Summer Paris 2024 - Swimming

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This USA Swimming data link is useful for finding out rankings info and times over the years but its the only site I have found that has all the relay split times.

You have to adjust the criteria for what you are looking for and the tabs are there to find other rankings.









 
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Swimswam's first 3 previews. They give 2 of the events to Aussies. They go thru a breakdown of each main swimmer for each event but I will just copy and past their verdict and top 8 picks.



Women's 200 IM.


SWIMSWAM’S PICKS​

Deciding between McKeown, Douglass, and McIntosh felt like splitting hairs, but we ultimately went with McKeown because of how well-rounded her race is — she doesn’t have to worry about one stroke messing her mojo up in the way that it would for her competitors. In addition, she also knows how to pull through in close races, as shown through her backstroke battles with Regan Smith where she’s won almost every single time. However, all three of these swimmers could emerge as the winner in a tightly-contested battle. So could Walsh, whom we put at fourth solely because she hasn’t been at the same level as the top three seeds recently, but could still pull off an upset.

If there’s one thing that’s certain though, it’s that this event has gotten so much faster since Tokyo. Ohashi’s winning time from then (2:08.52) would rank eighth in the World right now, while Douglass’s bronze medal time (2:09.04) likely would not even final this year.

RANKINGSWIMMERCOUNTRYSEASON BESTLIFETIME BEST
1Kaylee McKeownAustralia2:06.632:06.63
2Kate DouglassUnited States2:06.792:06.79
3Summer McIntoshCanada2:07.062:06.89
4Alex WalshUnited States2:07.632:07.13
5Yu YitingChina2:07.752:07.75
6Marrit SteenbergenNetherlands2:08.912:08.91
7Sydney PickremCanada2:07.682:07.68
8Yui OhashiJapan2:09.172:07.91


Men's 400m Free.


THE VERDICT​

After a few surprising winners taking advantage of wide open fields, it seems like some order has been established in the men’s 400 freestyle. It’s hard to see anyone breaking into the upper echelon of talent that Märtens, Short, Winnginton, and Kim have established (plus Hafnaoui if he’s there). But then again, that’s the point of an upset, right?

But even if there isn’t an upset, there’s still plenty of room for surprise in this race. It should certainly be an exciting race between the top four, with other swimmers like Costa, Klemet, and Auboeck looking to break up the party. And given the times that we’ve seen in the last year, maybe the surprise won’t be the podium but the times that they throw down–do we need to be on world record watch for the very first final of the meet?

SWIMSWAM’S PICKS​

PLACENAMENATIONSEASON BESTLIFETIME BEST
1Sam ShortAustralia3:41.643:40.68
2Lukas MärtensGermany3:40.333:40.33
3Kim Woo-minSouth Korea3:42.423:42.42
4Elijah WinningtonAustralia3:41.413:41.22
5Guilherme CostaBrazil3:44.223:43.31
6Oliver KlemetGermany3:42.813:42.81
7Felix AuboeckAustria3:43.243:43.24
8Lucas HenveauxBelgium3:44.613:44.61
Dark Horse: Ahmed Jaouadi (Tunisia)


Men's 100m Back


THE VERDICT

Ceccon, Murphy, and Armstrong have been the three on the podium at the 2022 and 2023 World Championships. They arrive in Paris as the favorites for the podium and that’s likely where they’ll find themselves at the end of the final. Your mileage on the exact order likely varies by how much weight you put on factors like the distance between Ceccon’s personal best versus the rest of the field and Murphy’s consistency. We’ve decided to pencil Ceccon in for the gold but there’s certainly a case to be made for all three.

Xu is the best pick to disrupt the top three: he’s experienced, he’s got the hardware, and he’s shown himself to be on form this season.

Given how many times we’ve seen in the 52-high to 53-low range already this season, there will likely be a huge fight to make the final. The name of the game for all these swimmers: break 53 in the semifinals or don’t have the highest 53 low. There are several swimmers in this field that have shown flashes of brilliance but haven’t been able to put it together at the opportune moment. If at least one of them figures it out in Paris, there could be a major shake up.

SWIMSWAM’S PICKS​

PLACENAMENATIONSEASON BESTLIFETIME BEST
1Thomas CecconItaly52.2751.60
2Ryan MurphyUnited States52.2251.85
3Hunter ArmstrongUnited States52.6851.98
4Xu JiayuChina52.0551.86
5Apostolos ChristouGreece52.2352.09
6Hugo GonzalezSpain52.7052.70
7Yohann Ndoye-BrouardFrance52.9052.50
8Ksawery MasiukPoland53.0952.58
Dark Horse: Oleksandr Zheltyakov (Ukraine)
 

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Adam Petty's long term coach Mel Marshall will leave her coaching job in the UK and head to Griffith University Swim Club on the Gold Coast and take over from long time club and Aussie coach coach Michael Bol.


Rob Woodhouse, CEO of Swimming Australia, said in a statement:

“Swimming Australia is committed to best practice, and this includes our coaching appointments. Mel Marshall is highly respected globally, including in Australia where she has brought her team out for training camps for many years.
“Mel’s coaching successes speak for themselves, and we’re delighted that she will be coaching in Australia in the future. I know Mel will also be fantastic in developing the skills of many of the outstanding young female and male coaches here in Australia.
“Additionally, we want the best coaches in the world working with our best talent to develop our current and emerging talent ahead of the LA Olympics and Mel ticks all these boxes.
“But for now our focus is on the Paris Olympics.”

Bol anniounced his retirement of some sort as will take at least 12 months off, a couple of days before the trials started.

 
Great article about the 1924 Paris Olympics when Tarzan met the Duke and defeated him.

Duke Kahanamoku had won the 100m Free in 1912 in Stockholm and then after 1916 had been cancelled due to WWI he won in again 1920 in Antwerp. Johnny Weismuller was the favourite, had set the WR a few months earlier, but the Duke was the crowd favourite and they wanted to see the 34 year old win his 3rd in a row in the 100m Free.

20 year old Weissmuller won in over 2 seconds from the Duke and the Duke's brother Samuel finished 3rd. No 4x100m Free in those days just 4x200m Free.

The Duke become the first man to defend his 100m title, and first one to win 3 medals in the event until Alexander Popov matched him with gold in 1992 and 96 and silver in Sydney in 2000. Weissmuller also won in 1928 and Pieter van den Hoogenband is the only other 2 time winner of Olympic swimming's blue riband event.

Weissmuller also won 400m in Paris and the 4x200m in both Paris and then 4 years later in Amsterdam for 5 gold medals. Then in the early 1930's Hollywood came calling and cast him as Tarzan in several movies.

A few months ago I thought Kyle Chalmers was a good chance to win and join the exclusive club as he was in good form and Caeleb Dressel hadn't returned and young Romanian Popovici had a very quiet 2023.

But the world moves on and Pan of China, Popovici at the recent Euro champs, and Jack Alexy have passed Kyle this year. The great unknown is what would Kyle have produced at the Oz swimming trials if he didn't hurt his back the Friday before they started and got four cortisone in my lower back to help with the back spasms.

If he pulls of a win, then he deserved to be in that pantheon of greatness. And its probably worth $10mil to him over the next 30 to 40 years in cash and non cash benefits.





"The Paris newspapers were there to record the American invasion, most of the ink devoted to Weissmuller and Hawaii’s Duke Kahanamoku..."

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The Mixed relay is a bit of a crap shoot, and you need a coach or analyst who is very good with maths and combinations. In my predictions i said a bronze but with no real confidence. The Swimswam guys have done the maths with no allowance for a flying start.


 
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Some line up changes, people dropping events and as expected those who are going for events they qualified in, but just missed swimming Oz's tough qualifying time, get a gig.


Psych sheets for the 2024 Paris Olympic Games have been published and we’re combing through for surprises and changes from what was originally thought to be the game plan for the world’s top medal contenders.

The most surprising change to come out of the nation of Australia’s Olympic lineup was that freestyle ace Lani Pallister‘s slot in the 400m event now has Jamie Perkins as the partner to top qualifier Ariarne Titmus.

You can read more about this change here.

However, there were additional notable alterations to the green and gold squad that are worth taking a look at with action beginning just 15 days from now.

Matt Temple Entered in 200 Fly

24-year-old Matt Temple topped the men’s 100m fly at the Australian Olympic Trials to qualify in the event in which he is the 8th-fastest performer of all time.

Temple dropped the 200m fly final at Trials after taking the top seed out of the heats. His morning swim of 1:56.45 was well off the Swimming Australia-mandated selection standard of 1:54.97, as was the entire final field’s performance.

Temple had cleared the World Aquatics Olympic Qualification Time during the qualifying window, however, having notched a season-best 1:55.41 at December’s Japan Open.

Mollie O’Callaghan Dropped 100 Back

Although anyone who followed our Australian Olympic Trials coverage knew this was 99% sure of happening, Mollie O’Callaghan is not contesting the women’s 100m backstroke in Paris.

At Trials, MOC unleashed a time of 57.88 to finish behind former world record holder Kaylee McKeown, becoming the world’s 4th-swiftest performer in history.

MOC said after the race,” I don’t know (if I’ll compete in this event at Paris). It really depends on if I qualified for the next few events. I think that’s the main thing is just taking it day by day.”

MOC will take on the 100m and 200m freestyle races in addition to multiple relays while 2024 World Championships multi-medalist Iona Anderson will join McKeown in the 100m back.

Jenna Strauch Given 100 Breast Nod

As a final notch in her comeback belt, 27-year-old Trials winner Jenna Strauch has been given the nod in the women’s 100m breaststroke, despite missing the Swimming Australia QT.

Strauch, who missed the 2023 championships season due to a knee injury, clocked a time of 1:06.90. That missed the World Aquatics OQT of 1:06.79 but did clear the World Aquatics OCT of 1:07.12.

This is interesting in light of the fact that World Aquatics indicated that ‘B’ cut swimmers were unlikely to receive call-ups due to the overall athlete quota. What possibly worked in Strauch’s favor is the fact she was already named to the Aussie roster for women’s medley relay duties.

Tommy Neill Adds 200 IM

Australia’s 3rd-fastest men’s 200m IMer did not contest the event at Trials but Tommy Neill now appears among the Paris entrants in addition to his 200m free.

The Trials 200m IM winner was William Petric, whose time of 1:57.54 fell painstakingly shy of the Aussie OQT of 1:57.23 although it did clear the World Aquatics OQT of 1:57.94.

Neill now joins Petric in the event, with Neill owning a lifetime best of 1:57.41 from December’s Queensland Championships.
 
Summer McIntosh has dropped the 200m Free, giving up a potential bronze behind MOC and Titmus, so that she has all of Day 2 off and can compete rested in the 400m IM on day 3 after racing in 400m Free on day 1 and maybe swimming in 4x100m Free relay in day 1. Still has 4 events - 200 IM, 400 IM, 400 Free, 200 Fly the 4x200 Free relay and maybe 2 or 3 more relays.

Her full swimming schedule is in the story and if she swims in all the relays its still a huge program.


 
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Universality swimmers are like those in athletics, where they want to say 200 countries are represented and they let 1 male and 1 female swimmer in from each country for 1 event even though they didn't get close to the qualifying time.

Its why in Sydney you had Eric The Eel Moussambani swim and he barely made the 100m and his time was about 5 seconds slower than what the fastest swimmers swam the 200m in.

I was there that morning, there were 3 swimmers in the first heat, 2 of them false started, so they were disqualified from the race and their Olympics over in an instant. One was from Tajikistan and the other from an African country I think Nigeria. Eric was from Equatorial Guinea. Initially I was WTF, after the 2 DQs and then an even bigger WTF when Eric was struggling on the first lap, and I thought this is a joke, but then I joined into the spirit of it all with everyone laughing and cheering him on.

So that's why there are so many swimmers in the 50m and 100m freestyle for men and women, compared to other events. Between those 4 events you probably get between 90 and 110 minnow countries represented in those 3 events and maybe 40 others spread out across other events. There are 13 in the mens 400m.

In athletics 56 men had to qualify by time or world ranking for the 100m, but 101 have entered, and in the women's its 56 and 86 respectively, so there is about 75 minnow countries who are represented thru this process of having 1 athlete race.

Its a bit of the old Pierre de Coubertin Olympic spirit of competing not winning, and a lot of marketing for World Aquatics and World Athletics to say hey look at us we are a global sport that is represented by nearly every country and territory in the world.

 
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World Aquatics Paris page



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This USA Swimming data link is useful for finding out rankings info and times over the years but its the only site I have found that has all the relay split times.

You have to adjust the criteria for what you are looking for and the tabs are there to find other rankings.










Seeing Shane Gould's name there makes me sad from what she would have achieved had she not retired so young.
 
Seeing Shane Gould's name there makes me sad from what she would have achieved had she not retired so young.
Its a pity the amount of pressure that was out on a 15 year old school girl, caused her to quit at 16, found a greenie husband at 18 who in the long run was abusive, move to country WA, popped out 4 kids pretty quickly, and go into seclusion for 20 odd years, but she would have faced the drug fuelled East Germany and communist bloc swimmers in Montreal in 1976 and if she went to Moscow in 1980. Not too many swimmers went to 3 Olympics in those days.

Shirley Babashoff of USA, whom Shane beat in the 200m Free, ( but won silver to Shane's bronze in the 100m Free) found out the hard way in 1976, finishing 2nd to East Germans in 3 individual events and the medley relay. In Montreal the East Germans won 11 of 13 events and the Soviets clean swept the 200m Breaststroke and the USA women's team including Babashoff some how knocked off the East Germans in the 4 x 100m Free.

Similar story in Moscow, East Germans won another 11 of 13 events, Michelle Ford of Oz won 800m Free and the Soviets clean swept the 200m Breaststroke again, but with 3 different swimmers. Tracey Wickham boycotted Moscow, talk was the Fraser government gave her a big grant to do so, and she was favoured to win the 400m and 800m double. Her WRs were 2sec and 4sec respectively, faster than the winning times in Moscow.
 
Haha a bit after the horse has bolted but the 11 of the 23 Chinese swimmers that failed a drug test in 2021 and were selected to go to Paris, will be target tested and tested at least 8 times before they get to Paris.


In short:

Chinese swimmers competing at the Paris Olympics will face at least eight drug tests ahead of the Games, according to World Aquatics.

The announcement of increased testing comes as 11 athletes who tested positive for banned medication before the Tokyo Olympics are set to represent China in Paris.

What's next?

Results of the drug tests will be published by World Aquatics before the opening ceremony of the Olympics on July 26.
Chinese swimmers headed to the Paris Olympics will have to have faced at least eight drug tests this year, World Aquatics says.

The Chinese swim team in Paris is set to feature 11 athletes who tested positive for a banned heart medication in 2021, six months before the Tokyo Olympics.

The athletes avoided suspension and won three gold medals.

A Chinese state-backed investigation in June 2021 blamed mass contamination by food in a hotel kitchen, though without evidence to prove it. The case was not publicly revealed until reporting three months ago by the New York Times and German broadcaster ARD.

The World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) has been widely criticised — and targeted by a United States federal investigation — for accepting the explanation in 2021 when travel to China was not possible due to the COVID-19 pandemic.

A WADA-appointed prosecutor in Switzerland last week cleared the Montreal-based agency of bias toward China in a report that had a limited remit.

Swimming's governing body also appointed a panel to study how it handled the case three years ago, including following WADA at the time by not challenging the Chinese claim at the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS). The panel's 11-page report with recommendations was published on Monday, 12 days before swimming events start in Paris at La Defense Arena.

It detailed a promise of more anti-doping tests for athletes from some countries ahead of the Olympics, especially China. World Aquatics said "a certain number of athletes from specific nations will be tested four times" since the start of the year by the Lausanne-based International Testing Agency, which runs anti-doping programs for many Olympic sports.

Chinese athletes competing in Paris would "be tested by the ITA no less than eight times during this same period," the world swimming body said.

Those samples would ideally not be collected by the Chinese anti-doping agency and also not be tested by laboratories in China. World Aquatics is set to publish those test results before the opening ceremony of the Olympics, on Friday of next week.
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Usually the Chinese drug test their athletes prior to them flying off to an international championships. These are 'private' off the book tests though so they can say 'Chang Zho has withdrawn from the Games due to illness' if the tests come up positive.

Not that they are the only country to do this..
 
Just heard Mark Taylor say that he was keen to watch the Diving in Paris and that Australia's first medal in Paris could come from the women's synchronised divers in the 3m springboard event, which should finish about an hour before the first swimming final.

It reminded me that last Tuesday I found out that swimming events will be swum in a temporary constructed pool just like the US trials at Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis. I thought all the events were at the Paris Aquatic Centre, but only Diving and Water Polo preliminaries will be held there as it only hosts 5,000 people.

The Swimming and water polo finals are at the Paris La Defense Arena and can hold 15,200. La Defense Arena hosts rugby union games on astro turf. It holds 30,500 for rugby, they will build 2 pools there just like in Indianapolis and be 3m deep.

Chandler is an old 1980's pool and only 2m deep so maybe the times the Aussies were swimming underrated compared to their US colleagues at their trials because of the pace of the pool.

What makes a pool fast or slow.


First of all, a fast pool is specially designed to use deep water, effective lane lines and wave-absorbing gutters which help swimmers and produce faster times. On the other hand, slow pools are shallower with a construction that creates and reflects waves causing water resistance that slows swimmers down.
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This is a bit about the pool in Indianapolis.


 
Would love to see Kyle Chalmers become the 3rd but I don't think he will and Ryan Murphy in 200m backstroke is the most likely to do it.


 
Holy shit SwimSwam have tipped Kyle Chalmers to win the 100m Free. I didn't have the courage to do that.


The 100 freestyle is one of the marquee events in swimming. It was one of only four swimming events competed at the 1896 Athens Games, the inception of the modern Olympic Games.

A lot has changed since then, and a lot has changed in the last two years. After standing for 13 years, Cesar Cielo’s world record was finally topped by a then-17-year-old David Popovici. Less than two years later another teenager, Pan Zhanle, clipped the record again at the Doha World Championships.

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A MESSAGE FROM THE KING

Despite being wracked by injuries throughout his career, Kyle Chalmers has proven he’s still a force to be reckoned with. At 18 years old he became an Olympic champion in Rio, using a killer back-half to rise from 7th to gold. He wasn’t able to overcome Caeleb Dressel’s early lead in Tokyo, but still managed to tie his career-best from 2019 for silver (47.08).

Chalmers topped a Dressel-less field in 2023, winning his first 100 free world title in Fukuoka. That performance is his fastest of the qualifying period, slotting in at 4th on the preliminary entries. He’s been as fast as 47.63 this season and recently managed to put up a 47.75 at Australian Trials despite suffering from back spasms leading up to the meet.

Considering his longevity in the event and his ability to throw down clutch closing 50s, Chalmers is hard to count out despite never dipping under 47 seconds in his career. The race matters more than the times on the Olympic stage, and Chalmers is the only athlete in the field who has gotten it done before
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TIME TO RISE UP

Despite this field featuring the two fastest performers of all time, we’re picking experience for the win, and no man has more experience than Kyle Chalmers.

Our silver pick is Maxime Grousset. He has momentum, he has the hometown advantage, and Yanyan thinks he’ll podium so I will too. He’s also a big guy, so we have him passing both Pan and Popovici to the wall.

We’re giving Popovici the edge over Pan here, with the caveat that semifinals could play a huge part in the finish order. We’ve seen Popovici get bounced around by waves before, especially considering he prefers a back-half strategy, and if he gets sandwiched between two front-halfers he may struggle. Still, he’s been world champion before and seems to have an unflappable mindset. He should find his way to a medal.

SWIMSWAM’S PICKS

PLACESWIMMERSEASON BESTLIFETIME BEST
1Kyle Chalmers47.6347.08
2Maxime Grousset47.3347.33
3David Popovici46.8846.86
4Pan Zhanle46.8046.80
5Jack Alexy47.0847.08
6Alessandro Miressi47.6147.45
7Nandor Nemeth47.4947.49
8Josh Liendo47.5547.55


They have tipped McEvoy to win the 50m Free and Sam Short to win the 400m/800m double. If the Aussie men do win 4 golds then with the strength of the women, they will top the medal chart (by gold medal order not the yanks total order).

So far they have previewed 9 of the 17 men events and 12 of the 17 women's events.

They have given 6 events to the Aussie women - 100m Free MOC, 200m Free Titmus, given McKeown the 200m Back and 200m IM but not the 100m Back and the 4x100m, Free and 4x 200m Free. Havent previewed the 400m Free yet.


 

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