ROB, and Nankervis .....who else?
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Looking through the injury list of all clubs according to the AFL website which may or may not have them all (it is the stupid afl)
By god that list is massive and reinforces that this preseason sucks really badly for injuries worse then any other from memory.
If i counted correctly 137 listed
By god that list is massive and reinforces that this preseason sucks really badly for injuries worse then any other from memory.
If i counted correctly 137 listed
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Chol rucked in the pre-season game did he not? I'd expect to see Chol line up at Round 1 as well.
Nank is also
137! **** me, if we can't get any good rookies when we're 137 players deep in injuries it is concerning.
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If every club has 44 players at equates to somewhere near 20% injured on average (can't be assed doing math may be incorrect
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If every club has 44 players at equates to somewhere near 20% injured on average (can't be assed doing math may be incorrect
-190% of my maths is fabricated, so don't rely on it either....
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Chol played when Nank was put in cotton wool. I’d put him at about a 5% chance to make the 22
He’s one of the most mobile rucks in the comp.. how the heck does he move like an old timer? I think you just don’t like the bloke as you’re literally pulling stuff out your backside to say he’s a bad choice
*Again Richmond hat not on, would be saying the same thing regardless of what team he was on
I actually had Nank in my side earlier in the preseason thank you very much, but have since moved past him. Of the Draper, Nank, McInerney tier of ruckman, I'd say McInereny is the safest followed by Nank with Draper last, but personall i think you should be taking Witts if you're not taking a Gawn or grundy.Chol played when Nank was put in cotton wool. I’d put him at about a 5% chance to make the 22
He’s one of the most mobile rucks in the comp.. how the heck does he move like an old timer? I think you just don’t like the bloke as you’re literally pulling stuff out your backside to say he’s a bad choice
*Again Richmond hat not on, would be saying the same thing regardless of what team he was on
And i do think he moves like he's old, I think it's his heavy upper body, makes him run sort of bent over. I legitimately thought he was like 32.
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I don't think witts will be effected by the rule changes as much as everyone thinks. First off it's only pre season so can only take it with a pinch of salt but even if it is less congested I still don't see witts averaging less then 90-95, his the clear number one ruck and always seems to keep it in the contest with his hitouts whereas rucks like gawn and grundy like to hit it to the outside.
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We’re drilled to take pre season with a grain of salt for good reason. But for this case writing things off as just pre season shenanigans is being a bit naive.
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So anyone have the balls to go Meek R1 Flynn R2 with Hunter at R3 lol
On a more serious note Max has a dream come true first 3 rounds i will have to go from Grundy to Gawn me thinks
On a more serious note Max has a dream come true first 3 rounds i will have to go from Grundy to Gawn me thinks
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If bucks decides to play grundy, cox and cameron (which it looks like he's going to) max is a lot safer. Think grundy could struggle to average 105+ this year with cameron getting more responsibility.
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