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Pleased to see confirmation the AFL clubs are happy with the arrangements:
West Coast and Fremantle are happy with user agreements under which each will play 11 home and away games at the stadium. Both clubs want the deal done so they can begin moving members from the 43,000 capacity Domain Stadium to the 60,000-seat stadium.
The clubs want the flexibility to allow members to sit near the same people they did at Domain Stadium, making the seating allocations a more complicated process.
https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/wa-g...for-footy-deal-at-perth-stadium-ng-b88608015z
Interesting the articles use of 43k capacity at Subi & 60k at the stadium - what are the numbers the clubs are using?
West Coast and Fremantle are happy with user agreements under which each will play 11 home and away games at the stadium. Both clubs want the deal done so they can begin moving members from the 43,000 capacity Domain Stadium to the 60,000-seat stadium.
The clubs want the flexibility to allow members to sit near the same people they did at Domain Stadium, making the seating allocations a more complicated process.
https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/wa-g...for-footy-deal-at-perth-stadium-ng-b88608015z
Interesting the articles use of 43k capacity at Subi & 60k at the stadium - what are the numbers the clubs are using?
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Relevant to whether or not WA Tourism should pay for events at the new facility:
https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/why-perth-could-host-fewer-celebrity-events-ng-b88608084z
https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/why-perth-could-host-fewer-celebrity-events-ng-b88608084z
"Federer famously joined Colin Barnett at Cottesloe in the dying days of his premiership in what critics now regard as a missed opportunity because no one bothered to put a Perth or WA T-shirt on the tennis ace as the pair hit up for the cameras."
Yet this numpty Premier wants to sell the naming rights to the best stadium in the southern hemisphere for a couple million bucks a year.
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By building a world class, state of the art stadium, as opposed to a second rate venue shoehorned into built up suburbia like Labor wanted to build? And now this tosser wants to relinquish all the marketing this magnificent stadium can do for this state for a measly couple of mill a year? Don't think many will be voting for him next time round except for blind numpties like you.
Are you serious?
As a state we have lived beyond our means. Poor management has meant disastrous builds and wasted money everywhere you look. Even the stadium has the bridge fiasco which had to be renegotiated.
It’s great to have a beautiful new stadium, and I have more confidence in this premier that it won’t just be a subsidised venue for the wealthy. One of the ways that will be made possible is to sell naming rights.
If you have a couple of million to spare, go ahead and buy the name.
As for calling me a blind numpty, serious? You are clearly a stupid fuxkwit with no idea. The only people who vote for the likes of Barnett are the super rich who know they will be looked after, and the super stupid who think that failed businessmen make good managers.
Is that all you can do? You can’t even embed a YouTube video.
If you build an expensive stadium using taxpayers’ money and then make the tickets so expensive that only the rich can afford to go, then that is a case of taxpayers subsidising the rich.
If the tickets are going to be beyond the reach of the normal person, then I’d prefer that the ticket buyers paid for the real cost of the stadium. No subsidies.
Nothing to do with communism, which apparently you don’t understand. Shit, with your understanding, it’s a wonder that you can type at all.
Whose taxes paid for the stadium ? Those that can't afford a ticket paid **** all tax.
I assume the ticket price is set by the event, based on the deal they got from the stadium. So both are related.
Again, you show a lack of understanding.
The bulk of taxes are paid by people who earn an average wage. Richer people don’t pay the bulk of taxes, 1. because there aren’t many of them and
2. because they don’t pay their share of the tax burden. The rich have special arrangements to pay as little tax as possible. Negative gearing, trusts, offshore havens are obvious examples.
Because we have a thinking premier now, it is more likely that the prices for tickets will be as (or close to as) affordable as we get at Subiaco. I have no problem with a range of tickets going from affordable to premium (with exclusive opportunities such as boxes and special viewing areas), as long as families on an average wage can choose to go to a footy game as a reasonably priced option.
You seem to think that we should go the NFL route, where tickets can cost many hundreds of dollars, and normal people never go. In that case make ‘em pay thousands of dollars per ticket so that the stadium pays for itself.
That leaves the government in a bit of a bind. If it takes the view that it needs to recoup costs by driving tough deals, it makes high ticket prices inevitable. Trying to make the stadium more affordable by doing cheaper deals may not work however, as stadium users are likely to just take a bigger profit, than reduce ticket prices, especially if there is sufficient demand.
I understand how you view that the government needs to keep ticket prices reasonable so everyone gets a crack at using a public assett, but I am unclear how you propose they do this?
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Now you are just contridicting yourself.
It’s a balancing act, and I am sure that Barnett wouldn’t have given a shit and would have made that stadium an exclusive venue. The long term effect of that would be making footy less accessible and therefore it would decline as a spectator sport.
Too cheap, and the stadium becomes a millstone around everyone’s neck, or the event profiteers anyway. Too expensive and the stadium was built just for Barney’s mates and it becomes a millstone around the taxpayers neck, with no return apart from being a pretty building. Kinda like Dicky’s bell tower x100.
I think the only way to do this will be to initially err on the side of affordability, and go from there.
No I’m not. Can you read without your lips moving?
I think you are making a number of false assumptions here.
Firstly, average wage earners will pay a premium for tickets if they are fans. Like gamers who pay thousands for a computer when you can buy one for $600. People not really wanting a computer may not be willing to pay even the $600, but this does not mean they have a right to one at what ever price they are willing to pay.
It isn't average wage earners that will be the ones not going to the footy, but those that do not really value the experience.
Secondly, people with money do not spend it just because they have it. You cannot sell a $1000 banger to someone for $10 000, just because they have $10 000.
If you sell $1000 AFL tickets to the new stadium, the average fan cannot go, and the rich fan will not go, and the stadium loses money, not makes it.
Thirdly, there is no price point at which no-one will say it's to much, it doesn't make it a high price, it just means they don't really value sport, which is fine. However, a good Eagles game will likely sell out to committed fans at a reasonably high price, so you can drop the price enough that the curious and the casual want to go, but they can only get seats at the expense of the fans. How likely is it that the Eagles will drop prices just to enable casuals and tourists and the curious to push out it's own fans?
The NFL also does not charge thousands for average seats to average games, their are plenty of reasonable prices available, they only charge a premium for limited high value games or seating.
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Yes, I would agree with this, with the proviso that they cannot err to much on the side of affordability, as this doesn't really help anyone. Tickets become harder to get for those that really want one, and the club's end up subsidising the casual fan.
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Initially I was on the keep the name train but realistically, I don't think anyone in Frankfurt, Beijing, Dublin, Philadelphia, Cairo, Mexico City or Lima are going to be like "wow Perth stadium, I'm going to go to Perth now." it'll actually do **** all. <insert sponsors name> Perth Stadium will do just as well.
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I’m not sure if I am making the false assumptions.
If the tickets cost a $100 each or more, I imagine that loyal fans like myself will have to consider going to fewer games in a season. For some people that tipping point would be much lower, for others a fair bit higher. Available spending money would impact on that decision, as well as dedication of the fan. At Subi the option of going to only a few games has not really been available, so it will be interesting to see how that impacts numbers. I think it will affect Fremantle numbers more than West Coast who may still manage a season sellout, even with extra seating.
I agree with you about setting the price too high, but the place should never have been built if the price has to be too high for the average punter. I think that Barnett went ahead and built the stadium without thinking too much about how to pay for it. This stadium is going to cost the state for decades, even if it is the commercial and tourism success we all hope it will be.
Your third point suggest that if people aren’t prepared to pay, they don’t really value sport? I can’t agree with that.
By your logic, the fans will be louder and more passionate at the gf on Saturday than they were at the preliminary final. And we all know that won’t be true.
Footy is a great sport because barefoot kids in the Kimberley play it and because kids play it in Bushby street in Midland. It is an accessible sport that requires a ball and some space and a fair degree of skill. It maintains its position as the biggest sport in Australia because its a great spectator sport for people at the game, and a good spectator sport on tv provided there are good crowds at the game. Footy needs to maintain its accessibility, both for kids who need space to kick a footy around, and so that they can see their heroes play. Without this, the future Naitanuis, Walters and Petrevski-Setons won’t come through.
NFL is outside my experience so I accept that the expensive tickets arent the norm there.
