Opinion Pick 5* 2024 – Who do you want? (profiles and consensus rankings included)
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On exposed form, I'd rather see Laurie than Tholstrup in the guts
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The only reason for him to play in the middle is because we're desperate to see something different. I don't think he gets midfield time at most teams. Draft two gun mids and let McVee play his best position.
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Agree on the McVee down back talk. On Rivers, he has to be more than 50% mid time moving forward imo, he's that good.
Well we paid heavily for Tholstrupp. Assume intention for him is to play that mid-forward role.
Having Tholstrupp may make us pass up on Langford, do we really need 3 brutes playing the same role? 4 if you throw in Sparrow.
Speaking of Laurie though, think he needs more exposure and can provide us with a good point of difference. Looking forward to laser Laurie in 2025.
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I wasn't a a big fan of him in the middle. Was more Salem than Young
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I would have happily binned Oliver and Viney and played him more middle I just don't see out coaches doing it. More likely Salem and Sparrow go in
looked decent when he first went in, then regressed. Worth another crack next year but we shouldn't be banking on him.
He admitted he needed to work on his tank. I think the last couple of games he ran out of legs. McVee and Riv should be running all summer and both will greatly benefit. Riv showed enough imo.
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Yeah not giving up, just didn't offer as much as I thought he would
He can play that Nick Daicos role for us
Don’t you mean Daicos can play the Lazer Laurie role for Pies?
No... I'm looking for both, DP.
We're giving up a top 5 pick, so foot speed is the most required imv, along with the smarts... or the speed would be wasted.
A skilled speedy and smart player who can step out of traffic with ball in hand... And deliver.
We spent a lot of collateral getting our draft hand this year, so we need the type of midfield player we have least of...
The Ashcroft types.
I'll go thru the afl type players to imitate, from the draft:-
Neale, Daicos, Serong, Zorko, types.
IMO, the Bont and Cripps types are not agile enough, nor quick enough across the ground. They might be strong around stoppage winning ball, but only serve to add one paced types into our vanilla midfield mix.
Your right: we don't want someone with just foot speed, but can't break the lines... They have to break the lines with smart foot work. And with carry.
Then hit up inside F50's.
This is what I'm looking for.
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He could slip to outside the top 10. imv.
Top 10 has to have weapons, of some distinction. Over and above whats recognised as game breaking.
He hasn't the speed, nor from what I've seen, ruggedness, as he will be worn closely.
Too risky as a top 10 type, imv.
I think Lindsay and Travaglia would add some much needed run and carry for us, across the half-backline and thru mids.
My likes are jSmith, FOs, Lalor, Draper, /// Travaglia, Lindsay, Berry, Dattoli, Gross.... No particular order.
I would stay away from the huge bodied mids for this draft period. Focus on agile mid types.
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Next year ( 2025 ) i would go the other way, as i believe will will need to then replace Oli from our list... and think we will have the draft hand to again hit the draft for the bigger boys... inc Key types.
I think we will get a couple of high 1st Rnd draft picks for Oli, this time next year. and we should us them wisely.
IMO that would then be the time to draft another Key forward type/Tall follower ( 200cms )...
And also some bigger-bodied Mids. If our stocks look thin.
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I would shift him to the Wing Dr.
To replicate Brayshaw's old Wing/Defensive sweeper role. One step closer to a midfield starting position.
He still doesn't have that midfield build as yet, and maybe the tank.?
Tholstrup doesn't appear ready as yet, for AFL.
Lacks spacial awareness, getting caught too often in possession.
Maybe a stint at half-back might help him to work on this area.?
There are two reasons you just mentioned, as to why we don't want anymore one paced mids this year.
What makes you think he could play wing successfully? And better than Langdon and Windsor?
Who becomes our best small defender if he moves up the field?
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Yeah, i wasn't thinking of Langers, who returned to form last season. I had Lachie Hunter to the fore of my mind.
Maybe Windsor could do with some time at half-back. To learn that caper from behind the ball.?
I would not be against Tholstrup also having time behind the footy, for a half season or so, to adjust to the tempo experienced by backs, and to improve his awareness, which I see as a big issue for him in his development.
Re McVee, and a try out on the Wing position, It would show if he's got the tank for it firstly... and also if he can switch his mindset to a more offensive one where he can enter the centre-square after the bounce to assist the inside Mids.
It will show us where he truly is up to, at this stage.
I think Moniz-Wakefield can also play on the wing at some stage of his career.
It surely is becoming cutthroat in that position, on our list.
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Quite surprised that Draper has fallen to fourth in the poll. Is it because he's from SA, or because he's likely to be off the board so people are settling for Langford more?
Don't get me wrong, I like Langford, but Draper would be a pretty perfect fit for our midfield.
Don't get me wrong, I like Langford, but Draper would be a pretty perfect fit for our midfield.
Draper won't get past Crows pick unfortunately. He and Ashcroft are the two standouts to me among the higher rated kids.
I don't know, thats why he should go there as an opening to the midfield.
I think we have a host of kids who can learn the small defender role.
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I think you see us in a premiership window that's still open... and I see us as having a mini-reset, as our kids grow and learn, and our stars get older whilst teaching the kids.
Better to have the reset, than to continue down the pathway we were on, the past 2 seasons... where our recruiting was to bring in spare parts, and discount the draft.
We can relaunch from around 8th to 10th position, whilst we build our talent depth.
Instead of doing a Hardwick, leaving the cupboard near empty.
I know he is tied to an NGA but I'd still take a dip at Kako at pick #5 and see if the Bombers blink.
Best small forward in the pool and I reckon he'd make a good duo with Pickett.
All the good teams have a great group of smalls. I don't want to see us run it back with Chandler or DJ Shitboy as Pickett's running mate.
Best small forward in the pool and I reckon he'd make a good duo with Pickett.
All the good teams have a great group of smalls. I don't want to see us run it back with Chandler or DJ Shitboy as Pickett's running mate.
