O'Meara - who wants him?

[harmesy 37]

we seem to have gotten the best out of our traded in players in recent times? I thought that was well known didn't realise it needed to be substantiated? I'm not referring to his injury issues obviously no club has control over that.

A glowing endorsement for "equalisation".

Hawthorn have one of the best in the land in "Jack" Russell.

He's gotten 5+ years out of a broken down Burgoyne when most thought he'd struggle to play out a 2 yr contract....he's taken a kid in the first round who had a busted leg that again, many said would never play senior AFL footy, yet here is running out for his 3rd game this week....He got three years out of Lake when lots of people were lining up to say he was finished at the Bulldogs....and he's done a power of work wth Rioli to keep him on the park....

Why should Hawthorn be denied trade targets because they take the risks?

Hawthorn and Russell would back themselves in to get O'Meara right, and the prospect of this as well as the new Dingley training base might just be what O'Meara is looking for.

I have said it in a previous thread....the Brian Lake "trade" was disgraceful.

In my opinion, Lake is the best fullback since Stephen Silvagni. His intercept marking was of a higher standard than any player in recent history - even Scarlett- and he played in a worst team.

So basically Hawthorn took "a punt" as you would say on the best full back of the last 15 years and gave up what? pick 25 or some pick in the 20s. Big deal. There was NO RISK in taking on Lake when the pick is in the 20s..

He won a Norm Smith Medal for gawd sake.

All this "he was carrying injuries, Hawthorn was courageous etc" to recruit the BEST fullback of the last 15 years is just media spin.
Hawthorn - if the system was truly "equitable" as the AFL spins it should have had to sacrifice something to get these high quality players.

Giving up a pick in the 20s is NO SACRIFICE. It is a gift.

 

[Big_Birdy]

So have there been AFL players who have had this type of injuries and overcome it to return to their best?

I'm no expert on the human body as such, but usually the types of injuries I've seen hinder careers is when the player is older - late 20's. I can't think of a lot in their early 20's that have been written off like this. So I'm curious about this.

Different injuries as ruptured patellas are very rare but Cavka had a foot thing which made him retire in his first year on the Eagles list.

Not sure how old Henschel was at the crows but problems started early.

Jack Trengove also a good example

 

[HBF]

Too expensive ..pass

And he's missed all but 2 years of footy.

 

[Glorious couch life]

Youre being pedantic. In trade terms they can get him without giving the Suns anything.

Ipso facto they can get him for nothing. Of course they have to pay him a salary........................its unlikely he will play for free...

You're being flippant with the term "literally".

 

[Furn2]

Im yet to find someone who's got bone on bone action happening in their knees able to play consistant high level sport for a long time. Certainly not without steroid injections and we both know he isn't allowed steroid injections due to being a professional sportsman.

He had a ruptured patella tendon. A ligament that attaches the kneecap to the shinbone. Nothing to do with cartridge in the knee which what bone on bone refers to.

Also Steroid injections as in cortisone are allowed.

 

[TheFourPillars]

The difference there is Dangerfield publicly stated he wanted to go to Geelong


If you read all of my posts and took your hawk blinkers off you'd see I've said I doubt Hawthorn has the currency to satisfy GC when plenty of other Melbourne based teams do.

JOM has not stated which club he wants to go to, but sure believe I have some side agenda, it just makes you look stupid.

This is where your searching for alternatives. If note IF he nominates Hawthorn and many players have done that in the past. Of the players that have how many have not made it to Hawthorn. Hawthorn will find a way to make it happen because this would have been planned.

 

[TheFourPillars]

You say Potato....

I'm sorry? are you comparing hibberd to JOM? The two players value are completely different spheres

 

[Nuggets73]

Nah no bets with you after you squibbed the last one.

Hahaha ... When??? ... That bet was never official FFS!
.... Don't stress my man - we'll save it for the the prelim!!

Chat soon Nicky - Go Hawks!!!

 

[Runk]

I'm sorry? are you comparing hibberd to JOM? The two players value are completely different spheres

I'm not interested in getting into a stoush here. All the best to you.

 

[HBF]

We don't have a first rounder this year and our second rounder in all likelihood will go to Hibberd.

Carlton not a bad call. Certainly a club that loves the big trades.

Too early for us in our rebuild to pay overs for a midfielder.

 

[vozzon]

So you paid overs

Did they get Aish in the deal as well? or a pick they recieved was traded for him?

If that was the case I would be happy with that considering you rule out drafting a spud.

 

[hawks787]

If I'm wrong I'm happy to be corrected.
From all I've read and heard the knees are a real concern, identical/similar to Cooney.
He was a legit gun that never fired again properly, no matter how resilient the body can be.

 

[Bombermania]

If I'm wrong I'm happy to be corrected.
From all I've read and heard the knees are a real concern, identical/similar to Cooney.
He was a legit gun that never fired again properly, no matter how resilient the body can be.

Without that 2008 season, Cooney would been seen as having been a good player, but because of 2008 we know he didn't play to his absolute best.

 

[TheFourPillars]

I'm not interested in getting into a stoush here. All the best to you.

There is no stoush

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Yes clubs that are chasing him will have an independent medical, this is where it gets interesting because he can refuse a medical until he gets to the club of his choice though.

Correct. he doesnt have to make himself available for interview or medical to any club he doesnt want to be traded to.

 

[Toump Ass]

**** this O'Meara person, whoever he is. This shit has Bitch Clark Mk 2 written all over it.

I hope it backfires MASSIVELY on whichever club gets him.

 

[ROOTA#6]

GC can pretend that they will only deal with the highest bidder.

But in reality this is just like any other trade.

But it shouldn't be. They have every right to be filthy and to try to make the best of it that they can. I am sick of blokes just opting out of clubs coz its a bit tough. Some clubs are just getting bent over by players

 

[ROOTA#6]

Collingwood did not give two first rounders for Treloar. It was a first rounder and a trade down from first to second. Massive difference.

And Treloar had played 80 games for GWS.

O'Meara has played 44 games and none in the past two seasons. These players are not remotely comparable except that they happen to have been drafted by foundation clubs.

He may be worth a first round pick for a club ballsy/stupid enough to take a punt, if they have need.

Didn't they give up this years and next years first rounders?

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Didn't they give up this years and next years first rounders?

And got back a second rounder. They gave up one first round pick and traded down a first for a second. Thats not the same thing as just giving up two first rounders.

Comprehension not your strong suit?

 

[Suma Magic]

But it shouldn't be. They have every right to be filthy and to try to make the best of it that they can. I am sick of blokes just opting out of clubs coz its a bit tough. Some clubs are just getting bent over by players

They can try their best to get a good deal but it's still the same as every other time a high profile out of contract player has requested a trade. They can only trade him to somewhere that he wants to go.

 

[Grongey]

He can come to the Swans if he'll sign for minimum wage plus match payments. And that would be a generous offer.

We have Heeney and Mills.

 

[ROOTA#6]

And got back a second rounder. They gave up one first round pick and traded down a first for a second. Thats not the same thing as just giving up two first rounders.

Comprehension not your strong suit?

No need for the condescending tone mate. The simple fact is Collingwood gave up a shitload for Treloar....and after the season he had it appears it was worth it

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

He'll look good in brown & gold

I think it said Gold Coast are after a talented youngster in trade.

That means the Hawks are out of the race.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

I think it said Gold Coast are after a talented youngster in trade.

That means the Hawks are out of the race.

He might end up at North then!

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I have said it in a previous thread....the Brian Lake "trade" was disgraceful.

In my opinion, Lake is the best fullback since Stephen Silvagni. His intercept marking was of a higher standard than any player in recent history - even Scarlett- and he played in a worst team.

So basically Hawthorn took "a punt" as you would say on the best full back of the last 15 years and gave up what? pick 25 or some pick in the 20s. Big deal. There was NO RISK in taking on Lake when the pick is in the 20s..

He won a Norm Smith Medal for gawd sake.

All this "he was carrying injuries, Hawthorn was courageous etc" to recruit the BEST fullback of the last 15 years is just media spin.
Hawthorn - if the system was truly "equitable" as the AFL spins it should have had to sacrifice something to get these high quality players.

Giving up a pick in the 20s is NO SACRIFICE. It is a gift.

You sound completely and utterly bitter about a fair trade, simply because it worked out well for Hawthorn when you really didn't want it to.