Patrick Karnezis - Waste of a Senior Spot?

[PicaBoo]

I can tell you with 100% accuracy that patty's brother didn't write that. I had to join this site to write this because the person who says its patty's brother has "unknown identity". The person most likely who says it was patty's brother is from that Facebook page.
In saying that some of what was written is correct. Patty never told bucks to get stuffed, but he is unhappy at lack of opportunity and wants out. Things he deserved more opportunity.
Patty loves the pies grew up loving the club and still does. The fact is he and bucks don't see eye to eye.
But patty would never tell bucks to get f'd. He is a hard worker and good kid. Just hasn't worked out at pies but that happens. Hopefully he gets another go elsewhere which he will if he wants it offers are there.
But don't read anything into that Facebook page saying it was his brother because its crap.

Thanks for that. From experience it is all too easy to fake things from and on social media.
Personally, I think that PK got the same treatment as Fasolo, who also got sent back to the VFL to hone his skills.
In the already immortal words of J. Marsh
"What I've figured out is, it's not up to you to get into the team. You can do everything right, but there's still the last hurdle of someone having to pick you"
It is what it is indeed. Shame if he can't see that.

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

I can tell you with 100% accuracy that patty's brother didn't write that. I had to join this site to write this because the person who says its patty's brother has "unknown identity". The person most likely who says it was patty's brother is from that Facebook page.

In saying that some of what was written is correct. Patty never told bucks to get stuffed, but he is unhappy at lack of opportunity and wants out. Things he deserved more opportunity.

Patty loves the pies grew up loving the club and still does. The fact is he and bucks don't see eye to eye.

But patty would never tell bucks to get f'd. He is a hard worker and good kid. Just hasn't worked out at pies but that happens. Hopefully he gets another go elsewhere which he will if he wants it offers are there.

But don't read anything into that Facebook page saying it was his brother because its crap.

I hope he stays. The worst player on the list will be worse than him. He is a poor man's Ross Brewer, forward and journeyman from the 70s and 80s at three clubs, betwixt or between as a game breaker type, but capable of dobbing a few goals. He averaged 2 goals a game as that medium sized forward.

Mend your bridges with him Buckley. Keep him.

 

[The_Anvil]

I think he has plenty to offer an afl team, and am of the same opinion as many that he deserved a call up. This one hurts a bit more as we all know he's been a pies fan from day one.

Wish him all the best if he does end up leaving.

 

[the mighty T]

Will be disappointed if he/when goes. Talent is there.

 

[Gone Critical]

I can tell you 100% it's not legit.

In a past life (maybe 6 years ago) I used to teach English at Marcellin.

There are nowhere near enough spelling mistakes (even with autocorrect) for that vent to have been written by a Marcellin Boy.

I love them. I love Patty K (despite never teaching him personally) but I'm calling bullshit.

BTW- I hope PK stays and think he's been hard done by.

I can tell you with 100% accuracy that patty's brother didn't write that. I had to join this site to write this because the person who says its patty's brother has "unknown identity". The person most likely who says it was patty's brother is from that Facebook page.

In saying that some of what was written is correct. Patty never told bucks to get stuffed, but he is unhappy at lack of opportunity and wants out. Things he deserved more opportunity.

Patty loves the pies grew up loving the club and still does. The fact is he and bucks don't see eye to eye.

But patty would never tell bucks to get f'd. He is a hard worker and good kid. Just hasn't worked out at pies but that happens. Hopefully he gets another go elsewhere which he will if he wants it offers are there.

But don't read anything into that Facebook page saying it was his brother because its crap.

Now this is more like it.

Spelling and punctuation mistakes aplenty. So are you PKs brother?

Who do you reckon Jason Wilde is? I am going for Malasani.

 

[1892]

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Ok, so Karnezis says he doesn't want to play seniors, but is happy to be emergency. My question for who wrote that piece would be why did the club give him what he was happy with (emergency) if he cracked up and didn't want to play. One would think the club would take a harder line, if you don't want to play you're not going to be an emergency sort of thing.


Certainly should have got a few more opportunities at senior level, but Fasolo who's his biggest competitor for a spot took his chance and had a good back half of the year. Fasolo's form also meant Elliott played further up the ground. The other guy who maybe in the conversation is Blair, but for mine he plays for his defensive efforts, so isn't really fighting for the same spot.

 

[MyManLynch]

Ok, so Karnezis says he doesn't want to play seniors, but is happy to be emergency. My question for who wrote that piece would be why did the club give him what he was happy with (emergency) if he cracked up and didn't want to play. One would think the club would take a harder line, if you don't want to play you're not going to be an emergency sort of thing.


Certainly should have got a few more opportunities at senior level, but Fasolo who's his biggest competitor for a spot took his chance and had a good back half of the year. Fasolo's form also meant Elliott played further up the ground. The other guy who maybe in the conversation is Blair, but for mine he plays for his defensive efforts, so isn't really fighting for the same spot.

If we take 'We want Moore' comments as a true picture, then we can ignore the BS about 'refusal to play' & major fall out with Bucks. However, he is obviously dissappointed re lack of opportunity & may leave for better opportunities.
I hope he stays & gives it another year at Collingwood. AFL footy is not easy & some players appear to have an easier road than others. Stick with it Patty.

 

[1892]

If we take 'We want Moore' comments as a true picture, then we can ignore the BS about 'refusal to play' & major fall out with Bucks. However, he is obviously dissappointed re lack of opportunity & may leave for better opportunities.
I hope he stays & gives it another year at Collingwood. AFL footy is not easy & some players appear to have an easier road than others. Stick with it Patty.

I do too as he certainly has some talent and externally seems a good bloke. He's only had 2 years at the 'pies the first of which was injury plagued, so I'd like to see him put in a good preseason and make the most of the practice matches. However it's also easy to forget that he had a couple of frustrating years at Brisbane too, which need to be considered as after 4 years battling for a game Karnezis would be itching for a decent run at it.

 

[Anzacday]

Thanks for that. From experience it is all too easy to fake things from and on social media.
Personally, I think that PK got the same treatment as Fasolo, who also got sent back to the VFL to hone his skills.
In the already immortal words of J. Marsh
"What I've figured out is, it's not up to you to get into the team. You can do everything right, but there's still the last hurdle of someone having to pick you"
It is what it is indeed. Shame if he can't see that.

Gotta love a young player with that sort of attitude or "I'll never let you down"

 

[Baltimore Jack]

If he goes, I don't know that we have lost that much.
Was always going to be outside the top 30 players

 

[left at home]

not shore what to think about this, if patty goes and does not fight for it [a place in the seniors ]
proves that its mental application and not talent that's holding him back. and may not make it at any club.

 

[DaVe86]

I think he is gone. Would have definitely played round 22 or 23 if the club saw any potential.

Not sure what has happened behind the scenes, but can only judge patty by his VFL performances and he looks really hungry.

I hope he hasn't cracked the dads about not been selected, because he had a wretched run with injuries last year so I think if he stays patient his chance will come.

But it was seemingly a similar story at Brisbane. Just couldn't break into the team and he decided to leave.

Somewhere along the line he needs to knuckle down and just keep patient. Otherwise he can go to Carlton and be guaranteed a game but lose every week.

He has a few deficiencies. He is not quick, only has an average tank, and doesn't work hard enough defensively.

He has clearly worked on all those points this year, as well as really developing a contested side to his game. Plus he has footy smarts. I think he is well placed to have a huge off season and push for senior selection next year. I think there is a spot open in our forward line.

 

[ant22]

The reality is at every club if you are not getting a game and you think you should be you probably don't like the coach. One thing I can say with confidence is a big chunk of the playing group love Bucks. I know Thats Gold disagress but this comes from the mouth of a player

As talented as Pk looks when he had his chance earlier in the year I didnt think he played with enough urgency or intensity. I can understand why others jumped the que based on those performances.

 

[cleomenes]

It's a tough row to hoe. Not everyone that thinks he is good enough is.
I'll wait till the definite list and trade offer information starts to come out before giving any credence to the rumours.
Fasolo earned his recall and has played well enough to keep his position. Karnezis will have to displace someone else, and there are not a lot of openings. He has to work and wait, same as everyone else. As far as I know, that is what he is doing.

 

[MeisterBot]

Karnezis isn't a waste of a senior spot, but I feel like he's being played in a position at VFL that won't translate to AFL, so his development isn't going the right way.

Karnezis ought to be developed as a HFF/Wing link up player, not the dominant midfielder that he is at VFL level. He won't ever have what it takes to be a centre square midfielder at AFL level, so why keep playing him there? Is it to build fitness?

Same goes for Kennedy. He was recruited specifically to be our Krakouer replacement. Why doesn't he play as a forward pocket at either VFL or AFL level? We are screaming out for a skilled crumber with pace, and Kennedy could potentially be that player. Why is he a support midfielder/HFF at AFL level?

Is it purely a result of poor fitness? They've been on the list for a while, so if that's the case, I hope the Club can straighten things out with them. I will say though that where Karnezis is now, is where Fasolo was at the end of last year. And Fas has managed to secure a best 22 spot since then. The opportunity for Karnezis is there if he's willing to work for it. I'm inclined to believe that facebook post is fake, but if it's real or even half true, it doesn't matter whether he's told Bucks to **** off or whatever. The biggest sticking point is that he's literally turning down opportunities to cement a spot in the team because he'd rather crack the sads. And that is not the kind of attitude that won't have him stay for long at any AFL club.

 

[We want Moore]

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How do you get off writing crap like that when you have no identity and clearly wrote that because you wanted to promote some crap Facebook page?

And the funny thing is people actually on here believed it! Because someone with "unknown identity" says it was his brother!

Bigfooty should cancel this twats account which is clearly linked to that Facebook page promoting false rumours.

 

[Chameleon75]

hyperbole

 

[JB1975]

How do you get off writing crap like that when you have no identity and clearly wrote that because you wanted to promote some crap Facebook page?

And the funny thing is people actually on here believed it! Because someone with "unknown identity" says it was his brother!

Bigfooty should cancel this twats account which is clearly linked to that Facebook page promoting false rumours.

I wouldn't get too worked up. If it seems that some people 'believe' the Facebook version of events then it's because it just seems to confirm their pre-existing perceptions of PK. Those who have a better and more optimistic opinion of PK would hardly be swayed by it.

Me, I just hope that PK hasn't dropped his bundle. If he has, it doesn't bode well for his professional career more generally, no matter what his destiny might be with Collingwood.

 

[PieBeast]

How do you get off writing crap like that when you have no identity and clearly wrote that because you wanted to promote some crap Facebook page?

And the funny thing is people actually on here believed it! Because someone with "unknown identity" says it was his brother!

Bigfooty should cancel this twats account which is clearly linked to that Facebook page promoting false rumours.

You're shooting the messenger.
And by the way, you have no identity either.

 

[Gone Critical]

How do you get off writing crap like that when you have no identity and clearly wrote that because you wanted to promote some crap Facebook page?

And the funny thing is people actually on here believed it! Because someone with "unknown identity" says it was his brother!

Bigfooty should cancel this twats account which is clearly linked to that Facebook page promoting false rumours.

Do you know Leigh?

 

[Unknown Identity]

How do you get off writing crap like that when you have no identity and clearly wrote that because you wanted to promote some crap Facebook page?

And the funny thing is people actually on here believed it! Because someone with "unknown identity" says it was his brother!

Bigfooty should cancel this twats account which is clearly linked to that Facebook page promoting false rumours.

Calm yo t***ies!

Firstly, this is a public forum and it is a discussion point.
People can choose whether to believe this or not.

Secondly, which FB page am i linked to?

and if i wanted to promote a FB page i did a terrible job of it because i didn't even provide the link..!?

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

If he goes, I don't know that we have lost that much.
Was always going to be outside the top 30 players

Obviously the club thought he could make the best 22 or he wouldn't have been traded in.

 

[jabbers]

I've watched him a lot of times and whilst he has obvious talent. He is a tad slow and simply doesn't work hard enough defensively for mind. Likes to get ahead of the ball. We have younger and better options.

 

[Baltimore Jack]

I've watched him a lot of times and whilst he has obvious talent. He is a tad slow and simply doesn't work hard enough defensively for mind. Likes to get ahead of the ball. We have younger and better options.

Yep, agree with this

 

[bucksisbest]

I've watched him a lot of times and whilst he has obvious talent. He is a tad slow and simply doesn't work hard enough defensively for mind. Likes to get ahead of the ball. We have younger and better options.

I think with Karnezis his pace at the top level is his major problem. You can be a squib and still be an effective opportunist forward/flanker, but the times I saw him this year at AFL level, it was like he was running around in clogs and he had no urgency.