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4:35:31 PM Tue 26 July, 2005
Paul Gough
Sportal for afl.com.au
Geelong ruckman Brad Ottens is finally ready to make his long-awaited return from a groin injury in a major boost to the Cats' hopes of securing a top four finish.

Ottens will return for Friday night's clash against Essendon at Telstra Dome in what will be his first match since round 12.

During his absence the Cats have lost three of their five matches and have slipped outside the top four following last week's shock loss to the Western Bulldogs.

While Cats' fans have become frustrated at Ottens' continued absence with what was originally thought to be a minor groin injury, Geelong football manager Garry Davidson told Sportal the former Tiger was a certain starter this week.

"We have just had our medical meeting and all the indications are that he is ready to go,' Davidson said of Ottens.

Davidson said the Cats were forced to take a cautious approach with Ottens over fears his groin injury could have developed into a full blown case of the dreaded osteitis pubis.


"We didn't want him to get to a stage where he would come back and play one game and then miss the next one," he said.

"He was tight through the groin but if he had kept playing and training it could have lead to osteitis pubis."

Ottens' value to Geelong in his first season at Skilled Stadium has been emphasised by not only his ruckwork but by the fact he had also kicked 20 goals for the season, including at least one major in his previous nine games.

"It's pretty hard to replace big blokes," Davidson said of Ottens' importance to Geelong.

The Cats are also expecting to regain the hard-running Corey Enright, who like Ottens has been sidelined since the round 12 clash with Adelaide, from a knee problem.

Enright is the likely replacement for David Johnson, who will miss up to a month after sustaining another hamstring injury last week, while Davidson said the Cats could make several changes to the team following last week's poor performance against the Bulldogs.

Amongst the players being considered for inclusion to take on the Bombers besides Ottens and Enright are goalsneak Shannon Byrnes and key forward David Haynes, who kicked six goals in the VFL last week.
 
Hope The Big O is back but will believe it when I see it - I have been disapointed for the last 2 weeks by his no show so will wait until I see him run out on Friday to pass judgement :cool:
 

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A half fit Ottens in the goalsquare would still be handy because he will always get the best defender.

Everyones job will be easier if Ottens takes Dustin Fletcher.
 
nananana catman said:
Kent plays better without Ottens in the team, when Ottens is there they bomb it long. Given Kents record against the Dons if hes going to play ruck him otherwise give it another week.

Ah, but Geelong plays better with Ottens in the team.

Not slagging off Kent, but I'd much he go back to his poor form if it meant our old forward line setup worked again and produced wins.

This is all of course under the impression that Ottens can contribute.
 
GeeCat said:
Ah, but Geelong plays better with Ottens in the team.

Not slagging off Kent, but I'd much he go back to his poor form if it meant our old forward line setup worked again and produced wins.

This is all of course under the impression that Ottens can contribute.


Why not just have Ottens ruck and Kent as full forward? Ottens is a better ruck than he is forward and Kent is in very good goal kicking form at the minute.

Our ruck department is depleted at best, so it would be ideal if you number one ruckman, which is Ottens, could play there. He got us back in the game last time almost single handedly (literally) when he went into the ruck.
 
nananana catman said:
Why not just have Ottens ruck and Kent as full forward? Ottens is a better ruck than he is forward and Kent is in very good goal kicking form at the minute.

Our ruck department is depleted at best, so it would be ideal if you number one ruckman, which is Ottens, could play there. He got us back in the game last time almost single handedly (literally) when he went into the ruck.


I don't think that bringing Ottens straight in and having him play a full game in the ruck after returning from a groin strain is a good idea. Even if he is 100%, he should be parked in the square this week as a precaution. I'd rather see Ottens not move from the square, except for maybe the occassional burst in the ruck to relieve King, and Kingsley start at his feet and lead out as he has been doing for the past few weeks. Ideally, they should be communicating with each other so that perhaps Ottens can work as a blocker for Kent so he can get an easy lead, much the way Lynch works for Matera at the Eagles.
 
Apparently there are two changes this week.

In: B.Ottens, S.Byrnes

Outs will probably be either K.Tenace, J.Rahilly or C.Thurley.
 
kriso182 said:
Apparently there are two changes this week.

In: B.Ottens, S.Byrnes

Outs will probably be either K.Tenace, J.Rahilly or C.Thurley.
I'd make 4 changes on the proviso that ottens and enright both come up...
ins/ haynes, byrnes, ottens, enright
outs/ thurley, tenace, egan, (1 of) koulouroitis, rahilly or sanderson

we don't need egan this week. scarlo for lloyd and I'd back either moons, rooke or dasher to take lucas.
 
jmain14 said:
I'd make 4 changes on the proviso that ottens and enright both come up...
ins/ haynes, byrnes, ottens, enright
outs/ thurley, tenace, egan, (1 of) koulouroitis, rahilly or sanderson

we don't need egan this week. scarlo for lloyd and I'd back either moons, rooke or dasher to take lucas.

No way does Egan deserve to be dropped.
I don't think Haynes will get a game with SJ back in the side.
Enright should comeback via the VFL.We can't afford to play him,SJ,King and Ottens.

My changes :
IN : Ottens,Monty
OUT : Liz and probably Rahilly
 

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JUBJUB said:
I don't think Haynes will get a game with SJ back in the side.

Probably true, but it's double standards.

If Snout had kicked 6 goals in the VFL he'd have a gold pass for life.
 
JUBJUB said:
No way does Egan deserve to be dropped.

Enright should comeback via the VFL.We can't afford to play him,SJ,King and Ottens.
regarding egan - you may be right but the reality is he is not in our 22. he will have to make way when we get players back. perhaps I have jumped the gun a little though - maybe wait until we get harley back.

don't agree with your thoughts on enright. if he is passed fit to play then he should. we desperately need him out there.

haynes should come in. purely on the basis he kicked 6 last week. thurley was ordinary last week. playing sj and thurls together would be pretty much the same as playing sj and dessy together wouldn't it?? not quite sure what you are on about there jubjub.
 
Plain White T's said:
A half fit Ottens in the goalsquare would still be handy because he will always get the best defender.

Everyones job will be easier if Ottens takes Dustin Fletcher.

If that is the only reason to play him then forget it. Fletcher will crucify him - you will be playing right into Fletchers hands, he still needs to be mobile etc. and lead that is why the great man KK has had the wood on him in recent games. Simply to quick. If Ottens cannot give 100% don't play him, we already have one big man ATM who is a liability with injuries
 
jacmitgee said:
If that is the only reason to play him then forget it. Fletcher will crucify him - you will be playing right into Fletchers hands, he still needs to be mobile etc. and lead that is why the great man KK has had the wood on him in recent games. Simply to quick. If Ottens cannot give 100% don't play him, we already have one big man ATM who is a liability with injuries

Ottens is playing and thompson has hinted that he will be spending most of his time in the ruck.

Source: http://gfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=218188
 
jmain14 said:
haynes should come in. purely on the basis he kicked 6 last week. thurley was ordinary last week. playing sj and thurls together would be pretty much the same as playing sj and dessy together wouldn't it?? not quite sure what you are on about there jubjub.

Look carefully and you'll notice I had 'Liz' [Thurley] as one of my outs.
Ottens would play FF and Kingsley would take Thurleys spot as FP or HFF.I can't see Des fitting into the side this week.
 
In : S Byrnes Ottens

Out : Thurley Rooke

But what would I know !!!!!!!


p.s. all those guys who bagged me for wanting Rooke dropped a month ago, I think I am being proved correct. He is just a battler who starts the season well because he works hard, but he really isn't good enough to keep his place in the side for the full year.
 
Jack-Packenham said:
In : S Byrnes Ottens

Out : Thurley Rooke

But what would I know !!!!!!!


p.s. all those guys who bagged me for wanting Rooke dropped a month ago, I think I am being proved correct. He is just a battler who starts the season well because he works hard, but he really isn't good enough to keep his place in the side for the full year.

Nah, you're still wrong.
 
JUBJUB said:
Look carefully and you'll notice I had 'Liz' [Thurley] as one of my outs.
Ottens would play FF and Kingsley would take Thurleys spot as FP or HFF.I can't see Des fitting into the side this week.
sorry man, my mistake. I must admit that I saw 'liz' listed as one of your outs but had no idea who the hell you were talking about and gambled that it wasn't thurley. after a couple of seconds of thinking I now understand why he has that nickname.
 
LongBomb said:
Good News.
With Ottens back in, the Great Man is sure to bag at least 7.
I hope so!!

at the start of the season I put $10 on him to win the coleman - I have no idea why I did it but I did. got him at $40. so he needs 7 this week, and 7 every other week for me to be in with a show.
 
btw, as soon as someone hears the official changes can you please post them on here. pretty sure this happens each week anyway.

does anyone know where and when you hear it first?? - is it via sen on 'the run home' or do they come out on the net before then??
 

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