Seriously, at what point do they just cut their losses and put him out of his misery?
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Yeah draft order is based on final results. Best case scenario is pick 13
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Interesting post from a Freo supporter on their board.
1st rounders who played this week and on the list in total
Whilst we have more than most we're aren't swimming in first rounders as some people insinuate.
And we played with more than only 4 teams this last week gone.
Adelaide - 6 played 10 total
Brisbane - 8 played 10 total
Carlton - 13 played 19 total
Collingwood - 9 played 17 total
Essendon - 11 played 15 total
Freo - 3 played 8 total
Geelong - 7 played 8 total
GCS - 7 played 15 total
GWS - 11 played 19 total
HAW - 7 played 10 total
Melb - 9 played 10 total
North - 8 played 14 total
Rich - 9 played 12 total
Port - 8 played 13 total
STK - 6 played 13 total
SYD - 5 played 9 total
WCE - 11 played 15 total
WB - 7 played 9 total
1st rounders who played this week and on the list in total
Whilst we have more than most we're aren't swimming in first rounders as some people insinuate.
And we played with more than only 4 teams this last week gone.
Adelaide - 6 played 10 total
Brisbane - 8 played 10 total
Carlton - 13 played 19 total
Collingwood - 9 played 17 total
Essendon - 11 played 15 total
Freo - 3 played 8 total
Geelong - 7 played 8 total
GCS - 7 played 15 total
GWS - 11 played 19 total
HAW - 7 played 10 total
Melb - 9 played 10 total
North - 8 played 14 total
Rich - 9 played 12 total
Port - 8 played 13 total
STK - 6 played 13 total
SYD - 5 played 9 total
WCE - 11 played 15 total
WB - 7 played 9 total
I'm not sure his misery will end when he eventually gets cut.
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Saad play another good game for Essendon , should look at state league mature age more without the go home factor .
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IF the Demons beat the Giants
Sydney will play GWS at the SCG in the Elimination Final
AND
Geelong will play Melbourne at the MCG after the 2 games this year were both decided at the death.
IF the Giants beat the Demons, Geelong and Melbourne will both have to play in Sydney against the Swans and Giants respectively.
IF the Lions beat the Eagles then Collingwood will steal 2nd place and an MCG clash with the Eagles.
IF the Eagles lose 2 finals in straight sets, pick #14 could be ours!
Tigers will play the Hawks no matter what for the first time in Final ever.
Sydney will play GWS at the SCG in the Elimination Final
AND
Geelong will play Melbourne at the MCG after the 2 games this year were both decided at the death.
IF the Giants beat the Demons, Geelong and Melbourne will both have to play in Sydney against the Swans and Giants respectively.
IF the Lions beat the Eagles then Collingwood will steal 2nd place and an MCG clash with the Eagles.
IF the Eagles lose 2 finals in straight sets, pick #14 could be ours!
Tigers will play the Hawks no matter what for the first time in Final ever.
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Depend on how much Lion win against Eagles , West coast could play Richmond
Based on percentage .
Eagles 120.8
Collingwood 120. 4
Hawthorn 120.1
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Lachie Neale to the Lions? Surely not
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Massive pick up for them if they can manage it.
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http://www.lions.com.au/news/2018-08-28/paparones-game-day-gallery
Something interesting the Lions apparently do. Have a match for 'extended bench members' out on the field.
That would be cool
Something interesting the Lions apparently do. Have a match for 'extended bench members' out on the field.
That would be cool
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It gives us hope 'if' true.
Not only have they turned around the club from a basket case but good players 'possibly' wanting to go there as well.
Beams has come out today to declare he's seeing out his contract.
Drafting kids made of the right stuff is the key now.
He’ll stay. Another one of those rumours that go around for a week then gets dismissed then we never hear about it again.
And no way they should lose a home prelim with a weeks’ rest, although would love the Dees with that midfield to steamroll them. We need to develop a midfield like Melbourne’s, with big, skilful hardnuts such as Oliver, Brayshaw etc.
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I don't think Melbourne Style work for GC , the current list Clayton left behind consisted of a lot of skinny Flanker , you need to create a gameplan that suite to this type of players .Create your own style by borrowing idea from other team .
At this point, getting a pick in the trade somewhere b/w 14 (if they lost both games) or 18 is not really a big deal. Worth about the same to us. It was a bad result for us as soon as they started playing so well and winning so many close games. Needed to be a top 10 pick to be a solid result. I was OK with the trade at the time, so can't really complain. The Eagles have just played a lot of great football this year.
The wider problem we are having is the large amount of draft capital we are accumulating each year as we (1) stink, (2) trade players for picks, and (3) keep producing academy players we want to add to the list. Keep having to trade forward picks or try to move up in the draft since we have more top 35 picks than list spots available, since we are keeping 1 or 2 spots open for academy draftees.
I’m all for keeping the best of our “skinny flankers”, but keep them on the outside, and draft a couple more running big bulls to help win contested ball. Not always easy to find those players though.
Just curious, who do you consider from current players as 'skinny Flankers'? I can see only Martin and Powell. Did I miss someone?
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Scrimshaw , Shoenfield, Wigg ,Hebron , Nutting, Lemmann ,McPherson,Ballard .
Skinny not interm of KG , but muscles mass . Martin don't need to be big because he can leap and take mark .
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It goes back to every draft Clayton did where he always went for skinny kids with potential and rarely a big-bodied AFL ready prospect. It is a criticism but also demonstrates Clayton's flawed genius for list building, forever with an eye to the future and rarely picking for immediate need. If I picked a player from each of his drafts you'd see what the haters mean, but also how the kids turned out.
2010 Harley Bennell Height:185 cm Weight:74 kg
2011 Jaeger O'Meara Height:183 cm Weight:83 kg
2012 Jack Martin Height:186 cm Weight:82 kg
2013 Kade Kolodjashnij Height:190 cm Weight:85 kg
2014 Jarrod Garlett Height:180 cm Weight:74 kg
2015 Callum Ah Chee Height:182 cm Weight:71 kg
2016 Jack Bowes Height:187 cm Weight:82 kg
2017 Wil Powell Height:185 cm Weight:70 kg
These height and weight figures are mostly current, but not particularly accurate. Some of the kids have put on weight and some haven't. And there are 30 more like this! But the one most punters continually point to is Spindleshanks Jarrad Grant, twiced drafted by Scott Clayton, first at the Bulldogs and then to the Suns.
Very rarely draftees have adequate muscles mass. Always remember how skinny Fyfe was or even Lynch if you look at their draft picture. From your list I personally would not consider any player skinny Flanker. Lemmens, McPherson, Wigg, Shoenfeld are close to optimal body, muscle. Ballard drafted was 83 kg, as Scrimshaw. In a 1-2 years both will be 90kg with developed bodies.
Heron as a small forward has actually the best body from our draftees.
JOM, Bowes, Ah Chee not skinny Flankers for me. The rest I would say yes.
