Player X or Player Y

[West123]

Cunnington. Tougher and AFL ready

Matthew Stokes or Paul Medhurst

Also Cunnington likely to have FWD eligibility, but hey, why not take both.

As for Stokes & Medhurst, wouldn't touch either with a ten foot pool. I think Medhurst might be done for getting a game and Stokes is iffy, but I'll back Stokes to get more games than Medhurst and therefore take Stokes.

Bradshaw or Roughhead?

 

[dylan123]

Also Cunnington likely to have FWD eligibility, but hey, why not take both.

As for Stokes & Medhurst, wouldn't touch either with a ten foot pool. I think Medhurst might be done for getting a game and Stokes is iffy, but I'll back Stokes to get more games than Medhurst and therefore take Stokes.

Bradshaw or Roughhead?

If Medhurst can get a full pre season i would take him since i think his safer to hold his spot rather then Stokes and he had a good season before that.

Out of Bradshaw and Roughhead i would not take either, i think its best to stay away from "big" forwards but if you really want to pick 1 i would go for Roughhead since Bradshaw is old and more likly to get an injury. Also at a new team which is Sydney who never have been good for dt scores so both of those things would keep me away from him. If Franklin can get back to his 08 form i think Roughhead will also improve from that with less attention from defenders.

 

[54Dogs]

No question asked above so:

Deledio or O'Keefe (assuming both are forwards)

 

[Quigley]

O'Keefe for me. He had a slow start to this year from memory and really kicked it into gear after the first third of the year after moving to the midfield pretty much full time. He should be there from the start this year and could really kick things along. Deledio has had heaps of opportunity to establish himself as a high scoring midfielder and has not really come through. He does not handle a tag particularly well and is not much of a gut runner. I think he will continue to score about what he has.

Davis or Farmer?

 

[HibSam]

I'd go Deledio. I still think he can improve his average, he really seems to hit form midway through the season, but in 2010 I've got a feeling he will ripping it up from the start.

Probably go Davis (from Crows yeah?). With Otten out, I spot should open up for him.


Symes or Harbrow?

 

[Ziebonlahor]

No question asked above so:

Deledio or O'Keefe (assuming both are forwards)

Deledio for me, I think he will be alot more consistent than O'Keefe although O'Keefe may give you a 150 a couple of times a year.

Boak or Prismall?

 

[Crows88]

Deledio for me, I think he will be alot more consistent than O'Keefe although O'Keefe may give you a 150 a couple of times a year.

Boak or Prismall?

Deledio does often start the season slow or has games where he gets shutdown and scores 40odd. This means that there will be times where he will be ripe for the picking. Plus, I am not sure about the quality of the Richmond side this year, if he were playing in a top 8 side I would be on him in a flash, he is durable and can score big. O'Keefe was a revelation last year and the durability factor is fantastic. It does all depend on role as I can see him improving by 5 points or so if he stays in the midfield but I can also see him decreasing by 5 if he is moved back forward though. However, maybe some of the reasons he wanted to leave last year were because he wanted to play in the middle, Roosy gave him that shot and he excelled. I would take O'Keefe only because lids can be picked up later.

Boak or Prismall. I would take Prismall (settle chad). I think Boak will improve but I think that junior burger leaving is going to hurt his scores. This is because he may not cop the tag straight out but as soon as he begins to score well (more of the footy) teams may move the number 1 tag to him and he hasn't had a whole lot of experience dealing with the tag. Prismall on the other hand had an extremely interupted pre-season and we know from previous seasons he is a magnet. He will have a full pre-season under his belt in an improving side with guys like Watson, Stanton, Winderlich, etc to share the load.

Pendlebury or Vince?

 

[renegades]

Vince vs Pendlebury

I like both of these options. They could both increase their prices even further after having great years. Pendles breaking his leg at the end of 09 might be a concern, but he has been reported as ripping it up at preseason. Vince may have more room for improvement than Pendles at a lower price, and finished the season quite well, with scores 121, 116, 134. Might go for Vince at the moment.

Enright vs Newman?

 

[54Dogs]

Vince vs Pendlebury

I like both of these options. They could both increase their prices even further after having great years. Pendles breaking his leg at the end of 09 might be a concern, but he has been reported as ripping it up at preseason. Vince may have more room for improvement than Pendles at a lower price, and finished the season quite well, with scores 121, 116, 134. Might go for Vince at the moment.

Enright vs Newman?

Enright for me.

Enright is essentially fully priced and now a year older but the one thing he will give you is 22 games @ mid-high 80s average. This will have him in the top 5 scoring backs. Newman is also durable but unless there is a role change and more importantly a game plan change with Hardwick to boost his output he will again be stuck around 80 as per the last 3 years. Newman also has plenty of very low scoring games (6 under 62 last year) so can always be picked up cheaply.

Ablett or Swan?

 

[Crows88]

Enright for me.

Enright is essentially fully priced and now a year older but the one thing he will give you is 22 games @ mid-high 80s average. This will have him in the top 5 scoring backs. Newman is also durable but unless there is a role change and more importantly a game plan change with Hardwick to boost his output he will again be stuck around 80 as per the last 3 years. Newman also has plenty of very low scoring games (6 under 62 last year) so can always be picked up cheaply.

Ablett or Swan?

I once heard a very wise DT'er say that when there are 2 elite premiums who are very similar in many aspects of their game that you should choose the person you like to watch more and get behind them. However, I think at the moment Swanny is a notch above Ablett just because of his durability. I think you can pencil in Ablett to miss 1 or 2 because if he gets a bee-sting they rest him. Swanny on the other hand, even last year when he looked like he might have twisted and 'done' his knee he got up and played the week after. I also think that the addition of luke ball to the pies line up can't hurt swanny in anyway. Ablett is a better player, but this is a classic example of where DT socring doesn't fully related to a player's ability.

I'd take swanny out of the 2.


Rhys Palmer v Callan Ward v Trent Cotchin - rate them in order and why.

 

[renegades]

Agree with you there, Swan for me too, if he keeps the same playing style. Ablett's a machine, but may not score quite as highly if Geelong don't dominate teams like they used to.

Palmer/Ward/Cotchin

These guys all have great talent/potential (obviously otherwise you wouldn't have put them up) and should have solid spots in their teams. Ward showed good improvement thoughout the year, but may be priced a little high. Cotchin is a bit of a risk with his injuries so hopefully he puts them behind him and makes a break. We've seen Palmer do well in his debut year so if he can improve on those scores, he will be very attractive at his price.

At the moment I would rate them Palmer > Cotchin > Ward. In SC, I would favour Cotchin because of his good disposal.

NAB cup results and preseason reports will be a big factor in which one (or more) of those I back in my midfield.

Here's one someone said earlier but was ignored: Symes vs Harbrow

 

[Dunn - Well Done]

I like Harbrow, hes a running back who started getting plenty of the footy late in the year and also IIRC in the finals, his scores rose significantly also he has penciled a position in the side for the dogs he will play if in any sort of form. tackles + durability + role = good solid pick, i had him marked him during the finals for nest year ATM not in my side but in a short list. I may toss up him and Ellis.

Symes i really dont like at all, the crows have a super side and have good players that miss each week, which means he could have trouble with job security, a similar player in Otten is gone for the year but im still concerned with his job security (Goodwin, Mcleod, Stevens, Bock, Rutten, Johncock) look like the backs, the crows have plenty of mids aswell so i cant see huge TOG for symes. Durability issues + job security issues would make me pick Harbrow.

Gibbs vs M.Murphy (to be the main captain + the best mid to start with)

 

[renegades]

yep fair enough, i would go him too. Ellis is definately on my shortlist, depends what they do up back there, with players such as ladson coming back.

Gibbs v Murphy
One of those two will be in the majority of teams you would think, they look attractive to start with with Judd missing the first 3 weeks. I would probably lean towards Gibbs, he's a year younger and really racks up the points. Murphy is super consistent - only 2 scores below 90 - but Gibbs has the higher ceiling and can score those 140+ games, so could be a better captaincy option especially if he evens it out.

Hunt vs Ladson vs Waters

 

[Crows88]

yep fair enough, i would go him too. Ellis is definately on my shortlist, depends what they do up back there, with players such as ladson coming back.

Gibbs v Murphy
One of those two will be in the majority of teams you would think, they look attractive to start with with Judd missing the first 3 weeks. I would probably lean towards Gibbs, he's a year younger and really racks up the points. Murphy is super consistent - only 2 scores below 90 - but Gibbs has the higher ceiling and can score those 140+ games, so could be a better captaincy option especially if he evens it out.

Hunt vs Ladson vs Waters

I don't think that the majority of teams will have one of murph and gibbs? I think they are pretty well priced and I think it is important to take into account that without Judd for the first 3 weeks one of them will have to take the number 1 tag and how will this affect their scoring? Both very durable and consistent though, but I worry about how they will go without Juddy.

In regards to your 2. In terms of scoring potential you must say it goes waters, ladson, hunt. I think everyone will have a player around this range (within 20k, there are so many of them). I think Ladson is the most reliable in terms of scores, consistency and durability, whereas Waters is the risk v reward story, but you do have to take risks to win it. Hunt is solid but won't be someone you would want to keep for too long but may be a very solid bench option, but I still think there is better available. I would rate them: Waters only because he has the potential to become a keeper IF he stays injury free, Ladson because he has a nice mix of consistency, durability and security, then hunt just because he doesn't have a great scoring potential, coming of a knee-reco and with Harley gone he may have to take up more of a key defensive post.

Jake Melksham (dons midfield draftee) v Morabito (freo mid draftee)

 

[GrandBlue]

Jake Melksham (dons midfield draftee) v Morabito (freo mid draftee)

If both are ready for round 1, Melksham for sure. He's always been a nice ball-winner at junior level and if he gets a good run, he could be a young Pendlebury. I question Morabito's ball-winning capabilities and whether he'll be able to gather a lot of it at senior level though and along with that, tends to give a few Free Kicks away but he's definitely got a better build than Melksham and I'd think he's certain to go round 1 if not injured.

Joel Corey or Scott Thompson?

 

[54Dogs]

If both are ready for round 1, Melksham for sure. He's always been a nice ball-winner at junior level and if he gets a good run, he could be a young Pendlebury. I question Morabito's ball-winning capabilities and whether he'll be able to gather a lot of it at senior level though and along with that, tends to give a few Free Kicks away but he's definitely got a better build than Melksham and I'd think he's certain to go round 1 if not injured.

Joel Corey or Scott Thompson?

Corey comfortably for me.

Corey is a workhorse and never gets the tag so will continue to rack up plenty of stats and points. Output was down slightly last year due to backline injuries meaning he had to play HBF at times. No new mids coming through to take his points so very little downside. The only risk is Bomber's player management strategy.

Thompson historically has been very durable but had some hamstring issues last year which was a concern looking to 2010. Also worried that with more inside mid time for Danger, Thompson and Danger will be rotating forward with inside mid. Hence less time in the middle.

Walker and Birchall?

 

[chadleverington]

Jake Melksham (dons midfield draftee) v Morabito (freo mid draftee)

take them both

 

[chadleverington]

Thompson historically has been very durable but had some hamstring issues last year which was a concern looking to 2010. Also worried that with more inside mid time for Danger, Thompson and Danger will be rotating forward with inside mid. Hence less time in the middle.

Thompson i have had the luxury of picking up for 350kish mid year the past couple of years. Corey holds his value better which makes him hard to upgrade to.

 

[docker_champ29]

If both are ready for round 1, Melksham for sure. He's always been a nice ball-winner at junior level and if he gets a good run, he could be a young Pendlebury. I question Morabito's ball-winning capabilities and whether he'll be able to gather a lot of it at senior level though and along with that, tends to give a few Free Kicks away but he's definitely got a better build than Melksham and I'd think he's certain to go round 1 if not injured.

Joel Corey or Scott Thompson?

Morabito has a higher DT average in the WAFL than Daniel Rich did

 

[Dunn - Well Done]

Im expecting Morabito to avg 16-20 possessions a game, in a side that is lookign to up the disposal rate and he takes enough marks and tackles quite well aswell to be a very nice dtm prospect, i think freo will look to play him each week in 2010 if fit.

Melksham, im personally a little suprised about the interest in him, i rate him extremely highly and im a dons fan but i dont think im bias, he has dalsanto attributes and the qualites needed to become a good AFL footballer, but his body looks way to small to step into the AFL scheme straight away, however knights has expressed interest in playing the young boys "Knights said his four new 18-year-olds would be considered for the first round if they got through their first pre-season unhindered." Also with Lovett, Mcphee gone and the likely hood that Mcveigh, Welsh or a prismall will miss a few i can start to see why people are getting all over him.

Big statement saying that most teams will either have Gibbs or Murphy in their side. Also i forgot about Judd that is questioning my decision with picking one, as the first 3 rounds expect to see them tagged. I know which one im leaning towards.

S.Thompson vs Corey well at the beginning i wouldve defiatnly have said Thompson but im slowly turning off him now with the recollection of knowing he struggled with hamstrings last year a little, but i think he will lose a tag and wont lose midfield time. Hes on my short list but also he can be brought in cheaper as someone stated, if history is to go by. I can only see Coreys scores going down or holding the same, i dont see any value in him. But for a captain's choice he would be good and for your number 1 midfielder.

 

[54Dogs]

Im expecting Morabito to avg 16-20 possessions a game, in a side that is lookign to up the disposal rate and he takes enough marks and tackles quite well aswell to be a very nice dtm prospect, i think freo will look to play him each week in 2010 if fit.

Melksham, im personally a little suprised about the interest in him, i rate him extremely highly and im a dons fan but i dont think im bias, he has dalsanto attributes and the qualites needed to become a good AFL footballer, but his body looks way to small to step into the AFL scheme straight away, however knights has expressed interest in playing the young boys "Knights said his four new 18-year-olds would be considered for the first round if they got through their first pre-season unhindered." Also with Lovett, Mcphee gone and the likely hood that Mcveigh, Welsh or a prismall will miss a few i can start to see why people are getting all over him.

Big statement saying that most teams will either have Gibbs or Murphy in their side. Also i forgot about Judd that is questioning my decision with picking one, as the first 3 rounds expect to see them tagged. I know which one im leaning towards.

S.Thompson vs Corey well at the beginning i wouldve defiatnly have said Thompson but im slowly turning off him now with the recollection of knowing he struggled with hamstrings last year a little, but i think he will lose a tag and wont lose midfield time. Hes on my short list but also he can be brought in cheaper as someone stated, if history is to go by. I can only see Coreys scores going down or holding the same, i dont see any value in him. But for a captain's choice he would be good and for your number 1 midfielder.

Why specifically do you see Coreys score dropping DWD?

Also, Thompson has proven he can play forward and the Crows will want more midfield time into their up and comers. Why do you think he will not lose midfield time?


Walker and Birchall again?

 

[dylan123]

Why specifically do you see Coreys score dropping DWD?

Also, Thompson has proven he can play forward and the Crows will want more midfield time into their up and comers. Why do you think he will not lose midfield time?


Walker and Birchall again?

Walker v Birchall = risk/reward v safe
If walker manages to play the whole season you would expect him to have a higher average then Birchall next year, but he has big troubles been able to stay out on the park. Birchall on the other hand is always going to pull you scores in the 70's and 80's which you would be pretty happy with in the backline. I think this option really comes down the structure of your team and your backline, you do not want to take too many risks in your team but if you have a fairy steady backline he might be worth the risk because it will be a big reward i think. I would go for Walker because i perfer going for the risk/reward option more then someone who will average around 75-80ish and his price will not be too far off that currently. Walker if he can get at least around 10 games is going to make you money and either be and upgrade player or a keeper but could injure his shoulder straight up and cost you a trade with no profit.

Mackie v Enright

 

[Dunn - Well Done]

Why specifically do you see Coreys score dropping DWD?

Also, Thompson has proven he can play forward and the Crows will want more midfield time into their up and comers. Why do you think he will not lose midfield time?


Walker and Birchall again?

Corey based on age and not playing as a starting 3 midfielder onball also see him possibly playing more across half back, but aging and geelong not doing aswell are the main factors.

Thompson is only 26 people tend to think hes alot older, him working with Vince and Dangerfield as the starting 3 mids is how i see their starting structure with edwards pushing out to a different role.

 

[HibSam]

Mackie vs Enright
- I'd go Enright, Mackie might have to play more defensive with Harley gone + Enright has always been a good and reliable scorer. Hunt coming back might steal points off both of them, but with Geelong's high posession game it shouldn't be too much of a concern.


Clark vs Cox vs Sandilands
- Considering price/durability etc.

 

[docker_champ29]

Mackie vs Enright
- I'd go Enright, Mackie might have to play more defensive with Harley gone + Enright has always been a good and reliable scorer. Hunt coming back might steal points off both of them, but with Geelong's high posession game it shouldn't be too much of a concern.


Clark vs Cox vs Sandilands
- Considering price/durability etc.

I would go Clark. This is because he has the lowest price of the 3 I think. And this is only because Clark had a couple of low scores to begin the year with.