Perth Stadium (Optus Stadium)

[RedV3x]

You don't seem to grasp the fact that it wouldn't be charity, it'd be business.

It's not a business if you're paid $3 million to play.
It's not advertising if you're only attracting 6,000 to a game.
People already know Perth exists. how is this going to encourage more people to come to Perth ?
Maybe we should pay the the Sydney Swans and Giants to play in Perth then.
Heck, let's pay all the interstate AFL clubs to play in Perth for the advertising.
The interstate AFL clubs attract so much more attention they're a much better advertising bet.

It just doesn't make business sense to pay entertainment entities to play.
As i said before, if a business is good enough it will pay rent AND make a profit and maybe a little spin-off as well.

 

[hitthepost]

It's not a business if you're paid $3 million to play.
It's not advertising if you're only attracting 6,000 to a game.
People already Perth exists. how is this going to encourage more people to come to Perth ?
Maybe we should pay the the Sydney Swans and giants to play in Perth then.
Heck, let's pay all thew interstate AFL clubs to play in Perth for the advertising.

It just doesn't make business sense to pay entertainment to play.
As i said before, if a business is good enough it will pay rent AND make a profit and maybe a little spin-off as well.

Do you perhaps think that more people will go to a 9's tournament featuring faster rugby and all two teams in an exciting new stadium that everyone wants to have a look in, over a premiership game featuring only two teams?
It would encourage NRL fans to go to Perth to see their teams - or do you think nobody from Sydney went to Auckland for the 9s there?

Why would you pay the Swans and Giants to play in Perth when that already happens and people from Sydney go to Perth to watch, when they wouldn't otherwise go to Perth?

Do you think the WA government doesn't pay Tennis Australia to play the Hopman? They're not forking out for Ed Sheeran/Adele/concerts?

 

[RedV3x]

Do you perhaps think that more people will go to a 9's tournament featuring faster rugby and all two teams in an exciting new stadium that everyone wants to have a look in, over a premiership game featuring only two teams?

I would say stuff all people would want to watch a mickey mouse competition over a competition game.
If people aren't travelling to Perth to watch NRL, we know that because the crowd was 6,000
then what chance an unknown pastime in an AFL state ?
Crowds for both the rugbies have plummeted in recent times.
As I said before. If an attraction is so good (as you're suggesting) then it should be paying it's way.
The government has to stop throwing good money after bad.
They gave $millions to save the Force from traffic safety money and we're pretty sure that's gone down the gurgler.

 

[jatz14]

Do you perhaps think that more people will go to a 9's tournament featuring faster rugby and all two teams in an exciting new stadium that everyone wants to have a look in, over a premiership game featuring only two teams?
It would encourage NRL fans to go to Perth to see their teams - or do you think nobody from Sydney went to Auckland for the 9s there?

Why would you pay the Swans and Giants to play in Perth when that already happens and people from Sydney go to Perth to watch, when they wouldn't otherwise go to Perth?

Do you think the WA government doesn't pay Tennis Australia to play the Hopman? They're not forking out for Ed Sheeran/Adele/concerts?

Pretty sure they are not paying Sheeran and Adele. Why would someone come to Perth for an Adele concert, if she will be playing in Sydney.

There will probably be a few hardcore fans, or overseas fans, but not enough for the state to subsidise her costs, especially considering the many millions she will make.

This is the point people are making. If it isn't big enough that it doesn't need subsidising, then it probably isn't big enough to be worth subsidising.

I will allow that the opening may attract more attention than otherwise, but then that would apply to any event that opened. Why should the state give the NRL 3 mill, if a good part of the benefit of the NRLs event comes from the stadium itself?

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[Reynolds Number]

"Stadium Shocker" headline from The Worst was a childish headline from a paper actively campaigning for a NRL team in Perth. The NRL is actually trying to give a heads up to establish a base for a team in WA.

 

[Reynolds Number]

I would say stuff all people would want to watch a mickey mouse competition over a competition game.
If people aren't travelling to Perth to watch NRL, we know that because the crowd was 6,000
then what chance an unknown pastime in an AFL state ?
Crowds for both the rugbies have plummeted in recent times.
As I said before. If an attraction is so good (as you're suggesting) then it should be paying it's way.
The government has to stop throwing good money after bad.
They gave $millions to save the Force from traffic safety money and we're pretty sure that's gone down the gurgler.

The top two crowds at NIB stadium are NRL matches. 2015 Rabbitohs Warriors match is the only NIB stadium sporting event to sell out.

Lets not get on the high horse just because of one match poorly attended match in bad weather.

 

[wadistance]

The top two crowds at NIB stadium are NRL matches. 2015 Rabbitohs Warriors match is the only NIB stadium sporting event to sell out.

Lets not get on the high horse just because of one match poorly attended match in bad weather.

Some western Australians actually need to get out of their own state to see there’s more to life than AFL and Cricket and whining about everything

 

[Pea Nut]

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[RedV3x]

Some western Australians actually need to get out of their own state to see there’s more to life than AFL and Cricket and whining about everything

Is there ? Some people have to acknowledge that some sports are more attractive to watch than others.
I lived in Sydney surrounded by other sports and found Australian Football the best to watch and I'm happy
that so many people now follow the four AFL teams in NSW and Qld.
Sports aren't equal. Let's take a neutral subject and look at cricket.
Test cricket is dead because traditional cricket failed to make some simple changes to make it relevant.
50 overs came along and immediately rejuvenated cricket. Now even that's dropped off.
Now we have T20 carrying cricket's flag. How long will that last ?

What does a 6,000 NRL attendance show ?
It shows that there is no diehard support for the game and nobody is making the effort to come to Perth to watch.
It is ridiculous to suggest that any of the new stadium's capacity would be needed for rl9s.
People don't attend ANZ for H&A NRL games so why would a big stadium make any difference.
In fact you'd want the intimate experience of a rectangular ground that rl fans demand.

 

[RedV3x]

Lets not get on the high horse just because of one match poorly attended match in bad weather.

Just the opposite. You look at these matches to gauge true support not fairweather support.
If so many people are going to be put off by poor weather how many will be put off by a non NRL H&A match.

 

[hitthepost]

Is there ? Some people have to acknowledge that some sports are more attractive to watch than others.

And what sports are attractive to watch is a personal opinion.

I lived in Sydney surrounded by other sports and found Australian Football the best to watch

as you've just evidenced, opinion - YOU found AF the best to watch.

Test cricket is dead because traditional cricket failed to make some simple changes to make it relevant.

again opinion.

 

[RedV3x]

Do you think the WA government doesn't pay Tennis Australia to play the Hopman? They're not forking out for Ed Sheeran/Adele/concerts?

The government is not paying $3 million for the Hopman cup.
The Hopman Cup is an unique International event and it appears other cities want to steal it.
The NRL is asking $3 million to host an event because presumably that's how they have evaluated Auckland.
Auckland isn't Perth for a lot of reasons and they have been discussed before.
That event is longer worth $3 million to Auckland because they've lost interest understandably.
It would be worth changing to another New Zealand city but it wouldn't be anywhere near as effective.
They could try East coast of Australia with probably Brisbane the most desirable.
There's not much benefit in a WA or SA.

 

[RedV3x]

And what sports are attractive to watch is a personal opinion.
as you've just evidenced, opinion - YOU found AF the best to watch.
again opinion.

No facts.
Nearly 7 million Australians attend AFL at this years average of 34,000 per game plus ratings through the roof.
These are world class k.p.i.s that the AFL produces.
Australians have chosen AFL. They have alternatives to choose from and they have chosen Australian Football.
Where once there were other sports, Australians have chosen AFLW.
Australian Football is simply a very attractive sport to watch - FACT.
There are other sports, different types of sports, sports for different environments, team sports and individual sports
but when it comes to team football on a big grassy field then Australian Football is attractive.
Australian Football is attractive because it has the best elements from many sports.
It has the pass and completion so spectacular in American Football as well as the block, shepherd and tackle.
Australian Football has the short-passing, running and tactical kicking of rugby. It even has scrums and lineouts (almost).
It has more freedom of movement than soccer and you can soccer to your heart's content.
it also has similarities to another highly popular game in Gaelic Football.

Opinion - yes, but also FACT.

 

[Kwality]

Wont the first event pull a crowd because its the first event?

An NRL Origin game would pull the max TV audience across Aus & NZ regardless of when its played.

 

[hitthepost]

Wont the first event pull a crowd because its the first event?

An NRL Origin game would pull the max TV audience across Aus & NZ regardless of when its played.

This is what happened with Adelaide 7's - not because it was the first event at AO but because it was something new and different to Adelaide.
Also what happened with the opening of Stadium Australia in 1999 when an NRL double-header drew 104,583.

 

[frenchconnection]

Some western Australians actually need to get out of their own state to see there’s more to life than AFL and Cricket and whining about everything

I did - lived in Sydney for 4 1/2 years - As much as I liked Sydney as a city, give me AFL anyday over Rugby League!!

 

[BartBart]

I wouldn't go to a Rugby League game (or Ed Sheeren) if it were the first event at Perth Stadium.

 

[AstonSouffle]

Tbh, the people saying a Rugby League event would work here sound exactly like the people who say soccer will be the no.1 code in the country.

It's wishful thinking and it borders on blind arrogance.

 

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[RedV3x]

This is what happened with Adelaide 7's - not because it was the first event at AO but because it was something new and different to Adelaide.

Why would you put on a two day event that struggles to attract a combined attendance of 20,000
and has been moved to Sydney because of poor crowds especially when Perth is loosing the force.
Why play at a huge stadium designed for football when Perth Oval is more than sufficient with better atmosphere ?

 

[Kwality]

It's not a business if you're paid $3 million to play.
It's not advertising if you're only attracting 6,000 to a game.
People already Perth exists. how is this going to encourage more people to come to Perth ?
Maybe we should pay the the Sydney Swans and giants to play in Perth then.
Heck, let's pay all thew interstate AFL clubs to play in Perth for the advertising.

It just doesn't make business sense to pay entertainment to play.
As i said before, if a business is good enough it will pay rent AND make a profit and maybe a little spin-off as well.

A remarkable take on events worldwide ...

 

[hitthepost]

Why would you put on a two day event that struggles to attract a combined attendance of 20,000
and has been moved to Sydney because of poor crowds especially when Perth is loosing the force.
Why play at a huge stadium designed for football when Perth Oval is more than sufficient with better atmosphere ?

This is unpossible because it goes against your opinion but the first year they got 20k+ both days in a 30k venue, and the second year not much less.

 

[RedV3x]

the first year they got 20k+ .

Wow, that's fantastic we could farm that out to Joondalup Oval.
what would be that be about 1,000 per team average ?

 

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[StevenwellerHFC]

I won't be attending any NRL games, surely the WA government can't afford $3 million for that crap anyway.