Players who looked like they'd become stars but who didn't reach them heights.
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Harding?? Paul Harding I think, could be wrong. Came from interstate with a lot of hype, lasted a year or 2 and went to St Kilda.
ANd about Bowyer, was my bloody favourite player, showed enough to suggest he could play, got hampered by injuries, and went overseas, had an "incident" in Greece, almost died, not sure if it was to do with depression, drugs, accident, but it seemed to be a significant thing. Went to Carlton, never got going again, bye-bye.
ANd about Bowyer, was my bloody favourite player, showed enough to suggest he could play, got hampered by injuries, and went overseas, had an "incident" in Greece, almost died, not sure if it was to do with depression, drugs, accident, but it seemed to be a significant thing. Went to Carlton, never got going again, bye-bye.
Yes, the same time as Buckenara.
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Yep my list includes: Matt Bourke, Shannon Gibson, Ben Dixon, Kris Barlow, Dom Berry, Stephen Lawrence, Glen Bowyer, Danny Harford, Scott Crow, Lance Picioanne, etc. All threse guys I thought could have been twice the players they actually were.
I also thought Ang Lekkas could have been even better.
I also thought Ang Lekkas could have been even better.
There's a name I'd completely forgotten.. he made an awesome smother at Waverley (maybe) to win us a game. Maybe the only thing he ever did.. Definitely seemed to underperform
I remember that, made a last minute smother against the eagles to (effectively) get us over the line by 2 points. my junior footy coach used that as an example at training that week for tackling and smothering. Was good to be surrounded by eagles fans
Here are a few:
Charlie Grummisch - one of my favourites, freak mark and quality left foot kick, could read the game really well. Thought he would cement a posi in the seniors and become one of the stars of the mid 70s, didnt happen - retired at 22 after 50 games..
Wayne Bevan - Big boofhead CHF/FF that could take a solid mark and was a good straight kick. Played a few games in the mid 70s then disappeared. I thought he was going to be a star, another one that gave it away at 22.
Glen Harrison - A monster CHB who could swing to CHF as a pinch hitter. Had the physical presence and ability to make reserve grade opponents look way out of his league, was overdone in the seconds due to the settled senior backline, eventually got a chance then was injured.
Michael Cooke - Excellent forward in tandem with his brother (Robert). One player that seemed to lose as much confidence as he gained condition. Played far better while he was huffing and wheezing than when he became fit, thought we may have found our own version of Doug Wade.
Robert Cooke - IMO superstar material, destroyed opponents in reserve grade, amazing agility for his size, brilliant high mark and kicking skills. Never played a senior game.
Shane Murphy - Little guy with good goal sense and plenty of talent, i think he was starved of opportunity due to the strength of the list.
Mark Scott - Another full forward that looked like he could become a quality long term senior player, seemed glacially slow when he was given a chance in the seniors. Traded to Fitzroy or StK after kicking about a zillion goals in the seconds.
Graeme Spark - Saw this guy slot 8 against a quality Melbourne reserves FB, mainly one touch and bang, he had incredible goal kicking ability. Played a few senior games and disappeared after a knee injury.
Adrian Cox - Seemed to have the ability, speed, and ball skills to go one step further, thought he could have become a quality player.
That will do for now, don't want too many ex-players slashing their wrists for under achieving.
Charlie Grummisch - one of my favourites, freak mark and quality left foot kick, could read the game really well. Thought he would cement a posi in the seniors and become one of the stars of the mid 70s, didnt happen - retired at 22 after 50 games..
Wayne Bevan - Big boofhead CHF/FF that could take a solid mark and was a good straight kick. Played a few games in the mid 70s then disappeared. I thought he was going to be a star, another one that gave it away at 22.
Glen Harrison - A monster CHB who could swing to CHF as a pinch hitter. Had the physical presence and ability to make reserve grade opponents look way out of his league, was overdone in the seconds due to the settled senior backline, eventually got a chance then was injured.
Michael Cooke - Excellent forward in tandem with his brother (Robert). One player that seemed to lose as much confidence as he gained condition. Played far better while he was huffing and wheezing than when he became fit, thought we may have found our own version of Doug Wade.
Robert Cooke - IMO superstar material, destroyed opponents in reserve grade, amazing agility for his size, brilliant high mark and kicking skills. Never played a senior game.
Shane Murphy - Little guy with good goal sense and plenty of talent, i think he was starved of opportunity due to the strength of the list.
Mark Scott - Another full forward that looked like he could become a quality long term senior player, seemed glacially slow when he was given a chance in the seniors. Traded to Fitzroy or StK after kicking about a zillion goals in the seconds.
Graeme Spark - Saw this guy slot 8 against a quality Melbourne reserves FB, mainly one touch and bang, he had incredible goal kicking ability. Played a few senior games and disappeared after a knee injury.
Adrian Cox - Seemed to have the ability, speed, and ball skills to go one step further, thought he could have become a quality player.
That will do for now, don't want too many ex-players slashing their wrists for under achieving.
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It was a night game over in Perth, Eagles kicked the first 5 or so goals, we came back and got over the line after Collica smothered a kick near the boundary on the Eagles HFFI remember that, made a last minute smother against the eagles to (effectively) get us over the line by 2 points. my junior footy coach used that as an example at training that week for tackling and smothering. Was good to be surrounded by eagles fans
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Stavros Malaxos...all-australian captain b4 coming to the hawks...did nothing in the B&G
Rayden Tallis. He did get stepped on by a great of the game though
Rick Davies was a sensational player. All-Australian captain, booted 151 goals in a season for Sturt in the SANFL. If he had played VFL 5 years earlier in life he would have been a star. A number of SANFL champions suffered the same fate, went to the VFL when their careers were on a downward slope. Russell Ebert and Graham Cornes were two classic examples.
To get the best out of Davies he needed to be played as a key forward, FF or CHF, but this wasn't possible.
As it was they tucked him away in a forward pocket where he kicked 37 goals for the season in a Hawthorn team that didn't perform vey well that season. He pretty much had to stay out of the way of Leigh Matthews and Michael Moncrieff as well.
He was just starting to show what he could do with 5 goals in his final game before returning home. This thread is supposed to be about players who didn't become stars. You could never include Rick Davies in this conversation.
I thought most of these blokes played some great games early on and promised a fair bit but for some reason they either tapered off or remained serviceable from then on.
Glen Nugent
Shannon Gibson
Michael Collica
Tim Boyle
Shayne Stevenson
Glen Bowyer
Lance Picioane
Nick Ries
Aaron Lord
Kris Barlow
Richard Taylor
Jade Rawlings
Rayden Tallis
Nick Holland
Ben Dixon
Nathan Thompson
Glen Nugent
Shannon Gibson
Michael Collica
Tim Boyle
Shayne Stevenson
Glen Bowyer
Lance Picioane
Nick Ries
Aaron Lord
Kris Barlow
Richard Taylor
Jade Rawlings
Rayden Tallis
Nick Holland
Ben Dixon
Nathan Thompson
you forgot Jonathan Hay
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Nathan Thompson...a bit harsh but I thought he was going to dominate the AFL. A good player regardless.
you forgot Jonathan Hay
Jon Hay actually did reach the heights we expected, but only for one season.
true
I wonder how many others of the players that we had great expectations for,also suffered from a similar affliction with the black dog, but not made public?
I would imagine its taken a great toll
I wonder how many others of the players that we had great expectations for,also suffered from a similar affliction with the black dog, but not made public?
I would imagine its taken a great toll
These names have been mentioned
'Alex Macdonald'- Jeans recruited him from Ballarat from memory, supposedly was going to be the next big thing, number 1 draft pick, don't recall how many games he played but he did not have an impact.
'Greg Madigan'- played in the '89 Grand final but he never realy kicked on after that.
'Steve Malaxos' -Watching the State of Origin series as a lad he was pretty good for WA, when he came to hawthorn he was a fizzer.
Remember a game i saw at Waverley during the pre-season, Hawthorn played against the AFL-Allstars, Malaxos had his first game for us , showed something, kicked a goal, but that was it. I think when the eagles came into the comp he realized he needn't to do more and he was probably a serviceble player for them.
'Alex Macdonald'- Jeans recruited him from Ballarat from memory, supposedly was going to be the next big thing, number 1 draft pick, don't recall how many games he played but he did not have an impact.
'Greg Madigan'- played in the '89 Grand final but he never realy kicked on after that.
'Steve Malaxos' -Watching the State of Origin series as a lad he was pretty good for WA, when he came to hawthorn he was a fizzer.
Remember a game i saw at Waverley during the pre-season, Hawthorn played against the AFL-Allstars, Malaxos had his first game for us , showed something, kicked a goal, but that was it. I think when the eagles came into the comp he realized he needn't to do more and he was probably a serviceble player for them.
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