Opinion Pick 5* 2024 – Who do you want? (profiles and consensus rankings included)

[Scythe94]

Just whipped up some 'consensus' rankings:

 

[Scythe94]

Worth remembering too that this isn't Twomey's phantom draft, it's just who he rates as the best players. Phantom draft comes later

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Think the other would be gone by our pick, no? That list is including Ashcroft.

Our choice of Draper or Draper at #5 oh baby.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

I know you didn't ask me, but I'll chime in considering they're my two favourites. I think Smith is more of a sure thing to become a gun AFL player, and I'd say he's perhaps the 'smarter' footballer of the two. Whereas I'd argue that, if both players reach their potential, Draper might be a better fit in terms of our skill deficits (while Smith is also pretty quick, Draper explodes out of stoppages and carries the ball more). Smith's disposal might (?) be a bit cleaner at this stage, but the metres gained damage will come more from Draper.

I'd be thrilled with either though.

Pretty much exactly how I feel. I think Smith is safe as houses, safest pick in the entire draft. I think Draper has a bit higher ceiling but a lower floor than Smith. Draper fits a bit better cause of his burst but its not like Smith isnt twitchy and cant run either. I really wouldnt care which.

 

[Grimey Sylvia]

I doubt we'd split pick 5 if anything we would be trading picks to get to pick 5, not the other way around.

Yes I agree they would, just sharing what I'd like to see. Hoping a team gets carried away and offers overs for a pick. Even sliding pick 9 back a couple of spots to get an early second rounder is appealing as I think we can still get a player we want and another quality player with it. Just where I see our list at.

 

[TheBoss]

Just bid on Kako to **** with Essendon and ruin their draft.

 

[Topkent]

I think we should take the player who ends up being the best, not that ****ing hard

 

[Grimey Sylvia]

I think we should take the player who ends up being the best, not that ****ing hard

Well, we are picking after Adelaide and then the saints who sure have found that hard to do which bodes well for us...

Although pick 9 came from Essendon so may be cursed already.

 

[Headless]

I think we should take the player who ends up being the best, not that ****ing hard

 

[ABray10]

Draper and Smith are the two top, but the way Draper moves through and out of the contest is unreal, plus he looks to have good vision and skills to really set a team up offensively.

Smith looks like a safe bet to accumulate a lot and use it well, no doubt looks like he will be a good player. Draper looks like he could be the kind who can just take a game away from a team though.

 

[ABray10]

Draper and Smith are the two top, but the way Draper moves through and out of the contest is unreal, plus he looks to have good vision and skills to really set a team up offensively.

Smith looks like a safe bet to accumulate a lot and use it well, no doubt looks like he will be a good player. Draper looks like he could be the kind who can just take a game away from a team though.

I shouldn't get excited though, could see both falling to our pick and us taking Armstrong somehow.

 

[mrmonkey]

I think we should take the player who ends up being the best, not that ****ing hard

I was going to say the same thing but didn't think it's worth feeding the troll.

 

[Crusty Demon]

Surely Draper doesn't get past the Crows pick. Still think Smith could be available at ours though.

 

[dazzledavey36]

From the Age.

Melbourne​

Arrivals: Tom Campbell (free agency), Harry Sharp (trade)
Departures: Angus Brayshaw (retired), Ben Brown

50

Ben Brown

Age

31

Ht

200cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.7

3star

K

7.7

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.2

3star

G

2.2

5star

D

7.9

2star

K

6.3

3star

HB

1.6

1star

M

3.7

4star

T

0.9

2star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.0

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

3.4

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.4

4star

G

1.2

4star

(retired), Kyah Farris-White (delisted), Lachie Hunter (retired), Alex Neal-Bullen

30

Alex Neal-bullen

Age

28

Ht

182cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.3

4star

K

8.7

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

4.1

5star

G

0.8

4star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

2.0

2star

T

1.5

2star

G

1.5

5star

D

10.0

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.4

2star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.0

4star

(trade), Josh Schache

19

Josh Schache

Age

27

Ht

199cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.8

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

3.8

3star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.3

3star

G

1.2

4star

D

6.5

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

2.5

2star

M

1.5

2star

T

0.0

1star

G

1.0

4star

D

10.2

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

4.6

5star

T

2.2

4star

G

0.8

4star

(delisted), Adam Tomlinson

20

Adam Tomlinson

Age

31

Ht

194cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.5

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.3

4star

D

15.5

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

5.8

3star

M

4.8

4star

T

2.3

3star

D

15.5

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.3

4star

(delisted)
Draft picks: 5, 9
Uncontracted: Marty Hore, Joel Smith
Contracted: 37 (no category B rookies)
The Demons addressed needs in the player movement period, adding ruck depth (Campbell) behind Max Gawn

11

Max Gawn

Age

32

Ht

209cm

Wt

110kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

6.7

4star

CL

2.8

4star

HO

35.3

5star

D

18.5

4star

K

11.5

4star

HB

7.0

4star

CL

3.5

4star

HO

29.2

5star

D

8.4

3star

K

3.6

2star

HB

4.8

4star

CL

1.0

3star

HO

15.6

5star

before trading for Sharp, who will get the chance to replace Neal-Bullen in attack. They have two first-round picks, as they did last year with Caleb Windsor and Koltyn Tholstrup, and will make three selections overall. Melbourne may not place a bid on Essendon’s NGA prospect Isaac Kako after trading for the Bombers’ pick nine. Midfielders Harvey Langford, Sid Draper and Josh Smillie could get through to their first selection, while key forward Harry Armstrong, defenders Alix Tauru and Luke Trainor, and classy midfielder Xavier Lindsay might be in the mix at their second pick. Hore will score another one-year deal, but Smith will be delisted. Judd McVee will be upgraded to the primary list, and Andy Moniz-Wakefield can no longer be a category B rookie.

 

[The Wrecker]

If Smith drops to five that would be unreal. His hands and work in traffic is freakish.

 

[Mich0]

Tauru is probably only tall I am keen on with Trainor concussion issues a concern and Armstrong excess to our needs now

Smith at 5 would be perfect

 

[Grimey Sylvia]

I think we should take the player who ends up being the best, not that ****ing hard

Well, we are picking after Adelaide and then the saints who sure have found that hard to do which bodes well for us...

Although pick 9 came from Essendon so may be cursed already.

From the Age.

Melbourne​

Arrivals: Tom Campbell (free agency), Harry Sharp (trade)
Departures: Angus Brayshaw (retired), Ben Brown (retired), Kyah Farris-White (delisted), Lachie Hunter (retired), Alex Neal-Bullen (trade), Josh Schache (delisted), Adam Tomlinson (delisted)
Draft picks: 5, 9
Uncontracted: Marty Hore, Joel Smith
Contracted: 37 (no category B rookies)
The Demons addressed needs in the player movement period, adding ruck depth (Campbell) behind Max Gawn before trading for Sharp, who will get the chance to replace Neal-Bullen in attack. They have two first-round picks, as they did last year with Caleb Windsor and Koltyn Tholstrup, and will make three selections overall. Melbourne may not place a bid on Essendon’s NGA prospect Isaac Kako after trading for the Bombers’ pick nine. Midfielders Harvey Langford, Sid Draper and Josh Smillie could get through to their first selection, while key forward Harry Armstrong, defenders Alix Tauru and Luke Trainor, and classy midfielder Xavier Lindsay might be in the mix at their second pick. Hore will score another one-year deal, but Smith will be delisted. Judd McVee will be upgraded to the primary list, and Andy Moniz-Wakefield can no longer be a category B rookie.

If we take Smilie at 5 and then Trainor at 9 I'm getting the pitchforks out.

 

[Demonic Ascent]

No idea who but please, a midfielder who can kick and preferably with pace.

 

[Undisputed]

I know everyone thinks they have found next Bont but Langford gives me those vibes , I really rate his kicking aswell.

 

[Andy_Mac]

I know everyone thinks they have found next Bont but Langford gives me those vibes , I really rate his kicking aswell.

I know nothing other than the clips, but i agree. just has some strong Bont. vibes

 

[Grimey Sylvia]

I know everyone thinks they have found next Bont but Langford gives me those vibes , I really rate his kicking aswell.

After being against any big body mids I have really come around to him for that same reason. Has a nice kick.

He can go long and penetrating but often see him lowering the eyes for the shorter pass or 45 degree inside kick and shows a lot of composure. While not quick, I wouldn't say he is slow and his 2k time trial was pretty good so can clearly cover the ground. Also like that he kicks goals, his height makes him dangerous up forward where he will need to spend some time early in his career.

He doesn't have the dynamic forward attributes of Trac but is a more natural mid at this stage than he was. He already has more strings to his bow than Oliver. If we draft him and he adapts to AFL pace ok then the club is far less likely to cling to Oliver.

Unfortunately I doubt he will last our pick but would likely push Smith or more likely Draper to us anyway so can't lose.

A Langford at 5 and Reid at 9 combo would be pretty special.

 

[Duke of Windso]

Josh Smillie should go at pick 1, as he is the "perfect person" to have at a club. At least, that is the opinion of the man himself.

 

[Praetorian]

Josh Smillie should go at pick 1, as he is the "perfect person" to have at a club. At least, that is the opinion of the man himself.


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Oh no Richmond, please don't take Smillie from us

 

[Bluelegs]

Josh Smillie should go at pick 1, as he is the "perfect person" to have at a club. At least, that is the opinion of the man himself.


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Good on him.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Josh Smillie should go at pick 1, as he is the "perfect person" to have at a club. At least, that is the opinion of the man himself.


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What a flog, I really wanted us to select him at #5 before this but now im out

 

[Grimey Sylvia]

What a flog, I really wanted us to select him at #5 before this but now im out

Such lies. If I recall correctly you wanted to trade 5 & 9 for pick 1 just to guarantee getting him. Generational talent you said. Big body mids only apply you said. Wouldn't even offer a puny player like Reid a rookie spot you said. I could be wrong though...