players names on the back of guernseys

[MC Extra Dollop]

Got this in the email.

The whole name thing is gaining momentum. It looks great and SHOULD be added in the future.

How does that show that it's 'gaining momentum'? The issue is whether they should be on the players' guernseys. People have been able to buy guernseys with a player's name and number pressed on from the various club stores for about five years. If you want to spend an extra $25-40 on that, you've been able to for a fair while now.

It's time we get over this "let's be unique" crap. We can be unique in MANY ways, but we aren't, because most of those ways require us to give up practical things that work. We could be different by wearing HATS on the field, or making each player wear facepaint. I mean seriously... there's unique, and then there's "cut the crap already".

It's not unique. Heaps of sports do not bother to add players names to the back of team uniforms, with rugby league and rugby union probably being the most obvious examples.

 

[Butler]

This is the most stupid reasoning I've ever heard.

We always individualize them. Whether it's contract status, injuries, salaries, fame, scandals, reports, disposal tallies, goal tallies, mark of the years, draft order, bet odds, individual awards, ect; (I could go on forever) - and you tell me we never individualize them?

Jesus Christ.

Players are a monopoly. Like it or not, they are the market of the game. They all play a piece and affect the team's results based on what they do and where they are.

Every player is a trademark and is talked about (whether it's by supporters or commentators) in every single shot, and you're telling me a simple name on the back of the jumper (which would actually have a benefit in identifying those that are constantly talked about) would contradict everything I've just outlined?

So scary!

Hilarious. Clutching at straws if anything. Sounds more like "let's argue against it for the sake of arguing".

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[MC Extra Dollop]

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Yes the 'players are a monopoly'/'Every player is a trademark' points were great for a few laughs.

 

[Butler]

Yes the 'players are a monopoly'/'Every player is a trademark' points were great for a few laughs.

So you don't agree with it? I particularly like the clutching at straws comment because the strength of the arguments against are very weak imo.

 

[MC Extra Dollop]

So you don't agree with it? I particularly like the clutching at straws comment because the strength of the arguments against are very weak imo.

Kind of like the strength of arguments for?

It won't help people identify the players, except when there is a close-up of their back on TV (will do bugger all for supporters at the grounds). So let's trial it in the NAB Cup, because a lot of players whom the supporters are unfamiliar with will be running around, right? Would being able to tell that #46 for Geelong is Simpkin, when he is playing in the NAB Cup really increase the viewer enjoyment? No, because most people still wouldn't have a clue who he is.

The only reason the AFL and the clubs will bring it in would be to increase sales. Which is already an option to supporters who want to buy a guernsey with a player's name on the back. If the only real reason to bring it in is to increase merchandise sales, then I don't understand why anyone on here would care.

 

[Butler]

Kind of like the strength of arguments for?

It won't help people identify the players, except when there is a close-up of their back on TV (will do bugger all for supporters at the grounds). So let's trial it in the NAB Cup, because a lot of players whom the supporters are unfamiliar with will be running around, right? Would being able to tell that #46 for Geelong is Simpkin, when he is playing in the NAB Cup really increase the viewer enjoyment? No, because most people still wouldn't have a clue who he is.

The only reason the AFL and the clubs will bring it in would be to increase sales. Which is already an option to supporters who want to buy a guernsey with a player's name on the back. If the only real reason to bring it in is to increase merchandise sales, then I don't understand why anyone on here would care.

To be honest i don't really mind whether it comes in or not. It doesn't affect the way the game is played so i don't see why anyone would care if it does come in?

The arguments against are mainly points about individualisation and not being able to see the names anyway which isn't really the point of putting names on their backs. As you said, it's all about merchandise sales. The argument of tradition is just another way of being afraid of change and player individualisation happens already so how are those decent arguments?

Yes we can all go in and ask for a players name to be printed on the back but i'm guessing that doesn't happen all that often. Why? well probably because the players don't have their names on their back so it makes the jumper different. I know thats a reason i wouldn't go and get a name printed on.

Again, i just don't get why people can be so against it when it doesn't change the game and it is no different to having sponsors on the jumpers.

 

[magic.merkin]

This is the most stupid reasoning I've ever heard.

We always individualize them. Whether it's contract status, injuries, salaries, fame, scandals, reports, disposal tallies, goal tallies, mark of the years, draft order, bet odds, individual awards, ect; (I could go on forever) - and you tell me we never individualize them?

Jesus Christ.

Players are a monopoly. Like it or not, they are the market of the game. They all play a piece and affect the team's results based on what they do and where they are.

Every player is a trademark and is talked about (whether it's by supporters or commentators) in every single shot, and you're telling me a simple name on the back of the jumper (which would actually have a benefit in identifying those that are constantly talked about) would contradict everything I've just outlined?

So scary!

Hilarious. Clutching at straws if anything. Sounds more like "let's argue against it for the sake of arguing".

wow, you feel quite strongly about this, with all the eye rolling, jesus christing and exclamation marks.

I was casually just referring to them on the ground for a 120mins. For me it's a concept of the players identification is irrelevant beyond numbers. They are all in it together.

Sorry I don't agree with you, and I can't see a reason for change for the sake of change. Nothing is to be gained on the field. Feel free to sell the jumpers in shops with names, go nuts.

On tv or the casual supporter, it's been fine for 60 years, and that's what all the graphics, commentators and footy records are for.