You are clearly speaking in defence of Dawes and Wellingham, so can you give me a straight answer? If it was offered would you trade them for a first round pick?
A better question is would you give up a first round pick to get them back?
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You are clearly speaking in defence of Dawes and Wellingham, so can you give me a straight answer? If it was offered would you trade them for a first round pick?
The first one, my recollection, was Leon being a mile away from Varcoe who seized on the opportunity when the ball came his way. Poor defence. The second I'll have to take your word for since i can't bring myself to watch the game again. I was at the game so not sure what I missed on TV.
His role is under rated unless you have a midfield full of guns and the opposition have to do all the tagging. That's basically us in 2010 but sure as hell now we need a tagger. Even the Geelong flag sides had Lyng to call on when needed although he was always a lot more than just a tagger.
Given the way gun opposition mids have killed us over the years I'd say his role is underrated.
Can we get them back at the same age they left too?A better question is would you give up a first round pick to get them back?
FMD or course he lies if that's your definition of lying. It's justification. It happens all the time and Eddie deos it in his sleep. He's hardly alone though.
Depends which club they went to. At Hawthorn look at Cegalr. He be delisted if he went to the Dees or a West Coast. Hawks know how to get the best out of them.What else have you got to go by, other that what they do after they leave? What you imagine they might have done if they stayed?
YepCan we get them back at the same age they left too?
Why not. At that age. Thomas I had no problem letting go given his already troubled ankle. But no way I'd sell the two premiership players in Wellingham and Dawes.
Depends which club they went to. At Hawthorn look at Cegalr. He be delisted if he went to the Dees or a West Coast. Hawks know how to get the best out of them.
Can we not recruit Lynch too. Thanks. X
Well it's hard to be surrounded by gun premiership players at Collingwood when we keep trading them away.It helps when you are surrounded by gun mids. Which one of Witts or Grundy would you swap for Ceglar?
Well it's hard to be surrounded by gun premiership players at Collingwood when we keep trading them away.
Well it's hard to be surrounded by gun premiership players at Collingwood when we keep trading them away.
Why not. At that age. Thomas I had no problem letting go given his already troubled ankle. But no way I'd sell the two premiership players in Wellingham and Dawes.
It's not a nil all draw if the opposition player is imortant to their game plan which is the only reason he'd be tagged. Ask Chris Scott if he thinks Cameron Ling tagging swan in the 2011 GF was a nil all draw. It won them the flag. There is no more of a win than that.When Maccaffer shut down an opposition player, its a nil all draw. The opposition are basiccally playing a player less and we are playing a player less. When Maccaffer loses his battle we are basically playing a player down.
Can we have Dawes and Wellingham back cira 2012. Yes. Play 2013 and 2014 with them both in the team. Yes yes yes. Have them ready to go in 2015. Yes yes yes.I don't think you understood the question.
Josh Kennedy and Ben McGlynn say hello.Depends which club they went to. At Hawthorn look at Cegalr. He be delisted if he went to the Dees or a West Coast. Hawks know how to get the best out of them.
Can we have Dawes and Wellingham back cira 2012. Yes. Play 2013 and 2014 with them both in the team. Yes yes yes. Have them ready to go in 2015. Yes yes yes.
Add Heath Shaw to our team while we are it. Yes!
Can we have Dawes and Wellingham back cira 2012. Yes. Play 2013 and 2014 with them both in the team. Yes yes yes. Have them ready to go in 2015. Yes yes yes.
Have you ever wonderred why there has been no contested elected board member since the turn of the century?I accept that a certain amount of spin doctoring takes place, but I have no doubt he was being honest about the issues facing the club. The speach was made at the Copeland. If you think he would stand up in front of the entire club and make stuff up then your delusion has reached a new level. If you truly believe what you are saying then why don't you try and force a spill of the board?
Shaw Wellingham and Dawes at Collingwood in 2013 and 2014 is more value than three blokes that hardly played and I'd take them in 2015.Let me get this straight. You would give up pick 20 for the 2012 version of Dawes? Isn't there an expectation that players drafted that high can actually catch the ball?