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15 players from RFC change clubs since 2017?
Dunno never thought about it.
Delidio
Vickery
Griffith/Lloyd
Butler
Higgins
B.Ellis
C. Ellis
Markov
Chol
CCJ
Markov
Stengle..
Giving Freo a run for their money. 2 flag winners stengle and Markov
We probably got more high draft picks that turned to spuds that end in suburban footy
RCD, Menadue, Miles, Townsend , Lennon , Elton Paddy Naish
A lot of depth players the only real star we lost was Lids who was injury prone.
Freo lost guys like Cerra who were top 5 players with plenty of footy left and now losing their best small forward.
 
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15 players from RFC change clubs since 2017?
Dunno never thought about it.
Delidio
Vickery
Griffith/Lloyd
Butler
Higgins
B.Ellis
C. Ellis
Markov
Chol
CCJ
Markov
Stengle..
Giving Freo a run for their money. 2 flag winners stengle and Markov
We probably got more high draft picks that turned to spuds that end in suburban footy
RCD, Menadue, Miles, Townsend , Lennon , Elton Paddy Naish

Where is rcd these days? So much potential. …
 

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15 players from RFC change clubs since 2017?
Dunno never thought about it.
Delidio
Vickery
Griffith/Lloyd
Butler
Higgins
B.Ellis
C. Ellis
Markov
Chol
CCJ
Markov
Stengle..
Giving Freo a run for their money. 2 flag winners stengle and Markov
We probably got more high draft picks that turned to spuds that end in suburban footy
RCD, Menadue, Miles, Townsend , Lennon , Elton Paddy Naish
Positives
Vickery we turned in Shai Bolton :trophy::trophy:
Lids we turned into Balta :trophy: / CCJ
The CCJ trade helped pay for Tim Taranto 🏅
Higgins we upgrade our 2020 1st rounder which we traded for Geelong's F1 - Tom Brown and received a F2 Judson Clarke
Monica (C Ellis) & Miles used to get Gold Coast F3 2019 which we used to draft HRS
Markov traded for a future third to Gold Coast who delisted him.
Future third used in the CCJ trade
Chol compo used in a pick swap to Collingwood to get pick 27 (30) Sam Banks

Negatives
Stengle pick used to draft Luke English
B Ellis was a free agent and the pick used a bust (Will Martyn) but we were jibbed of a end of first compo
 
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A lot of depth players the only real star we lost was Lids who was injury prone.
Freo lost guys like Cerra who were top 5 players with plenty of footy left and now losing their best small forward.
The problem with Fremantle. Discuss

Definitely the second teams in the other states have struggled. Port won a flag and the others have been in the GF.


Having lived there for 6 months Perth/Freo pretty much the same city . I used to drive from mt Hawthorn to Freo a bit.
Perth is insular. I'd never heard of the eastern states until I spent time in Perth.
Understand it when you drive the nullabor

As far as the AFL teams go the Eagles have a lot of dirty laundry. But they do win flags. Unusually turned into the basket case of late

Freo
I don't see much of them so I know nada but in last few years
Change of coach.

Neale is the star that left them. For money.
Maybe Bell is the problem. Luke Jackson went there as did Hogan and Lobb and Lobb's on 800k
Losing Cerra. Good young player. Too expensive?
Just sounds like modern list managenent. Look at our departures. A successful club so we don't /can't retain certain players


Pretty sure Higgins was a high draft pick couldn't wait to get out of the club.
Had a great debut year.

Ellis, 2 time flag winner.
Butler 1 time flag winner.

I notice RFC best 22 seems to be a change of 5 players each year. So North or Suns make big offers for Chol CJ. like Cerra to CFC , we can't retain everyone.
 
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15 players from RFC change clubs since 2017?
Dunno never thought about it.
Delidio
Vickery
Griffith/Lloyd
Butler
Higgins
B.Ellis
C. Ellis
Markov
Chol
CCJ
Markov
Stengle..
Giving Freo a run for their money. 2 flag winners stengle and Markov
We probably got more high draft picks that turned to spuds that end in suburban footy
RCD, Menadue, Miles, Townsend , Lennon , Elton Paddy Naish

All those Fremantle boys were in their B22 but requested trades. Deledio and maybe B.Ellis are the only two I'd class in the same category. Vickery was traded, Griffith left for opportunities in the US and all the rest of the players mentioned couldn't get a game.
 
What a ****ing joke… what’s the point of trading draft picks for future years when their value could be anywhere from 10-15 picks difference by the time you get to use them.

Picks 2 and 3 to Norf + an assistance package. It costs every big club in the league money for this rabble to exist and on top of that we now have to watch them get their hands on more of the top quality young players. Waiting for a young player to take legal action against the AFL for ruining their career by sending them to shitholes like Norf. Should’ve happened with GC/GWS after they were oversupplied with youngsters which resulted in some having much shorter careers than would normally be expected.

Also, where’s our ****ing first round compo for ELLIS, first you took away the value of our pick in the draft we took him and then you shafted us when we let him go, check collingwoods books ya dogs!

End rant.
 
Positives
Vickery we turned in Shai Bolton :trophy::trophy:
Lids we turned into Balta :trophy: / CCJ
The CCJ trade helped pay for Tim Taranto 🏅
Higgins we upgrade our 2020 1st rounder which we traded for Geelong's F1 - Tom Brown and received a F2 Judson Clarke
Monica (C Ellis) & Miles used to get Gold Coast F3 2019 which we used to draft HRS
Markov traded for a future third to Gold Coast who delisted him.
Future third used in the CCJ trade
Chol compo used in a pick swap to Collingwood to get pick 27 (30) Sam Banks

Negatives
Stengle pick used to draft Luke English
B Ellis was a free agent and the pick used a bust (Will Martyn) but we were jibbed of a end of first compo
Didn't we get Caddy with a pick that was part of the Deledio trade as well? There's another couple of flags.
 
What a ******* joke… what’s the point of trading draft picks for future years when their value could be anywhere from 10-15 picks difference by the time you get to use them.

Picks 2 and 3 to Norf + an assistance package. It costs every big club in the league money for this rabble to exist and on top of that we now have to watch them get their hands on more of the top quality young players. Waiting for a young player to take legal action against the AFL for ruining their career by sending them to shitholes like Norf. Should’ve happened with GC/GWS after they were oversupplied with youngsters which resulted in some having much shorter careers than would normally be expected.

Also, where’s our ******* first round compo for ELLIS, first you took away the value of our pick in the draft we took him and then you shafted us when we let him go, check collingwoods books ya dogs!

End rant.
I've said it before but imagine being one of the lands best kids for the upcoming draft and knowing you're no chance of playing finals for years while you're under 18's teammate who you know will be drafted in the teens is headed for a finals team and a better chance than you to play in them. There is no benefit in being the best kid in the draft unless you are landing at a finals club.

I'm amazed more haven't asked to be traded after 2 years once the novelty of being on an AFL list has worn off.
 

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Didn't we get Caddy with a pick that was part of the Deledio trade as well? There's another couple of flags.

The pick we got Caddy with was part of the Prestia trade.

Richmond gave Pick 6, 2017 2nd round pick for Prestia and pick 24(all these picks slid a bit.)

We then gave picks 24 and 62 to Geelong(they took Parfitt and Narkle) in return for Caddy and pick 56(we took Jack Graham.)

We did ok out of all that. :)


The Deledio deal was:

Deledio to GWS for a F1(ended up pick 15) and F3(ended up pick 54.)

We traded both those picks to Brisbane and they took Bailey and Payne. We got back picks 20(Coleman-Jones) and 25(Balta.)


We didn't come out of that one too shabbily either. :)
 
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