No Oppo Supporters OPPOSITION OBSERVATION XL

[Maurice Mitchell]

Wonder if Sidebottom just wanders in.

It could happen to anyone

 

[djspank]

This is a disgrace... Not even joking.

It's cos her old man keeps talking about how sh.t Richmond are when he commentates our games

 

[The_Kraken]

Breaking down the AFL's final four and the secret weapons that could decide this year's grand finalists

The race for the AFL premiership is down to just four teams. Here is what they need to nail this week in order to book a grand final spot.

www.abc.net.au

Quality article, doesn’t flatter us though

Great article — if you ignore our metrics.

 

[Noidnadroj]

You do realise it is aprox that time every season yes. More so when an Interstate side is involved.

Yep - it’s so if the interstate side wins they can fly back that night so as not to be too disadvantaged given they have to be back for GF parade.


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[Noidnadroj]

Norf giving corpse of Jack darling

27

Jack Darling

Age

32

Ht

191cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.1

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

4.2

3star

M

5.0

5star

T

3.0

5star

G

1.9

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

4.3

2star

HB

3.7

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

2.4

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

14.6

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.0

5star

M

6.0

5star

T

4.0

5star

G

1.4

5star

3 years

He’s been cooked since 2015

Yep … zero, and I mean zero sympathy for the Roos and their on-going issues - who can possibly sign off on paying Jack Darling $1.2m over 2 x seasons? It’s beyond belief. Staggering decision making that makes no sense on any level.


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[Noidnadroj]

Fun fact: Last time the cats finished bottom 4?

1986

That’s because they play home games at a bowling alley shaped ground completely foreign to every other team. They train on the ground and play 8-9 games there every season, so of course it locks in a guaranteed 5-6 x wins per season and that’s the major reason why they haven’t finished bottom 4 since 1986.

Who is next lowest for bottom-4 finishes? That’ll tell you all you need to know.

Cats have a home record of 67.76% wins and 122%. (44.65 & 96% away)

Richmond’s MCG record 55.15% and 102%. (43.95 & 93% away)

Even Eagles, where teams have to fly across the country have a home record worse than Geelong’s at 66.31% and 120%.

Or Adelaide 63.03% and 121%.

Or Port 63.96% and 116%.

So Geelong across their history have a greater home ground advantage than interstate teams. AND in addition to 8-9 Geelong games, they get 8-9 at the neutral MCG or Marvel.

Pies winning rate at Vic Park was 74.8% and 132%. Imagine they played 8-9 games there and 8-9 at the MCG or Marvel every year?!?? You reckon they’d finish bottom 4… ever?

Bombers winning rate at Windy Hill was 67% and 122%…

Carlton’s at Princes Park was 70.74% ….

Even the Saints at Moorabbin were 53.15% with 107%.

It’s a massive advantage playing on your own niche ground where you train and other teams rarely play there, especially when you don’t have to deal with 10 x genuine away games as non-Vic teams do.

Cats are a fantastic team, but it’s honestly not hard to work out why they never finish bottom-4 given they are the only Vic team to have retained their boutique ground.


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[Meteoric Rise]

That’s because they play home games at a bowling alley shaped ground completely foreign to every other team. They train on the ground and play 8-9 games there every season, so of course it locks in a guaranteed 5-6 x wins per season and that’s the major reason why they haven’t finished bottom 4 since 1986.

Who is next lowest for bottom-4 finishes? That’ll tell you all you need to know.

Cats have a home record of 67.76% wins and 122%. (44.65 & 96% away)

Richmond’s MCG record 55.15% and 102%. (43.95 & 93% away)

Even Eagles, where teams have to fly across the country have a home record worse than Geelong’s at 66.31% and 120%.

Or Adelaide 63.03% and 121%.

Or Port 63.96% and 116%.

So Geelong across their history have a greater home ground advantage than interstate teams. AND in addition to 8-9 Geelong games, they get 8-9 at the neutral MCG or Marvel.

Pies winning rate at Vic Park was 74.8% and 132%. Imagine they played 8-9 games there and 8-9 at the MCG or Marvel every year?!?? You reckon they’d finish bottom 4… ever?

Bombers winning rate at Windy Hill was 67% and 122%…

Carlton’s at Princes Park was 70.74% ….

Even the Saints at Moorabbin were 53.15% with 107%.

It’s a massive advantage playing on your own niche ground where you train and other teams rarely play there, especially when you don’t have to deal with 10 x genuine away games as non-Vic teams do.

Cats are a fantastic team, but it’s honestly not hard to work out why they never finish bottom-4 given they are the only Vic team to have retained their boutique ground.


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Absolutely spot on. I worked out before their advantages are adding around 1.5-2 wins per season to their bottom line. You take that amount of wins off them every season and lo and behold, they look like any other half decent Victorian team this century. Their "amazing" run of "contending" basically started through the period most Vic teams were migrated away from their historic unique home venues, and ramped right up once the process was complete.

In modern footy it isn't just the wins they are having on that ludicrous ground, it is the ease with which they can rely on winning most of those games that means they can put more effort into fewer games elsewhere, making it in turn easier for them to compete in neutral and away games.

This is before we consider the whole sorry conflict of interest saga where first their coaches best mate, then the coaches twin brother no less were in charge of the rules of the game, and MRO decisions, and scheduling, and had access to every club's TPP and so on, and they got end of rd 1 pick as compensation for Motlop. That went on for 5-6 years and the Cats have derived huge unfair advantages from that disgraceful series of events.

So when people say they are a great and well run club etc, this has only ever looked the case in my lifetime when there were substantial advantages other clubs did not have. Father-sons, home ground privileges, people changing the rules of the whole sport in their favour, and exclusive access to otherwise secret TPP information, not to mention scheduling benefits. Give any other club that raft of advantages and they would look amazing as well.

Contrast that with Richmond, a superbly run club, having little to no home ground advantage over all but a few interstate opponents each year, and pushing into strong umpiring headwinds year after year. Over the last 8 years Richmond has somehow magiically finished with the worst free kick differential 3 times more often than the other 17 clubs put together, not to mention the laughably random triangulation-gate, and the unprecedented but very revealing 3(Richmond) players in one match penalised by Hocking all 3 decisions found to be wrong by the Tribunal.

The AFL needs to sort Geelong's advantages out and level the playing field. We don't want those boring campaigners clogging up the finals every year.

 

[GhostofJimJess]

why do scats get an extra day break for their prelim when sydney finished top ?

So Sydney have an extra day between the PF and the GF

 

[GhostofJimJess]

That’s because they play home games at a bowling alley shaped ground completely foreign to every other team. They train on the ground

This bit is massive.

Richmond (and 16 other teams) get about 30 hours of time per season on their home deck, 90% of which is in combat. No real chance to develop strategies or condition themselves to the dimensions, nuances etc.

Geelong have virtually unlimited access to their home ground and spend over 200 hours on it’s surface, 90% of which is non-combat conditioning and strategising.

 

[thegrach]

Breaking down the AFL's final four and the secret weapons that could decide this year's grand finalists

The race for the AFL premiership is down to just four teams. Here is what they need to nail this week in order to book a grand final spot.

www.abc.net.au

Quality article, doesn’t flatter us though

That is a good look at things, very insightful. I notice that the Cats transition defence is mentioned here, I wonder how much of this is due to their home ground. I notice that the average score is higher for the MCG, SCG, Docklands and the Gabba over their history, with the relative new grounds of Adelaide Oval and Perth Stadium being lower, probably due to the lower average scores of recent times.

 

[Drunken Wookie]

That is a good look at things, very insightful. I notice that the Cats transition defence is mentioned here, I wonder how much of this is due to their home ground. I notice that the average score is higher for the MCG, SCG, Docklands and the Gabba over their history, with the relative new grounds of Adelaide Oval and Perth Stadium being lower, probably due to the lower average scores of recent times.

jesus just give us pick 1 next year now.

 

[Groupie_]

So Sydney have an extra day between the PF and the GF

means nothing if they dont win

geelol get the prelim final week extra break advantage cos theyre old campaigners

 

[Groupie_]

swannettes will have to do a 113 point turnaround to beat kennys pears tonight

 

[rfctigerarmy]

swannettes will have to do a 113 point turnaround to beat kennys pears tonight

Port could win though hey

 

[lumpinee]

swannettes will have to do a 113 point turnaround to beat kennys pears tonight

come siren time it will be a 201 point turn round
CFL directing their cheating puppets n bookies cleaned punters clocks last time

 

[Muddiemoose]

This is some good shit from the Giants Social media team and this bloke especially after being delisted
The part where he goes into Kingslys office made me genuinely lol

 

[Meteoric Rise]

swannettes will have to do a 113 point turnaround to beat kennys pears tonight

The Port side will be listing badly by 3/4 time Gru.

 

[Downtown06]

This is some good shit from the Giants Social media team and this bloke especially after being delisted
The part where he goes into Kingslys office made me genuinely lol

HAHA gold, hope he gets a gig in their media department

 

[Muddiemoose]

HAHA gold, hope he gets a gig in their media department

Giants media are the best in the comp bar none for social media content
Hope they keep it up

 

[Groupie_]

This is some good shit from the Giants Social media team and this bloke especially after being delisted
The part where he goes into Kingslys office made me genuinely lol

need one for sonsie

 

[Muddiemoose]

need one for sonsie

Gunna start calling him Gonsie

 

[beema limapep]

Gunna start calling him Gonsie

Need him to be escorted out of the club by this.....

 

[Muddiemoose]

Need him to be escorted out of the club by this.....

Geeeze you were definitely looking for any excuse to post that one

 

[Ctl]

“It doesn't mean he gets the role, but Richmond actually asked him to go through the process last year (to replace Damien Hardwick), he declined, it wasn’t the right time for him.”

Mastermind behind 2023 Pies flag in “box seat” for vacant Eagles job

“They couldn’t be more impressed with him.”

www.sen.com.au

ffs

 

[Tiges1229]

swannettes will have to do a 113 point turnaround to beat kennys pears tonight

Oracle has arrived port will beat shitney