AFLW 2024 - Round 10 - Chat, game threads, injury lists, team lineups and more.
That makes me sad to think a cuddle from a man makes you feel wanted. Oh well it takes all types to make the world go round. Great username that also, maybe I will change.fat back pocket said:
GVFootyfan said:
GVFootyfan said:
GVFootyfan said:Whats your problem f**k wit?
Judging by the time you posted that pathetic quote, maybe your problem is the fact that you do not have a life. Either that, or you've just got home after working your very responsible job at Luna Park, where you man the dodgem car ride.
Did you spend a bit too much time last night hanging off the back of the dodgems, or are you just hyper from eating too many toffee apples.
F u k'n carni folk.
Duff Man said:GVFootyfan said:GVFootyfan said:Whats your problem f**k wit?
Judging by the time you posted that pathetic quote, maybe your problem is the fact that you do not have a life. Either that, or you've just got home after working your very responsible job at Luna Park, where you man the dodgem car ride.
Did you spend a bit too much time last night hanging off the back of the dodgems, or are you just hyper from eating too many toffee apples.
F u k'n carni folk.
Carni's...ah, gotta love'm. Great post Duff Man. he he.
If that's what you think, who am I to try and change your mind.fat back pocket said:
Duff Man said:GVFootyfan said:Hey Duff Man, I saw your twin the other day. I thought it was you. I even shouted your name but it just kept fingering its a r s e and eating its banana.GVFootyfan said:Whats your problem f**k wit?
Judging by the time you posted that pathetic quote, maybe your problem is the fact that you do not have a life. Either that, or you've just got home after working your very responsible job at Luna Park, where you man the dodgem car ride.
Did you spend a bit too much time last night hanging off the back of the dodgems, or are you just hyper from eating too many toffee apples.
F u k'n carni folk.
jmain14 said:
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tige19 said:This thread has nosed dived into depths almost unreachable with the pathetic dribble some (note SOME) of you tossas are posting.
From the start of the year we had some great people posting, there where some great debates and great discussion however more recentley the posting has turned into Primary School like bitching.
90% of the blokes on here are great to have a talk with, they have educated opinions which most of us appreciate and contribute in, unfortuantley there is that 10% of overweight, big mouthed donkeys that continue to bring down the good on this board.
If anyone else besides my self is getting sick of the crap that goes on in the GV thread, shout out and ill have the fat geeks moved on
Cheers to ECHUCABOY,Travvy,Jmain,Doona,BradRowe who are probably the original blokes on the board and actually talk some sense.
No doubt I'm one of the 10% you're referring to tige, and I'm happy to talk footy and have a bit of fun along the way. But I'm not gonna cop any s h i t from others without slinging it right back at them.tige19 said:This thread has nosed dived into depths almost unreachable with the pathetic dribble some (note SOME) of you tossas are posting.
From the start of the year we had some great people posting, there where some great debates and great discussion however more recentley the posting has turned into Primary School like bitching.
90% of the blokes on here are great to have a talk with, they have educated opinions which most of us appreciate and contribute in, unfortuantley there is that 10% of overweight, big mouthed donkeys that continue to bring down the good on this board.
If anyone else besides my self is getting sick of the crap that goes on in the GV thread, shout out and ill have the fat geeks moved on
Cheers to ECHUCABOY,Travvy,Jmain,Doona,BradRowe who are probably the original blokes on the board and actually talk some sense.
jmain14 said:
Duff Man said:
Doona2 said:
Travvy43 said:
tige19 said:This thread has nosed dived into depths almost unreachable with the pathetic dribble some (note SOME) of you tossas are posting.
From the start of the year we had some great people posting, there where some great debates and great discussion however more recentley the posting has turned into Primary School like bitching.
90% of the blokes on here are great to have a talk with, they have educated opinions which most of us appreciate and contribute in, unfortuantley there is that 10% of overweight, big mouthed donkeys that continue to bring down the good on this board.
If anyone else besides my self is getting sick of the crap that goes on in the GV thread, shout out and ill have the fat geeks moved on
Cheers to ECHUCABOY,Travvy,Jmain,Doona,BradRowe who are probably the original blokes on the board and actually talk some sense.
Doona2 said:
ECHUCABOY said:Tige got any of those hot tips or keepin them to yourself again!!
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Dude back Headturner. That is my tip and i assure you it will out stay Pendragon, have a read.
Summary
The last two years Derby Winners have been Plastered (115) and Elvstroem (114). Plastered beat Cox Plate winner Savabeel and Elvstroem beat fellow blue blood Kempinsky, who streeted the rest. Given the quality of those two horses mentioned and the apparent lack of depth in this field it can be safely stated that any horse who can rate 114 in this race will win it. In fact, in our opinion a 112 might be good enough, which is what we’ve set the race on. Here’s the table:
No. Horse Barrier Last 3 ratings Expected Peak Expertform Assessed Rating To win, needs to rate at least Expertform Assessed Price
1 PENDRAGON 15 110-111-112 112 111 112 $9.0
2 DANGER LOOMS 4 105-102-103 112 109 112 $50.2
3 DUELLED 2 105-110-110 110 110 112 $17.0
4 HEADTURNER 8 109-112-110 114 114 112 $2.5
5 GALLANT GURU 5 106-107-107 112 112 112 $5.0
6 REPLICATOR 3 103-110-108 110 109 112 $51.0
7 POWER OF DESTINY 16 106-103-88 111 106 112 $250.0
8 MANTON 12 106-110-110 110 110 112 $21.0
9 BENICIO 11 98-107-106 110 110 112 $10.0
10 POINT MADE 7 105-98-102 111 111 112 $13.0
11 MAJORCA 6 101-106-98 106 106 112 $250.0
12 SHOTGUN SAXON 14 107-98-102 112 107 112 $250.0
13 PORTLAND SPIRIT 10 101-102-106 106 106 112 $250.0
14 ESCAPE ARTIST 9 92-94-101 104 104 112 $250.0
15 ON THE MAP 1 102-102-99 102 102 112 $250.0
16 ON THE KNOCKER 13 93-94-93 99 99 112 $250.0
SUMMARY
HEADTURNER is the only horse in this race who has an expected peak above 112, and the only horse who we can reasonably see rating above 112. In the view of the Expertform rating’s, he is certain to do at least 112 and is more likely to find a peak of 114.
Consider the reasons why: Three starts ago, at MV over an unsuitable 1500m he ran a strong closing 2nd, rating 109. That was at an unsuitable track over an unsuitable trip. He was blocked in rounding the bend and only had the small MV straight in which to wind up. A 5 point level above that is 114. Next start, at Flemington, he ran a new best of 112, finishing too powerfully over 1800m to win. In that race, he ran his final 400m in 22.89, more than half a second faster than the next quickest final 400 in the race, a 23.42. It was the run of a horse who would have won by further had it been a race over further. It was the run of a horse not yet at his peak. Horse’s peak when they’re spent on the line, no energy left to rate with. Headturner was not spent rating 112 that day, meaning his expected peak is higher than 112.
Next start, and the reason for him being 2nd favourite behind Pendragon this Saturday, Headturner ran 2nd to Pendragon, beaten a short half head, at Caulfield over 2000m, rating 110. In that race he tracked Pendragon the whole way, gave him 2.5L straightening in a slow pace and just failed to run him down. This time, Headturner broke 23 for his final 400m, running it in 22.36 while Pendragon ran 22.59. Headturner ran his final 200 in 11.25 compared to Pendragon’s 11.45. The slow pace makes those sectionals a little flattering for both horses but the slow pace is also the reason Pendragon was able to hold Headturner out, and even then only just. The extra ground will suit Headturner more than Pendragon. He is a natural, strong stayer. If he finds a peak rating of 114, he will win the Derby. We conservatively rate him a $2.50 chance.
Third selection is the favourite PENDRAGON. We have mentioned his run in last start where he beat Headturner and the sectionals they ran above. This time, he won’t get it quite so easy. He has drawn very badly in 15 and will either have to lead or go back. If he goes back then he will be giving Headturner a start, which will make it very hard for him to win. He is a high class galloper however who in his last 3 runs has rated 112-111-110 and therefore could very well make a 117 horse as a 4yo, which will make him a regular in the Group 1’s. However, he is not a 117 horse yet and will not rate 117 in this Derby. To say he could rate 117 already would be to say he is 1.5 lengths superior to how Elvstroem was at the same time. That is plainly not true. The best he can do in it is 112, which although makes him a chance certainly does not make him a $2.70 chance, which he is currently in the market. However, for the reasons stated above this horse is a query at the 2500m. He might have no problem with it, but at Caulfield he was not as strong as Headturner on the line and even the 4th horse Point Made was running a faster final 200 than him. He is a definite query to last the trip, which is why we have given him 111 instead of 112 and rated him a $9.0 chance.
Thats why i wont back Pendragon mate, serioulsy get on Headturner, these guys are spot on.
cheers
