Opinion Our Current Rebuild Will Ultimately Fail - Prove Me Wrong

[Pugsley]

The tallest KPD is around 195cm in most teams, who are the 200cm KPD?

Blokes like Lobb and Wright.

 

[Harris1991]

So what’s everyone’s thoughts on how the rebuild is going?

Hawks have gone past us…..

We have the talent both on and off the field to be one of the great clubs we just need "something" to click. Have faith, it has only been 26 years.

 

[adelaidecrows]

Blokes like Lobb and Wright.

King Brothers, Mckay, Thilthorpe, JUH

The trend now is KPFs will be 200cm plus in all teams within the next few years. A small backline is not going to end well.

 

[adelaidecrows]

We have the talent both on and off the field to be one of the great clubs we just need "something" to click. Have faith, it has only been 26 years.

Give Nicks another 10 years, with a complete list rebuild, he will get there.

 

[Pugsley]

King Brothers, Mckay, Thilthorpe, JUH

The trend now is KPFs will be 200cm plus in all teams within the next few years. A small backline is not going to end well.

Same with rovers. I think most will be around 178 cm. Gone are the days of rovers the size of Libba.

 

[Executive Landlord]

Brutal looking back on the posters full of confidence that the OP was a nuffy. Not many people would disagree now...

 

[ABAB]

King Brothers, Mckay, Thilthorpe, JUH

The trend now is KPFs will be 200cm plus in all teams within the next few years. A small backline is not going to end well.

So how many KPD are 200cm?

 

[Pugsley]

Plenty of water to go under the bridge yet. Whole worrying, only one of the players have conclusively failed.

This aged well.

 

[WeeBlake]

OP was right. Can’t afford to draft badly into and through a rebuild. We should have another 3 or 4 a graders.

 

[George Kramer]

OP was right. Can’t afford to draft badly into and through a rebuild. We should have another 3 or 4 a graders.

Easily, we had the picks, we just made extremely poor choices. That superdraft, Sholl is arguably our best player, Jones is just a dumb footballer, McHenry useless and Hamill can’t get a run at it.

 

[Doctor B]

So how many KPD are 200cm?

Durdin, Howard, Jones, Frampton, Pearce, Andrew, Andrews, McKay, Reid, Moore, Sam De Koning plays forward & back

 

[Mr_Moogle]

OP was right. Can’t afford to draft badly into and through a rebuild. We should have another 3 or 4 a graders.

I'm not that pissed off by the Gallucci pick because I could at least understand the traits they were looking for and though it was a bad pick, it's not earth shattering for a team at the top of the ladder to get a dud. In a sense that's the system working as intended.

Fogarty is a tick. It took longer than it should have because we're bad at developing players.

McAsey was a genuine bust who would have failed at any club. One of the worst picks in the club's history.

Jones and McHenry also busts. Both recruited to play midfield. One is a failed small forward, the other a failed small defender. Wasted a shitload of important game time persisting with these guys. I think you could mount an argument these were more damaging than McAsey. At least Fisher was shit enough to not get selected and didn't hold up someone elses development.

With Thilthorpe and Cook, I'm leaning towards poor development, not lack of talent. Pedlar's recent form was leaning towards a bust but he's had injuries.

 

[GreyCrow]

The rebuild turned left

I dont think our list is that bad - or I dont know how bad our list is

We expect the draftees to be perfect before we play them for 1 or 2 games

Thats not development thats stifling

How many players '' have gone backward since we drafted them '' how many times do we read that

Its not the players fault entirely

How Nicks and co continually blame the players and get away with it is crazy. Good coaches take on board that the players are not playing their game plan - but we continue the plan and blame the players but dont drop the players

Nicks has 2 months to blow the culture up but I fear its too late

I hate Cy Walsh

 

[Jirkago75]

We exceeded last year thanks to Tex having a super year and scoring at will. This year he’s been awful and we haven’t fired a shot. Not sure if it’s just Nick as the whole coaching group looks poor and not many players have developed. Surely we spend more money on development coaches in a rebuild to help the players, really not many have improved to AFL levels.
Only hope is we can grasp a gun midfielder this year and somehow get Sharp the year after, that’d be 2 guns in 2 years and become a force.

Think the whole club is poor from Olsen unable to get Thebarton done quick, instead of delay after delay. Our recruiting and development hasent worked well and then the coaching has been confusing. The selection as well of players doesn’t make sense, picking under performing senior players and not giving the younger guys an opportunity this year. Nicks is just too nice and will never succeed, need a ruthless streak to make it in the AFL, which he is sadly lacking


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[Sanders]

We’re 4-1-7

That’s not where you want to be 5 years in. With massive questions over the list and holes to be filled

 

[Vladdy Daddy]

We’re 4-1-7

That’s not where you want to be 5 years in. With massive questions over the list and holes to be filled

And this years draft/period feels like a fork in the road. They’ll burn draft capital for mediocre trades attempting to wall paper over the cracks, when we really need a cleanout and recruitment of elite talent throughout the entire the club.

 

[Pugsley]

The rebuild turned left

I dont think our list is that bad - or I dont know how bad our list is

We expect the draftees to be perfect before we play them for 1 or 2 games

Thats not development thats stifling

How many players '' have gone backward since we drafted them '' how many times do we read that

Its not the players fault entirely

How Nicks and co continually blame the players and get away with it is crazy. Good coaches take on board that the players are not playing their game plan - but we continue the plan and blame the players but dont drop the players

Nicks has 2 months to blow the culture up but I fear its too late

I hate Cy Walsh

There is a game plan?

 

[ABAB]

Durdin, Howard, Jones, Frampton, Pearce, Andrew, Andrews, McKay, Reid, Moore, Sam De Koning plays forward & back

So not that many and a few of those aren't even AFL quality players let alone AFL quality KPD. Most KPD are 195cm so I don't see any issue with our backline being "short".

 

[Soggy2112]

The list is in a reasonable position to start to contend by 2026/27. We just need the right person in charge.

 

[George Kramer]

The list is in a reasonable position to start to contend by 2026/27. We just need the right person in charge.

Not unless we get more quality mids

 

[1970crow]

If we're still built entirely around Tex, with Crouch & Laird the centrepiece of the midfield, with ROB, Keays, Smith, Murphy in the leadership group, and a first round mid like Pedlar has not been given a single game in the midfield in four years... was it even a rebuild?

Or did we just not win many games for a while?

From 2020. Nothing has changed at our club. Out of form and injured seniors push through because continuity and experience is critical when finals are on the horizon. Out of form and injured seniors push through because we're rebuilding and continuity and experience is critical to guide the kids. We retrofit decisions to match hard coded philosophies regardless of the phase we're in.

 

[1970crow]

Disagree, I think the next senior coach has something to work with given the extent of the rebuild Nicks had to do during a global pandemic. He can actually coached, the problem is he has proven to be very stubborn in his thinking and hasn't changed, hence he continue to make the same obvious mistake over and over again so there's no way he will change in his thinking.

The next senior coach will just bring the same philosophies as Nix.

 

[1970crow]

I think they are great, but we have a short backline for an AFL team. Nicks and the list managements fault.

Lack of height in our backline is not our problem. Speed across the deck is the problem when we concede fast ball movement between the arcs.

 

[1970crow]

It is when a forward line is getting up to 200cm per tall forward.

I don't think that oppo contested marks inside their 50 is a problem for us.

 

[ABAB]

Lack of height in our backline is not our problem. Speed across the deck is the problem when we concede fast ball movement between the arcs.

Isn't that meant to be Smith's weapon and why he is in the side instead of Hamill lol.