Paddy Ryder gets 1-2weeks for "rough conduct"

[Russian]

Watching it frame by frame he makes contact to the head and it was solid contact - medium impact is fair, but according to these revised guidelines after the Maxwell/McGinnity incident

AFL Tribunal Guidelines – Rough ConductIt is a Reportable Offence to intentionally, recklessly or negligently engage in rough conduct against an opponent which in the circumstances is unreasonable.
Without limiting the above, a player will be guilty of Rough Conduct where in the bumping of an opponent (whether reasonably or unreasonably) he causes forceful contact to be made with any part of his body to an opponent’s head or neck and instead of bumping, the player had a realistic alternative to:
a) contest the ball; or
b) tackle the opponent
Even if the player did not have any of these alternatives realistically open to him he may still be guilty of Rough Conduct if his conduct was unreasonable in the circumstances. In determining whether any bump was unreasonable in the circumstances regard will be had to:
- whether the degree of force applied by the person bumping was excessive for the situation;
- whether the player being bumped was actively involved in the passage of play;
- the distance the player applying the bump has run to make contact;
- whether an elbow is part of the contact;
- whether the player bumping jumps or leaves the ground to bump
In the interests of player safety, the purpose of the Rule dealing with high bumps is to reduce, as far as practicable, the risk of head injuries to players and this purpose needs to be kept firmly in mind by all players and will guide the application of the Rule.

I don't think what Ryder did qualifies as rough conduct. Medium impact isn't excessive, Dangerfield was involved in the play, Ryder did run a long way but I don't think it's unreasonable to do that when you're the nearest team mate to the guy with the ball, there's no elbow and he stayed on the ground.

 

[Here2tellyouwhy]

Re: Paddy ryder gets a week

this is the stupidest decision ive ever seen. bump a guy one inch to high get one week.
total rubbish and this sorta thing shits me to tears. **** the afl they're ruiening footy shame shame shame

 

[topdon]

Re: Paddy ryder gets a week

Worst decision i've ever seen. Essendon should fight this. If he has this charge sustained at the Tribunal, the game will have changed forever.

 

[Winner]

...

That was a perfect hip and shoulder, the player was within 5 meters of the ball.

 

[topdon]

Essendon will be appeal the decision at the Tribunal tonight. Could and should be the shortest hearing on record.

 

[Mitchell Madness]

the AFL decided after the maxwell incident, if you go out of your way to take a player out (even with a bump) you will be suspended. If you stand your ground and they run into you (ala Simon Taylor vs Carlton) you will be fine

 

[TassieSaint]

If he does not get off I will be sick. That was a textbook hip and shoulder, kids should be shown that as an instructional video on how to shepherd fairly but properly. One of the all time worst MRP decisions.

 

[tandino]

It would be a pretty simple hearing.

Essendon representative walks into the room, opens up his laptop, plays this:

[youtube]hsf-qADsO3E[/youtube]

...closes his laptop, "case closed", and walks back out.

 

[WALL-e]

No malice in it at all.

Bump looked fair, it seems the AFL are busting out the 'new' could have gone ball, went bump, head contact caused rule.

 

[TassieSaint]

Essendon representative walks into the room, opens up his laptop, plays this:
[Maxwell incident]
...closes his laptop, "case closed", and walks back out.

not to mention the fact that Maxwell got him in the face and broke his joke, Ryder got him in the side like you're supposed to and as far as I know Dangerfield is fine.

No malice in it at all.

Bump looked fair, it seems the AFL are busting out the 'new' could have gone ball, went bump, head contact caused rule.

Except that he couldn't have gone the ball, unless he was planning to rip it out of McPhee's hands. But I suppose the AFL reckons he should have just stood there and let Dangerfield tackle him.

 

[Power King]

Re: Paddy ryder gets a week

Incorrect on both counts.

1. Watch the second slow mo replay. At the point of contact it was a perfect shoulder to shoulder hit. The only contact to Dangerfields head was made after when he slipped slightly and also when his head jerked from contact. Are players now meant to take into consideration how much a players head is going to jerk before hip and shouldering them?

2. It was an option for Ryder to "allow" Dengerfield to apply pressure to the ball carrier? Go ask Matthew Knights if this was an option. One of the silliest thing's i've heard tbh.

lol regarding #2, I was being sarcastic.

 

[WALL-e]

Well shepparded I guess would be that instead on get the ball.

Will get off you'd imagine.

 

[Burzum]

Found not guilty.

 

[half_back_flank]

I still have a timy scrap of hope in the tribunal system.

 

[Hodgepodge]

Correct decision in the end.

No trauma was caused, but players have to realise that under the rules, all bumps are reportable if the tribunal deems there is an alternative action or if the bumper doesn't have the ball as his prime objective. Therefore if Dangerfield got a concussion, Ryder would've got a week.

 

[Minimum Chips]

Correct decision in the end.

No trauma was caused, but players have to realise that under the rules, all bumps are reportable if the tribunal deems there is an alternative action or if the bumper doesn't have the ball as his prime objective. Therefore if Dangerfield got a concussion, Ryder would've got a week.

How can the ball be his prime objective, if he's shepherding Dangerfield from getting to the ball carrier?

 

[tandino]

Correct decision in the end.

No trauma was caused, but players have to realise that under the rules, all bumps are reportable if the tribunal deems there is an alternative action or if the bumper doesn't have the ball as his prime objective. Therefore if Dangerfield got a concussion, Ryder would've got a week.

How did you come to that conclusion?

The offense is judged on it's merits, not on it's consequences.

 

[HAWKS HEROES]

he is clear i have just heard he is one tall guy i know that ! a nice one at that would not hurt a fly !

 

[2121]

Re: Paddy ryder gets a week

i'd give him two weeks should of hit dangerfield harder.

 

[Hodgepodge]

How did you come to that conclusion?

The offense is judged on it's merits, not on it's consequences.

Not anymore it isn't.

If you're not making the ball your sole objective, any trauma sustained to the opposition player's head becomes your responsibility.

It's the Maxwell-McGinnity rule.

 

[RustyHawk]

The MRP people should be ashamed of themselves. This should never have even been cited.

Totally correct decision.

 

[2121]

MRP are racists.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

The MRP people should be ashamed of themselves. This should never have even been cited.

Totally correct decision.

He DID make head high contact, so I fully understand why he was cited, so the tribunal could make a proper assessment.

But correct decision to acquit him.

 

[kelvin_sheedy]

According to Graeme Bond who told Healy and Russel on 3aw the AFL's prosecution advocate ran the line that Ryder breached the duty of care owed to Dangerfield because Ryder is a bigger player.

They need to shut that shop down and start again if that's the case.

 

[Daytripper]

According to Graeme Bond who told Healy and Russel on 3aw the AFL's prosecution advocate ran the line that Ryder breached the duty of care owed to Dangerfield because Ryder is a bigger player.

They need to shut that shop down and start again if that's the case.

WTF is going on there ?

Thats beyond ridiculous.