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[60 Yards Out]

I don't think I've ever heard Owies speak.

No need. The jumper says it all.

 

[nahnah]

Martin should have retired two years ago really

 

[nahnah]

I don't think I've ever heard Owies speak.

I have, on the Sunday Footy show. He is a terrible public speaker based off that

 

[Pistol Night]

I don't think I've ever heard Owies speak.

"Me little flog. Me play for Carlton"

 

[JLC]

‘Culturally unsafe at Hawthorn’: The key allegations in the Rioli Federal Court claim

Here are the key points of what is alleged in the statement of claim lodged in the Federal Court against the Hawthorn Football Club.

www.theage.com.au

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A statement of claim lodged in the Federal Court – which includes Hawthorn great Cyril Rioli, his wife, Shannyn Ah Sam-Rioli, his ex-teammates Carl Peterson and Jermaine Miller-Lewis, and Indigenous ex-official Leon Egan and the partner of another former player – alleges that, due to “unlawful discrimination” by Hawthorn, the players suffered “distress”, “psychological harm” and “personal harm”.

Cyril Rioli and Shannyn Ah Sam-Rioli​

• Alastair Clarkson called Cyril Rioli “Humphrey B Bear” throughout his career at Hawthorn. In the claim, it was said that this “thereby associated Mr Rioli with a black bear and chose to publicly refer to him in that way.”
• In their claim, Rioli and Ah Sam-Rioli say that during Cyril’s time at Hawthorn, club employees “regularly said things to Mr Rioli that were culturally ignorant”.
• The claim said, that on an end of season trip in 2013, Indigenous player Bradley Hill was asked by senior player Grant Birchall whether Hill’s partner was also a “boong” – an alleged comment that Hill was said to have relayed to his teammate Rioli. Hawthorn did not take any action in response to this incident, the Rioli statement of claim said.
• The Rioli claim said that the 2015 Norm Smith medallist felt “culturally unsafe at Hawthorn” and that Ah Sam-Rioli didn’t take part in wives and girlfriends (WAG) events at the club as a result of feeling culturally unsafe.
• The claim said that in April 2016, Ah Sam-Rioli took her husband’s nephew, aged 13 or 14, to the players’ rooms, where a Hawthorn staffer asked to see their wristbands and said to the boy, “now you behave yourself when you go in there”.
• The Rioli statement said Clarkson had visited Cyril Rioli’s father, “unannounced,” in an Alice Springs hospital after Rioli senior suffered a heart attack in 2017.
• During his visit to Alice Springs, Clarkson said to Mr Rioli words to this effect: “Why do these Aboriginals have darker skin that you?”
• The statement also alleged that, at a meeting at the home of Cyril Rioli’s uncle in 2011, the coach questioned Rioli about how the off-season was going, and then said words to the effect “be careful not to have babies and understand that your career has just taken off and that a child will disrupt your career or potentially end it”.

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There are more indigenous Australians in the article.

To link Humphrey B Bear to race is laughable.

Ditto the boy being spoken to before entering the rooms.

Perhaps the education needs to be both ways.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Bulldogs post honouring Hawkins Tom's daughter, Mimi has always loved the Bont

 

[Deleted member 133504]

"Me little flog. Me play for Carlton"

That's a lot of syllables, Pistol. Are you sure they didn't just get him to lip synch Microsoft Sam?

 

[jathanas]

To link Humphrey B Bear to race is laughable.

Ditto the boy being spoken to before entering the rooms.

Perhaps the education needs to be both ways.

This is a difficult topic.

I would err on the side of kindness and understanding but I'm confused that those specific incidents were put before the federal court.

*I did not read the entire document I linked to. It might paint a different picture.

 

[jmac70]

To link Humphrey B Bear to race is laughable.

Ditto the boy being spoken to before entering the rooms.

Perhaps the education needs to be both ways.

Humphrey B Bear is black.

 

[Doc1763]

Humphrey B Bear is black.

I thought he was brown

 

[jmac70]

I thought he was brown

Sorry, I’ll rephrase, Humphrey is a bear of colour.
Wonder why someone would refer to an Indigenous man in this way.

Doesn’t sound culturally safe.

 

[Doc1763]

Sorry, I’ll rephrase, Humphrey is a bear of colour.
Wonder why someone would refer to an Indigenous man in this way.

Doesn’t sound culturally safe.

no, it doesn't. These allegations are extremely disturbing.

 

[76woodenspooners]

To link Humphrey B Bear to race is laughable.

Ditto the boy being spoken to before entering the rooms.

Perhaps the education needs to be both ways.

It was taken as meaning that Clarkson (page 21) “… associated Mr Rioli with a black bear and chose to publicly refer to him in that way.”

 

[slugger01]

Wasn't Presti's nickname 'Humprey'?

Carlton's Matthew Kreuzer was Humphrey.
I think he kicked more goals than said words in his career...

 

[The Magnificent Seven]

Carlton's Matthew Kreuzer was Humphrey.
I think he kicked more goals than said words in his career...

Was he a funny old fellow? Did he lead a very exciting life? And get in all manner of strife?

 

[neilk]

It was taken as meaning that Clarkson (page 21) “… associated Mr Rioli with a black bear and chose to publicly refer to him in that way.”

I know the guy who was inside the Humphrey Bear suit. He was a producer if children's shows at channel 9. He was later accused of "interfering" with young children.
Edit: The charges were later dismissed but the stigma had a huge impact on him.

 

[Kirby]

I know the guy who was inside the Humphrey Bear suit. He was a producer if children's shows at channel 9. He was later accused of "interfering" with young children.
Edit: The charges were later dismissed but the stigma had a huge impact on him.

Is that why you moved to Thailand?

 

[NMBB]

Is that why you moved to Thailand?

Seems quite a few BF posters are digital nomads

 

[slugger01]

Was he a funny old fellow? Did he lead a very exciting life? And get in all manner of strife?

Well, honey was his favourite fare. Which is hardly so very surprising.
He's a really amazing old bear!

 

[sideswipe]

Well, honey was his favourite fare. Which is hardly so very surprising.
He's a really amazing old bear!

Ageist

 

[neilk]

Is that why you moved to Thailand?

Wait, what?
That was just a golfing holiday. Back in town a long time ago. Time to meet for a drink next MCG game.

 

[sideswipe]

Wait, what?
That was just a golfing holiday. Back in town a long time ago. Time to meet for a drink next MCG game.

I think Kirby was tipping you off to leave town before the raid.

 

[Jen2310]

Been cooked for a few years tbf

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Been cooked for a few years tbf

Forgot he was still playing.