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Looks like that's what they're trying for, not disputing the strike but that it was negligent not reckless.
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Dawes cleared - here's hoping it's a good omen...
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And if The MRT downgrade it to "negligent" he'll still be eligible for The Brownlow.
"[Pav] says he's aware of the differences between the definitions of 'reckless' and 'negligent', and says he's offended to be called a 'reckless' player given his outstanding record over 12 years of football. He has never been suspended in 240 games of AFL. Was reported once but was cleared."
Boom. How do you like them apples?!
Boom. How do you like them apples?!
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Both he and Dawes made strong arguments for themselves (Dawes being a law student and Pav having had years of media training - oh and he's awesome)
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Gleeson says the distinction between 'reckless' and 'negligent' is clear. If a player realises that he may commit a reportable offence and still goes through with an action, it is reckless. Negligence is breaching the duty of care owed by a player to all other players.
Gleeson also says it's clearly reckless. Says in approaching at speed and raising his forearm and elbow, he should have realised that he may have committed a reportable offence.
Gleeson also says it's clearly reckless. Says in approaching at speed and raising his forearm and elbow, he should have realised that he may have committed a reportable offence.
not looking like he will get off but by those definitions of reckless he is 100% not reckless.
His intention was never to commit a reportable offense.
His intention was always to spoil, he couldnt get there in time so chose to make him earn the kick like every coach tells them too.
Thus because he never planned to commit anything reportable it is negligent
His intention was never to commit a reportable offense.
His intention was always to spoil, he couldnt get there in time so chose to make him earn the kick like every coach tells them too.
Thus because he never planned to commit anything reportable it is negligent
Edited the quote a bit for comparison. If they find Pav guilty, their decision to let Judd go will only mystify me more.
Charge downgraded to negligent - Still eligible for the Brownlow!
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Mark Macgugan:
Tribunal has deemed that the offence wasn't reckless. Downgraded to negligent. Pav gets 45 points on his record and a reprimand. He's eligible for the Brownlow.
Tribunal has deemed that the offence wasn't reckless. Downgraded to negligent. Pav gets 45 points on his record and a reprimand. He's eligible for the Brownlow.
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Good news, moving on to 241 without ever being suspended that has to be getting close to the record?
I think we'll take that and head home, thanks.
Could have gone either way, but mightily relieved at this decision.
Could have gone either way, but mightily relieved at this decision.
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Happy it was downgraded, So Pav now gets 45 points on his record and a reprimand.
There's at least 25 in front of him who have never been reported let alone suspended.
John Rantall is the record holder with 336 games without being on report.
Gary Dempsey 329
Barry Round 328
Dick Reynolds 320
Marcus Ashcroft 318
Ben Hart 311
Wayne Shimmelbusch 306
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Wait? Does this mean he is still in contention?!
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Yeah he is Shibz, thanks for that quinz Pav really needs to pull his finger out it seems 
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Where do you find this shit? I bet you just make it up.
You have to wonder how many of those old school players would've made it through with no reports if they played with today's 400 camera angles and hyper sensitive MRP.
Don't doubt the stats just because you've never heard of any of those players Esti.
I got them from the AFL Record Season Guide. And you're right, when you can get reported for such soft things now it's unlikely any modern players will make that list.
I got them from the AFL Record Season Guide. And you're right, when you can get reported for such soft things now it's unlikely any modern players will make that list.
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Great news for Pav. I never doubted for one minute that the AFL system would bring down the right result.
Although eligible, he'll have trouble taking out the Brownlow if Fyfe stays hot.
Although eligible, he'll have trouble taking out the Brownlow if Fyfe stays hot.
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This is good news - must say I'm a little surprise. Though I didn't think much of it at the time, the replays didn't look great. I think his record must have saved him as much as anything.
