Perth glory- robbed

[Homer Jnr]

Fair enough, I accept that. I thought it was a bit uncool to post the result. I'm sure everyone here knows it, and knows it won't ever change.

That's understandable. Sorry if it caused any offence. Was simply going back to facts for Raymond. I thought I'd start at the final result and work back to where the variables came into play.

It was purely meant for the discussion that Raymond and I were having (and Bowie at times).

 

[CAS79]

It's hard to justify the game to potential converts now isn't it.

It must suck being a Brisbane supporter knowing you have a title that doesn't belong to you.

 

[Uncle Hank]

Usually have a lot of respect for Homer Jnr but can't understand the attitude or arrogance in this thread. It was a very poor referees decision, and I don't know how it could be argued otherwise.

Basically when it comes to admin and umpiring in sport, soccer = boxing. AFL is only a bees dik above when you look at the favourable run the Eagles have had in 2012 with umpiring. Big money and big betting controls sport worldwide.

Yeah, it's a conspiracy....clown.

 

[Rigby]

I was at the game and I feel for Perth, sucks to lose like that and the penalty wasn't ever there.

It's going a bit far to say Perth were robbed though, their one goal was an own goal and they were going into extra time with 10 men and hadn't had a shot on target all game. Brisbane deserved to win, it just sucks that it had to happen like that.

 

[Underdog]

I'm not going to say Glory were robbed. I will say however that Brisbane were gifted the title.

Absolutely farcical situation!

If the call wasn't made, we were going to extra time. I think Glory would have struggled being down to ten men against a more fluent Brisbane, but you simply never know. All it takes is one good passage of play and goal. Even if Glory were able to hold them off and go to penalties.

Ultimately, the difference is between having a chance, no matter how small or the final being decided by a moronic and incorrect call where you lose.

I'll agree that Heffernan was foolish but that doesn't excuse a terrible umpiring decision that denied Perth any chance of victory. Even with Heffernan absent in extra time, Perth still would have had some chance, even if it was very unlikely.

 

[Contador]

It's hard to justify the game to potential converts now isn't it.

Not really.

It must suck being a Brisbane supporter knowing you have a title that doesn't belong to you.

They are the best team. They were better on the day. It belongs to them.

 

[eddiesmith]

Brisbane must really be a favourite of the A-League, not the first game they have had the refs on their side

That photo posted earlier is a pretty bad miss for offside as well

 

[Defacto]

just off facebook:

Referee for the A-League Final Jarred Gillett is in a relationship with an employee of Brisbane Roar

theres more to this story that will come out this week. FFA is about to be hit with another shit storm

 

[red+black]

Sounds like a baseless rumour. Next we'll hear he killed Kennedy.

 

[Defacto]

Sounds like a baseless rumour. Next we'll hear he killed Kennedy.

given they cant even award the right player the BOG medal i wouldnt be so quick to write this rumor off.

 

[arkie]

I don't understand how some see that a penalty? If that's a penalty every day of the week then I'm done!

Will there ever be the possibility of referring to a video referee on every penalty decision? Heck, the NFL review every scoring drive.

It would be very easy to implement and would remove a lot of error and put less responsibility on referees.

 

[SPEEDWAGON]

There was no touch on berisha

I want to know how a referee can GUESS a penalty in the 94th minute of a final?

If there is no contact on berisha then the ref couldn't have seen it so he guessed.

 

[holy diver]

It seems some here want to invalidate the own goal. It came from a galloping and strong run from Mehmet. He ultimately forced the error. He was right there to tap it in but his presence forced their mistake. That counts as good as any goal. Shouldn't even factor in as a reason to say Glory do not deserve to be considered in with a chance. We had the MOTM. We controlled the midfield for large tracts of the game.

Also hypothetical are useless to determine a winner. Fact is a complete blunder determined this game, not the game itself.

The A-League managed to screw up their entire showpiece match. Mistake after mistake.

 

[maelcoluim]

Sounds like a baseless rumour. Next we'll hear he killed Kennedy.

Well it's been published by News Limited.

http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/soccer/controversy-from-a-league-grand-final-continues-after-final-whistle/story-e6frg26u-1226335683216

Following the game:

* FFA took the Joe Marston Medal for player of the match off Brisbane's Thomas Broich and handed it to Glory skipper and rightful winner Jacob Burns after an administrative stuff-up

* Burns revealed Berisha admitted to him that he was not fouled in the penalty decision that decided the A-League championship

* It emerged on Twitter that referee Jarred Gillett is in a relationship with an employee of Brisbane Roar

 

[questionable]

has no one mentioned yet that berisha was also clearly offside?

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Well it's been published by News Limited.

http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/soccer/controversy-from-a-league-grand-final-continues-after-final-whistle/story-e6frg26u-1226335683216

If true...how could he be allowed to umpire the match?

I'm not accusing him of being biased but surely there is a possible conflict of interest...

 

[PapaJ]

The A-League managed to screw up their entire showpiece match. Mistake after mistake.

People are saying this makes the A-league look unprofessional etc., but this has happened at higher levels than ours. It was a bloody disgrace by the ref and by Berisha, but it happens unfortunately.

What they need to do is start penalising players post match with video refs and tribunal type setups. I know it's going to have it's flaws, but it's rare these days to not pick up when a player has gone down by contact (even if they dive on contact) and blatant dives with no or inconsequential contact. If it's the later then a hefty fine and suspension will get players at least thinking twice.

 

[Puddy]

way to turn people off Soccer. ****ing disgrace

 

[Zidane98]

What an excellent grand final decided controversially at the end. Much prefer that to endless AFL footballers who dive head first to con a high tackle free kick. Don't listen to those with agendas against soccer, none of them were complaining when a Geelong player blatantly kicked a goal off the post in the 2009 Grand Final and cheated. Funny how the likes of Puddy don't have a problem with that but are up in arms over one incident about a sport they supposedly don't care about.

 

[freocuz]

What they need to do is start penalising players post match with video refs and tribunal type setups. I know it's going to have it's flaws, but it's rare these days to not pick up when a player has gone down by contact (even if they dive on contact) and blatant dives with no or inconsequential contact. If it's the later then a hefty fine and suspension will get players at least thinking twice.

Even better, why not have a video system where penalties are instantly checked like the third umpire in cricket? Looks like a penalty, give him a penalty. Looks like a dive, red card.

 

[Caesar]

People are saying this makes the A-league look unprofessional etc., but this has happened at higher levels than ours. It was a bloody disgrace by the ref and by Berisha, but it happens unfortunately.

What they need to do is start penalising players post match with video refs and tribunal type setups. I know it's going to have it's flaws, but it's rare these days to not pick up when a player has gone down by contact (even if they dive on contact) and blatant dives with no or inconsequential contact. If it's the later then a hefty fine and suspension will get players at least thinking twice.

Pretty much.

Didn't see the match but Jarred Gillett is a very good young referee. Was at junior nationals with him back when we were both kids, easy to see he had talent to burn. Was a little surprised to see how quickly he's risen, but then I think the FFA have him earmarked as being the next Mark Shield and are pushing his credentials pretty hard.

Not sure what the deal is with his girlfriend. Rules say that he should have disclosed it, and I can't imagine why he wouldn't have. I suspect that someone at the FFA figured it wasn't a big deal. The referees administration are under a lot of pressure to put their best referees on the best matches and as Referee of the Year there was an expectation he'd have the whistle.

 

[Hue_Jars]

I was standing in a packed out pub wathcing the game with 1000 other Glory supporters. When the bastard dived I thought everyone was going to riot. I can comfortably say this would of happened throughout Perth.

The number one thing spoken at the end of the the game was "s*** sport - last game I soccer I'll ever watch".

Its true. The game is riddled with corruption and cheating starting at the highest level, and is infested with greed. The rich clubs just get richer (overseas anyway). And infested amongst this is bad haircuts and soft attitudes. Someone hurts themeselves and they roll on the floor like a b****. AFL someone hurts themselves and they do their best to play on.

I'll stick to the other codes. Feel sorry for the Glory fans this morning to go out like this.

As for Brisbane - that is the one match Ill be at Perth Oval for next year....

 

[Smokin]

I have no faith in those that control the sport, but surely they can introduce a video review for all penalties?

It is probably the most important single decision to influence the result in all of sport which I can think of, and the game will stop for any sort of 'injury', really wouldnt disrupt any flow at all.

Same could be argued for red cards I guess.

But the cynic in me says the powers that be want 'control' of these "conrollables" if you get my drift.

201K watched the grand final on fox- pathetic for a GF.

Those running the A-league must be held accountable for the mess this competition has turned in to.

 

[Caesar]

I have no faith in those that control the sport, but surely they can introduce a video review for all penalties?

But how would you do it? You can review a penalty call easily enough because the ball is out of play. But reviewing non-calls is harder.

Do you stop play immediately? What if it's not a penalty? You've just ruined any momentum / attacking opportunity the team in possession had.

Do you wait until the ball is out of play next? That might be five minutes and several attacks (maybe even a goal) later and you can hardly bring play back then.

The main objection to video review isn't conceptual, it's working out how to actually implement it in a practical manner.

 

[Hue_Jars]

It seems some here want to invalidate the own goal. It came from a galloping and strong run from Mehmet. He ultimately forced the error. He was right there to tap it in but his presence forced their mistake. That counts as good as any goal. Shouldn't even factor in as a reason to say Glory do not deserve to be considered in with a chance. We had the MOTM. We controlled the midfield for large tracts of the game.

Also hypothetical are useless to determine a winner. Fact is a complete blunder determined this game, not the game itself.

The A-League managed to screw up their entire showpiece match. Mistake after mistake.

Well said