Summer Paris 2024 - General Discussion

[Teen Wolf]

Geez they ****ed that up. Imagine going to a closing ceremony and the best live content you get is 20 minutes of a 2nd-rate generic French band and some above-average karaoke.

Could've easily set up a faux beach stage inside the stadium for the LA acts to perform.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

get the athletics' medals first for medal count reasons

No.

They are going to use SoFi Stadium for the opening ceremony, then build 2 temporary pools, have a big curtain down the middle to hide the warm up / warm down pool and be able to sell 35,000 - 40,000 tickets for every swimming session, as it has a roof.

That's why athletics will be first and they will then use the LA Coliseum for the closing ceremony with a smaller capacity of only 70k.

 

[Kram]

Serbia V Croatia in the men's Water Polo final this should be fun viewing might see a few accidental fists flying into some faces.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_in_the_Water_match

 

[HirdsTheWord]

USA - 1 Gold per 8.3m people
China - 1 Gold per 35m people
Japan - 1 Gold per 6m people
Aus - 1 Gold per 1.4m people

Cannot be upset with that, for a small country. We pack a punch.

 

[scoman]

USA - 1 Gold per 8.3m people
China - 1 Gold per 35m people
Japan - 1 Gold per 6m people
Aus - 1 Gold per 1.4m people

Cannot be upset with that, for a small country. We pack a punch.

NZ - 1 GOld per 520k people

They went crazy!

 

[HirdsTheWord]

NZ - 1 GOld per 520k people

They went crazy!

i only did top 4.

Netherlands also did very very well.

 

[scoman]

i only did top 4.

Netherlands also did very very well.

Under? NZ had 10 Gold

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Under? NZ had 10 Gold

sorry i edited.

i only did top 4

 

[Bedi]

It's always a bit sad the end of the Olympics but it's been a good one.

 

[Jeremias]

It's always a bit sad the end of the Olympics but it's been a good one.

Don't forget the Paralympics.

We have a few weeks to sleep now but see you back here between August 28 and September 8.

 

[Gibbsy]

Geez they ****ed that up. Imagine going to a closing ceremony and the best live content you get is 20 minutes of a 2nd-rate generic French band and some above-average karaoke.

Could've easily set up a faux beach stage inside the stadium for the LA acts to perform.

Phoenix are pretty well revered in France and 'made it' around the world as talented exports, singing in English with French accents. They've been doing it for 25 years plus. Nothing second-rate about them!

I must confess I haven't seen their performance, but just commenting on their overall standing rather than whatever they dished up last night.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

My end of Day 16 final medals table vs medals handed out table.

Adjustments in Day 16 was the following;
Water Polo men's SERB 13G CRO 13S USA 13B
Basketball women's USA 12G, FRA 12S, AUS 12B
Handball men's .... DEN 16G, GER 16S, SPA 15B
Volleyball women's ITA 13G USA 13S
yesterday the women's bronze medal was award to BRA 13B and in day 15's total.

Notes for day 16 - Wrestling like all combat sports give out 2 bronze medals. 3 events so 3 extra bronze medals.

The impact of sports events handing out 12 to 22 medals per podium placing have had a big impact on day's 14 and 15 and will for day 16 results.

To the left is national medal count, to the right is medal count to individuals for that nation.

With out doing full reconciliation of multiple medallists, 30+% nations athletes have won a medal is highlighted in yellow,, 20-29% nations is highlighted in orange and light blue is for 10-19% nations.

This graphic I have highlighted these % for all nations as its near the end.

The Dutch are the big winners these Olympics, 40% of their athletes go home with a medal which is what USA usually achieve and I reckon its the first time China has hit this as they have won a lot more multi-medal podium placing events, and they won a team sports silver - women's hockey.







Team Sports medals

 

[Teen Wolf]

Phoenix are pretty well revered in France and 'made it' around the world as talented exports, singing in English with French accents. They've been doing it for 25 years plus. Nothing second-rate about them!

I must confess I haven't seen their performance, but just commenting on their overall standing rather than whatever they dished up last night.

They were fine but a 3-minute song, and then get off, would've been perfect. The performances also had more energy when the athletes were up on the stage around them, before they were kicked off (another mistake on the night).

Not revered as a big stadium headliner though, unlike the less critically favoured RHCP who played to 200 people on a beach. Strange decisions.

 

[Barrybran]

Phoenix are pretty well revered in France and 'made it' around the world as talented exports, singing in English with French accents. They've been doing it for 25 years plus. Nothing second-rate about them!

I must confess I haven't seen their performance, but just commenting on their overall standing rather than whatever they dished up last night.

I was listening to them thinking 'these guys are alright' and then 1901 came on. I checked my Spotify account and find I've already got three of their songs in my liked list.

 

[BobbyMorri]

The whole pre-recorded for the new city seems to be a thing now. I guess it is cheaper. Hope Brisbane can at least send some artists to the closing.

Honestly, I want LA28 to be as American as possible. Be Arrogant, brash, self-absorbed. It is not fun if it isn't. It isn't American if you arent. Be yourself. I was disappointed when Rio wasn't Brazilian.

 

[JP Sauce]

NZ - 1 GOld per 520k people

They went crazy!

We should Team GB it and go with Team ANZAC. Would be dominant and a clear 3rd.

Or Team Oceania if we want to win rugby by even more.

 

[eddiesmith]

I found Raygun’s inspiration for the Breaking bad performance, although I reckon big Dave would still have beaten her…

 

[The King!]

We should Team GB it and go with Team ANZAC. Would be dominant and a clear 3rd.

Or Team Oceania if we want to win rugby by even more.

 

[The King!]

Thought the closing ceremony was a bit blergh , but admittedly , I never enjoy them that much.

Sad it is over .

 

[The King!]

My end of Day 16 final medals table vs medals handed out table.

Adjustments in Day 16 was the following;
Water Polo men's SERB 13G CRO 13S USA 13B
Basketball women's USA 12G, FRA 12S, AUS 12B
Handball men's .... DEN 16G, GER 16S, SPA 15B
Volleyball women's ITA 13G USA 13S
yesterday the women's bronze medal was award to BRA 13B and in day 15's total.

Notes for day 16 - Wrestling like all combat sports give out 2 bronze medals. 3 events so 3 extra bronze medals.

The impact of sports events handing out 12 to 22 medals per podium placing have had a big impact on day's 14 and 15 and will for day 16 results.

To the left is national medal count, to the right is medal count to individuals for that nation.

With out doing full reconciliation of multiple medallists, 30+% nations athletes have won a medal is highlighted in yellow,, 20-29% nations is highlighted in orange and light blue is for 10-19% nations.

This graphic I have highlighted these % for all nations as its near the end.

The Dutch are the big winners these Olympics, 40% of their athletes go home with a medal which is what USA usually achieve and I reckon its the first time China has hit this as they have won a lot more multi-medal podium placing events, and they won a team sports silver - women's hockey.


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Your work on this board is impressive and outstanding , really enjoy your work.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

We should Team GB it and go with Team ANZAC. Would be dominant and a clear 3rd.

Or Team Oceania if we want to win rugby by even more.

Team GB suffers from the fact that in most sports they only play as individual nations.

Of the 8 team sports, ie 16 sets of medals up for grabs, team GB only made to 3 of them, the men's and women's hockey teams and the women's rugby team.

Hockey has a lot longer intergration of 4 home nations into 1 side.

It is tough to bring everyone together for short periods and try and qualify.

For individual sports its easier. You can send individuals to Manchester for their cycling program from Scotland, Wales and Northern Island to join their English colleagues as they dont go off and play as 4 individual nations at world championships.

 

[PonsfordMagpie]

This was Australia's 3rd best Summer Olympics in history in terms of Gold Medals won relative to the number of events.

% of gold medals at the Olympic Games

1956 (Melbourne) = 13/151 (8.61%)
2004 (Athens) = 17/301 (5.65%)
2024 (Paris) = 18/329 (5.47%)
1960 (Rome) = 8/150 (5.33%)
2000 (Sydney) = 16/300 (5.33%)
2020 (Tokyo) = 17/339 (5.01%)
1896 (Athens) = 2/43 (4.65%)
2008 (Beijing) = 14/302 (4.64%)
1972 (Munich) = 8/195 (4.10%)
1952 (Helsinki) = 6/149 (4.03%)
1964 (Tokyo) = 6/163 (3.68%)
1996 (Atlanta) = 9/271 (3.32%)
1968 (Mexico City) = 5/172 (2.91%)
1992 (Barcelona) = 7/257 (2.72%)
2012 (London) = 8/302 (2.65%)
2016 (Rio de Janeiro) = 8/306 (2.61%)
1932 (Los Angeles) = 3/117 (2.56%)
1924 (Paris) = 3/126 (2.38%)
1900 (Paris) = 2/95 (2.11%)
1912 (Stockholm) = 2/102 (1.96%)
1984 (Los Angeles) = 4/221 (1.81%)
1988 (Seoul) = 3/237 (1.27%)
1980 (Moscow) = 2/203 (0.99%)
1928 (Amsterdam) = 1/109 (0.92%)
1908 (London) = 1/110 (0.91%)
1948 (London) = 1/136 (0.74%)
1904 (St Louis) = 0/95 (0.00%)
1936 (Berlin) = 0/129 (0.00%)
1920 (Antwerp) = 0/156 (0.00%)
1976 (Montreal) = 0/198 (0.00%)

 

[AdelaideGT]

Lots more medal events now than there ever were in 2000.

And tons more than there were in 1956.

Still - a great effort in 2024 from our Aussie boys & girls.

 

[2 eazy]

Is Keegan Palmer youngest Australian to defend an individual Olympic title?
I noticed Quan Hongchan defended her Olympic title in an individual event at age 17 with her first gold at 14. Has there bee been younger

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

This was Australia's 3rd best Summer Olympics in history in terms of Gold Medals won relative to the number of events.

% of gold medals at the Olympic Games

1956 (Melbourne) = 13/151 (8.61%)
2004 (Athens) = 17/301 (5.65%)
2024 (Paris) = 18/329 (5.47%)
1960 (Rome) = 8/150 (5.33%)
2000 (Sydney) = 16/300 (5.33%)
2020 (Tokyo) = 17/339 (5.01%)
1896 (Athens) = 2/43 (4.65%)
2008 (Beijing) = 14/302 (4.64%)
1972 (Munich) = 8/195 (4.10%)
1952 (Helsinki) = 6/149 (4.03%)
1964 (Tokyo) = 6/163 (3.68%)
1996 (Atlanta) = 9/271 (3.32%)
1968 (Mexico City) = 5/172 (2.91%)
1992 (Barcelona) = 7/257 (2.72%)
2012 (London) = 8/302 (2.65%)
2016 (Rio de Janeiro) = 8/306 (2.61%)
1932 (Los Angeles) = 3/117 (2.56%)
1924 (Paris) = 3/126 (2.38%)
1900 (Paris) = 2/95 (2.11%)
1912 (Stockholm) = 2/102 (1.96%)
1984 (Los Angeles) = 4/221 (1.81%)
1988 (Seoul) = 3/237 (1.27%)
1980 (Moscow) = 2/203 (0.99%)
1928 (Amsterdam) = 1/109 (0.92%)
1908 (London) = 1/110 (0.91%)
1948 (London) = 1/136 (0.74%)
1904 (St Louis) = 0/95 (0.00%)
1936 (Berlin) = 0/129 (0.00%)
1920 (Antwerp) = 0/156 (0.00%)
1976 (Montreal) = 0/198 (0.00%)

Good to see someone else point this out.

Been saying it for years that we will never beat Melbourne's result - relatively speaking - as so much of Europe was still recovering from WWII and a big chunk of the rest of the world was too poor to worry about sports ie Africa and Asia in particular.

We had a great advantage on that front and that's why we could finish 3rd - behind USA who didn't see any war on mainland USA - Hawaii didn't become a state until 1959 - and the USSR with about 200m people back then, had been devastated by WWII, but just had a massive population base compared to Oz's then 9 million people, and had started their state sports system, which would later become very sophisticated.

Plus there were only 13 swimming events and only 7 of them were freestyle. We won all 7 and David Thiele the 100m backstroke. Today there are 16 freestyle events and 35 in total.

Could you imagine a games where Oz won all 16 freestyle events??

But yeah the broadcaster who has paid $300m just for the rights of 5 consecutive games has to pump it up as the best ever to keep the plebs watching and excited, pump up the ratings and get more ad $$$ thru for this games and future games to recover costs.

Still a great effort and basically on par with our best results this century ie 2000, 2004, 2008 and 2020.

The only down side is our national teams have dropped off. Only 2 medals compared to the 4 and 5 between 1996 and 2008.

Australian individuals received 121 medals in Paris. 16 of them won multiple medals totalling 44 medals so 93 out of 460 are bringing medals home.

In Sydney, 161 athletes took home a medal. 55 individuals collected 60 gold medals, 55 individuals collected silver medals only and no other medals, and 51 won bronze medals only.

Does that make Sydney the most successful absolute games??

The women's water polo team are bringing 13 silvers home and the women's basketball team are bringing 12 bronzes back.

I've been reading Greg Blood's blog site, an ex AIS / Australian Sport Commission historian and librarian for 30 years, for over 2 years. This article in June pointed out the success of our team sports post WWII.

Below I have cut and pasted from his article what Oz has produced since Atlanta as in 1908, 1964, 1968, 1976, 1988 and 1992 only 1 national team brought home a medal from each of those Olympics.

Haha looks like he updated it today for the Paris result. This is from Atlanta onward.

Review of Australian Team Sports at the Olympics and Paralympics 1908-2024 – Updated - Australian Sport Reflections

By Greg Blood The 2024 Olympic and Paralympic Games will be another test of the strength of Australia's Olympic and Paralympic team sports. Since 2012, there has been a decline in the medals won by Australian Olympic and Paralympic teams sports. From 1996 to 2012, team sports won more than one...

australiansportreflections.com

Year	1996​	2000​	2004​	2008​	2012​	2016​	2020​	2024​
Gold	1​	2​	1​	0​	0​	1​	0​	0​
Silver	0​	1​	3​	1​	0​	0​	1​	1​
Bronze	3​	2​	0​	3​	3​	0​	1​	1​
Total Medals	4​	5​	4​	4​	3​	1​	2​	2​
No Athletes with Team Medals	59​	70​	66​	56​	41​	12​	30​	25​