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Until you hug the boundary at Manuka and find that it's 2 kicks to the centre AND 2 kicks to HF...the width does a lot too.
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And take it out of the centre of the SCG and you can kick a goal. You are missing the original point that WA footballers are brought up on big grounds.
that is why WAFL football is attractive to watch. The women's league plays on WAFL grounds and in the long run that will benefit them.
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So coming back to where this started - why was anyone entertaining the idea that there would be the ability for PS to create a shorter field for AFLW, especially given PS is shorter than Subiaco and other WA grounds?
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I asked the question so ill answer
1) the footings are there for something, and ill be surprised if its for int rules (is it still even happening?)
2) scoring has been very poor in the womens comp. I wouldnt be shocked if the afl supported games being pkayed on smaller dimensions to make it easier to score. Cynical, but this is the afl
Why would you play AFLW at P.S. when obviously you need a near full house to pay for it ?
Why ? International Rules has had sellouts at Subiaco.
The AFLW is being setup as a stand-alone league.
So why would you play AFLW at P.S. when obviously you need a near full house to pay for it ?
The WA AFLW games were at South Fremantle Oval and there was a great sellout atmosphere there.
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Because int rules is hated by the irish comp, and the afl players refuse to play it
No irish and jake batchelor dont make a int rules comp
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Agreed IR is a "take-it-as-it-comes" proposition. If it happens there's never a guarantee it'll happen again after that. Even in Perth.
I agree scoring has been low, but the quality of the games hasn't as far as I'm concerned. Logistically it'd be difficult to reduce the size of a ground due to the posts and paint-markings etc - this would prevent matches being played as double-headers like the GF was, and some of the JLT matches. It also would be a bad image for the game, showing that it's "not as good" as "real" AFL as they have to use a smaller field. I think as the players become more professional and have better pathways to getting to the elite level the scoring will go up.
Is a sellout at Subiaco. It is ideal for the new stadium. It's an international event.
A two test series in Ireland this year.
The AFLW was of a good standard. It is played in short quarters with no time on. Most scoring is traditionally in "time-on".
The WAWFL is played on the larger WAFL grounds with less concessions and with higher scoring.
Scoring is not necessarily linked to quality. It can be linked to defensive pressure.
The AFLW is not going to reduce ground size. They will modify rules before that.
One way to increase scoring is to admit more teams and players creating more of an imbalance.
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Again, how do you host a game the afl players want no part of (the good ones anyway) and the irish assoc hates because we use it to poach their players?
Its not spectator interest that kills int rules, it the ones who provide the talent
Again.
It's a sellout. It's a financial success. AFL players want to play I.R. and like S.O.O. it's the clubs who don't want their players injured.
I.R. is hugely popular in Ireland as well with big crowds.
Why do you keep pointing out the people who dislike I.R. when people rock up and support the game ?
The fans like seeing their stars and the players like playing on the international stage.
Out of interest what is the length of Steel Blue-Bassendean Oval?For consistency, I've measured off Google Earth. May not be as accurate but at least I know it's all fence-to-fence. In general there's about 5m behind the goals and 3m around the boundary.
MCG 174 x 144
Subiaco 191 x 131
East Fremantle 203x 137 (however the GE image shows the goals are only 175m apart, there's room for an Auskick game behind each goal)
Adelaide Oval 179 x 130
Kardinia Park 180 x 128
York Park 172 x 143
Manuka 171 x 144
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Bassendean Oval:
Fence to fence:
Wing 140m
Length-wise: 201m
Boundaries:
Wing 130m
Goal to goal: 173m
About 5m between boundary & fence except behind goals (around 14m)
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There's no need to school me when you agree with me
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Because the people who dislike the game are the ones who make the decision about whether it goes ahead or not.
As has been pointed out, IF it happens people rock up. However if the AFLPA, the clubs, the coaches, AND the GAA don't want to play then you'll be hard pressed to get a sellout anywhere if the game doesn't bloody happen. Even if the players themselves do want to play, it takes two to tango and if the GAA doesn't want to, it's gonna be hard to make a team.
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Ohhhhhhh Yeeeeeeeah!!
The GAA and AFL like the game. The fans like the game. It's scheduled to go ahead.
What's with "if" ? It seems you do need schooling.
Amazing to see how far it has come.For the new page...
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You can tell it's going to be one intimidating place to come play.
The crowds just reflect the demand for our game & the failure of the AFL to address that demand.
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as i said before, not about the people or the afl. the GAA is paranoid about poaching, so they keep trying to minimize the frequency. the afl players dont want to risk an injury during preseason, so the AA players suddenly get "niggles" that rule them out (as they did with SOO)
See VenuesLive is looking at the catering contract, & that will be the source of many future whinges - the cuts to the Stadium Authority, the Stadium managers, the competing clubs & a modest margin for the caterer who will be accused of profiteering.
It is all headlined around the strength of the beer.
https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/fans-split-over-stadium-beer-ng-b88458998z
It is all headlined around the strength of the beer.
https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/fans-split-over-stadium-beer-ng-b88458998z
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And in spite of your constant denigration and it'd detractors I.R. is a success. Why do you go on about it ?
It's an international event that will most likely sell out the new Perth stadium. That's all that matters.
If you have been able to get close to the players and coaches you would see that they take it all very seriously.
The coaches and players take playing for their country very seriously and at the end of the last test it was the
Australian team that expressed a desire to expand the game.
Why don't you put your energy into bringing back S.O.O. or don't you want to see that either.
Currently the past and present governments are looking to pay for international sports events
and in IMO the figures simply don't stack up. The event has to generate 10x the outlay for the
government to recover it's 1/3 of the G.S.T. So that makes it 30x to retrieve the outlay.
Here we have an international event that's willing to PAY it's own way.
If you look at other codes you have to wonder if the support is there
in the light of Glory crowds, Force's cull and 18k to a RL test.
