List Mgmt. Pick #5 - Welcome Adam Cerra [Traded to Carlton for 6 & F3]

[PH Docker]

He actually hasn’t nominated a team yet has he ?
If not I would be going to either the Roos or the Hawks.

 

[freoextra]

As I said earlier in the thread, I am not buying that Carlton are the only club that can get Cerra now that every Vic club knows he is available. The Carlton only has been sold by the media but why would you want to go there.

For example, Richmond has recently parted company with two experienced players (that they were not expecting or shoved) that will release significant coin. They also have a better range of draft picks. What about Hawthorn, they could desperately use Cerra and both are preferable clubs to go to. The clubs can release other players to give themselves the chance to pick up Cerra.

We have just begun.

 

[salim malik]

Gotta love 'what ifs' and hypotheticals. Naughton would've been our saviour, just like Croad and Headland and Tarrant and Hogan and McCarthy and Hamling and Wilson ........... players always look so good when they play for someone else.

Like I said 20 odd years of draft stuff ups, glad you agree.
PS All the players you mentioned are not young draftees. All some one else's baggage.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

I didn't say they did, that was the point. Most clubs don't trade top 5 picks away after four years unless they have a basket case on their hands that they just want to get rid of. So there is very little precedent for being confident we will get top 5 plus value for Cerra, even though he's worth it. Especially with Bell's chequered history

I know you dont like Bell and I have reservations too but he's been fine on the trading players out part. We'll get their first pick and change no doubt

 

[Square Peg]

He actually hasn’t nominated a team yet has he ?
If not I would be going to either the Roos or the Hawks.

If he wants to return to Victoria, he might not want to join a club being relocated to Tasmania in a couple of years
But seriously, I also don't get the Roos being ruled out. Is it because they won't split pick 1?

 

[Purple Jesus]

Well. Can’t say I’m not massively disappointed.

Way to rip the heart out of Serong, Brayshaw and Darcy. Could have been anything.

I hope we absolutely bend over the target club with zero lube and a fist full of pineapples.

Certainly won’t be ‘wishing him the best’ either.

 

[Big Animal]

Well Cerra never actually said that. There are no guarantees Naughton is what he is if he was picked up by us and he still has a bit of work to do on his kicking. He was also a KPD at that draft, where as we'd only just stocked up at the defensive end with Hamling, Logue, Cox & Ryan in the previous draft and in that draft went for Dixon the pick after Cerra for a KPF option. While we could get sharper with our drafting choices, the context is important if you're wanting to go Captain Hindsight.

Actually Salim has said we should (have) select Naughton since before that draft AND we did the same thing last year in selecting Chapman even with Hamling, Pearce, Logue and Cox. Fact is, Cerra was a mistake, and Salim was right from Day 1, and we should have drafted Naughton.

 

[freo1997]

Apparently Freo, North and Essendon have the most coin to spend.

Knock on Norths door.

 

[dropbear101]

Brayshaw serong crowden swita i get a feeling its too many short people.

mundy and fyfe hell even banfield.

I get what your saying though. short term we are fine but long term that will be a problem.

 

[SandiHill]

So anyone still think he was Injured on the weekend??

Well clearly JLo gave him a corkie at training after he said he was leaving

 

[wild side]

Bombers put a line thru him

 

[kidstyler]

If Lyon takes over at Carlton what could we get for Walters and Cerra?

 

[Stevi_Tigers]

As I said earlier in the thread, I am not buying that Carlton are the only club that can get Cerra now that every Vic club knows he is available. The Carlton only has been sold by the media but why would you want to go there.

For example, Richmond has recently parted company with two experienced players (that they were not expecting or shoved) that will release significant coin. They also have a better range of draft picks. What about Hawthorn, they could desperately use Cerra and both are preferable clubs to go to. The clubs can release other players to give themselves the chance to pick up Cerra.

We have just begun.

He turned us down we offered 500k same as we offered brad crouch last year

 

[muckypup]

Really disappointing that this happens so often. Freo head to the draft. Adam Cerra, you are dead to me. A complete time waster.

 

[Taylor]

If Lyon takes over at Carlton what could we get for Walters and Cerra?

#6, #25 and their 2021 1st round pick.

 

[Crazy Train]

Good riddance you impatient weak campaigner. Have fun in miserable Melbourne with lockdowns every couple of weeks at ya shit new club! Power of the lives on

 

[Square Peg]

I know you dont like Bell and I have reservations too but he's been fine on the trading players out part. We'll get their first pick and change no doubt

Really, you have no doubt we'll get pick 6? I have some doubt.

 

[Tonga Bob]

I dont think we've lost a player for unders except for maybe Langdon. We get decent compo for the players we lose. Not sure if your serious but none of them have anywhere near the performances Cerra has on the board and Stringer was doing all kinds of nasty things at the Dogs

Hogan, J.

 

[Tony_Clifton]

Cerra said he didn't want to come to WA.
Allen was also available. Houghton wasn't the only Kpp.
It was another case of Freo taking a mid and ignoring the need for kpp's.
Again it's bitten us on the bum.
Hopefully this time the club realises that for 20 odd years they have **cked up .

We would have taken Brander before oa just like West Coast did

 

[dropbear101]

its a blessing in disguise. nothing is now stopping crowden's ascent to the midfield now.

pictured below is live visuals of opposition teams reacting to this news.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Really, you have no doubt we'll get pick 6? I have some doubt.

We’ll get pick 6 if it’s Carlton, I have no doubt

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Hogan, J.

Sort of true, when you push a guy out you get absolutely nothing for them though

 

[arsesmart]

Actually Salim has said we should (have) select Naughton since before that draft AND we did the same thing last year in selecting Chapman even with Hamling, Pearce, Logue and Cox. Fact is, Cerra was a mistake, and Salim was right from Day 1, and we should have drafted Naughton.

Doesn't matter too much what anyone said at the time, it's whether the logic to back it up at the time is solid. Given the limited information we have I don't really give too much credit for anyone's 1 that turns out a champ, because there are generally 4 or 5 more they've really really wanted who have faded into obscurity.

Chapman was selected at 14 and there's no guarantees they wouldn't have picked someone else if they had that #8 pick or whatever. Also we had mids on the books in Brayshaw, Serrong, Cerra etc and things change and we'll see how that selection goes. Ultimately though drafting is a calculated risk.

 

[Tonga Bob]

Sorry for the intrusion guys. I come in peace.
Just wondering what you guys think of a possible trade deal of... (ins and outs from a Carlton perspective obviously)

Out: Pick 6 might drop to #8 with a couple of f/son and academy bids), SPS (seems his papers are stamped after not playing the last 3-4 weeks)
In: Cerra, Freo's 2nd rounder (currently #27, but could drift to low-mid 30's)

I loath to lose SPS, especially if we have a new coach coming in. I also would hate to lose Fisher, but he would be my preference if I had a choice. I used SPS simply because his papers seemed to be stamped for whatever reason. Still think he will go on to be a great player if given the chance to play as a midfielder or high HFF.
Reckon you guys will possibly think it's slight unders and most Blues fans probably think it's slight overs, which usually means it's a pretty good deal for both sides if both feel ripped off.

 

[Tonga Bob]

Sort of true, when you push a guy out you get absolutely nothing for them though

Outstanding ROI