Opinion Pick 5* 2024 – Who do you want? (profiles and consensus rankings included)

[Scythe94]

Updated Draft Tracker with combine results, talent league stats and consensus rankings

 

[Topkent]

I should clarify a bit, he certainly isnt as slow as Mich was saying, but I dont see the top 3 testing thats all I meant. What I do like about Allan though is the tools, can definitely see some upside in his game. The bombing doesnt concern me so much coz the ball gets there quick, its not a high looping slow kick. I think his kicking can be a real weapon.

Bruh I remember that one weirdo on here who was a massive Omac fan who found evidence he tested top 3 for speed in his draft year as well lol. **** me if he was anything like that on field the dopey campaigner

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Had a look back over Allan just then and I think Bluelegs might be right, there is more speed there than I was giving him credit for. Disregard the Tholstrup comp re: testing. Allan is quicker on game tape than Tholstrup was.

 

[Scythe94]

Fwiw, I'm still a Tholstrup truther. Think he's got the right mix of footy smarts, size and attitude to make a very handy player.

Doubt he'll turn out to be a full-time mid, but I'm still of the opinion that he was a solid pick. Obviously it looks like Wilson might have slipped through, but besides him, nobody really showed more than Tholstrup over the next 15 picks or so (non-Academy picks) last year.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Fwiw, I'm still a Tholstrup truther. Think he's got the right mix of footy smarts, size and attitude to make a very handy player.

Doubt he'll turn out to be a full-time mid, but I'm still of the opinion that he was a solid pick. Obviously it looks like Wilson might have slipped through, but besides him, nobody really showed more than Tholstrup over the next 15 picks or so (non-Academy picks) last year.

Will stand by my boy James Leake being the correct pick until the end of time. He was a skinny lad who was always going to struggle to get a game on a stacked GWS team in year one. I absolutely still believe he will become a player.

 

[Scythe94]

Rivers, Pickett, Langford, Allan, Windsor and Tholstrup (plus maybe McVee) would be a fairly handy emerging midfield mix if things pan out that way.

 

[Scythe94]

Will stand by my boy James Leake being the correct pick until the end of time. He was a skinny lad who was always going to struggle to get a game on a stacked GWS team in year one. I absolutely still believe he will become a player.

Oh I loved Leake too – IIRC, you and I had a similar lovefest with him to the one we have with Draper and Smith this year haha.

Just think people are a bit too harsh on Tholstrup. I liked what I saw from him.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Oh I loved Leake too – IIRC, you and I had a similar lovefest with him to the one we have with Draper and Smith this year haha.

Just think people are a bit too harsh on Tholstrup. I liked what I saw from him.

By people you mean me. (and Mich)

Im the biggest Tholstrup hater in the world.

 

[Topkent]

By people you mean me. (and Mich)

Im the biggest Tholstrup hater in the world.

I don't rate tholstrup long term either. Dont see him doing much outside of a hard working mid forward

 

[Scythe94]

By people you mean me. (and Mich)

Im the biggest Tholstrup hater in the world.

I'm guessing you're a short back and sides fan

 

[Scythe94]

By people you mean me. (and Mich)

Im the biggest Tholstrup hater in the world.

Anyway, I'll cop Tholstrup criticism more than I'll cop Windsor slander. The latter was such an obviously good pick to me – though that argument died pretty quickly for...reasons

 

[Scythe94]

Final version of the consensus tracker done

 

[GoDees69]

Bruh I remember that one weirdo on here who was a massive Omac fan who found evidence he tested top 3 for speed in his draft year as well lol. **** me if he was anything like that on field the dopey campaigner

That wasn’t me was it? It sounds like something I might say.

 

[Praetorian]

I do like Langford looking at his highlights again. He's a proper footballer, does the fundamentals very well, good marking, tackling, clean skills, finds the goals, not a brilliant athlete but works hard. If he can translate that left boot into an AFL level weapon he would be a bloody good player.

A bit Brayshaw-like but with better kicking. I can see why the Dees like him.

 

[Topkent]

That wasn’t me was it? It sounds like something I might say.

No it was either sando or someone with Davey in their name, it's someone who's been gone a couple years. Also you're a stranger and I don't know you

 

[GoDees69]

No it was either sando or someone with Davey in their name, it's someone who's been gone a couple years. Also you're a stranger and I don't know you

I’ve remembered the source of my OMac fandom. I watched about 15 minutes of training in January 2015, and OMac and Weideman were playing on each other. I decided both were close to generational talents and having the opportunity to train against each other would push them to even greater heights.

Took me a very long time to fully discard that idea.

 

[Scythe94]

Reposting for anyone who missed it:

 

[booshboy]

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surely we actually aren't considering taking a 3rd defender over this guy.

 

[Bluelegs]

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I know highlights don't show the full picture but he looks pretty good.

 

[Scythe94]

I know highlights don't show the full picture but he looks pretty good.

Basically, if he was a bit quicker, he'd be getting talked about at Pick 1. Great size, versatility, pretty evasive for his frame (which negates some of the speed concerns), launches the footy (overall kicking is really no worse than the other top prospects), aggressive, strong in the air, and kicks goals.

Tbh, he's probably just about the most well-rounded player of that top group. Whether he ends up the best hinges on improving his work below his knees, and whether the evasiveness/strength to break away from stoppages he showed in juniors translates to AFL level.

 

[Bluelegs]

Basically, if he was a bit quicker, he'd be getting talked about at Pick 1. Great size, versatility, pretty evasive for his frame (which negates some of the speed concerns), launches the footy (overall kicking is really no worse than the other top prospects), aggressive, strong in the air, and kicks goals.

Tbh, he's probably just about the most well-rounded player of that top group. Whether he ends up the best hinges on improving his work below his knees, and whether the evasiveness/strength to break away from stoppages he showed in juniors translates to AFL level.

Doesn't even look that slow.

 

[dazzledavey36]

No it was either sando or someone with Davey in their name, it's someone who's been gone a couple years. Also you're a stranger and I don't know you

 

[Scythe94]

Doesn't even look that slow.

His straight-line pace isn't great (as seen by combine testing) but he definitely has a few tricks that negate that, which—as a primarily inside mid—is mainly what you need.

I don't want to make the Bont comparison in terms of footballing ability, but there's definitely some similarities in the way they move (Jordan Dawson another one). Neither of those guys are quick, but they're smart and manoeuvre their big frames to get out of traffic and run + carry the footy.

 

[stEdy]

Yeah 20m combine testing for speed doesn't really matter if you're a pure footballer, know where the footy is going next and have decent 2km time so you can get from contest to contest. I'm keen for Langford

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Reposting for anyone who missed it:

I know its a lazy comp to make given tall and left footer, but there is a lot of Jeremy Cameron if he was a full time midfielder about him, even in the way he moves. . You got to love his marking. So clean, times his leaps well.

 

[Andy_Mac]

Yeah 20m combine testing for speed doesn't really matter if you're a pure footballer, know where the footy is going next and have decent 2km time so you can get from contest to contest. I'm keen for Langford

Yep, couldn't agree more. I bet Nat Fyfe is/was shit over 20m too... He goes alright.

Conversely i remember the full fapping i/we all experienced when Jack Watts did 2.79 or something wild. The only thing he ever ran fast from was physical contact.