Expansion PNG Joins NRL .......... Options For AFL ??

[RedV3x]

Do you agree with me that NO professional sport should receive taxpayers money?

I've answered that question many times before.

 

[Aussie in exile]

That’s Vlandy’s making the AFL look stupid. The AFL should’ve been able to get a much better deal for Tasmania from the national government imo.
Without doubt the government funding is excessive but the actual side is a great idea from them. The cherry on top was V’landy’s getting through tax free contracts rather than salary cap concessions. Absolutely taking the piss with that move.

V'landys is a very smart operator and you underestimate at your peril.
Think Demetriou for the AFL and then think V'landys for the NRL.

 

[emuboy]

I'd like to see the rationale behind this decision explained to the High School Principal in Billy Madison. I think I know what his response would be.

 

[Bjo187]

I have no political affiliation to Labor at all in fact I don't even vote Labor.

But I am a logic person and there is no logic that a team in PNG makes the NRL more money than an extra team in Perth or QLD especially or anywhere else in aus. So if you think Labor is trying to do the NRL a favour they have done it in the most ineffective way possible.

They are not trying to help the NRL they are trying to pork barrel PNG because of China-personally I think that's a dumb idea but that's clearly why they are doing it.
You have been explained this before but you have trouble accepting what is clearly obvious fact.

Lol pull the other one.

They are still going to get their extra team in Perth and possibly Brisbane on top of this anyway. This ensures a pipeline of players to fill those 20 teams, because barely anyone in Australia wants to play rugby league anymore, outside of local polynesian's. If this ridiculous funding can't produce a truckload of players that already have rugby backgrounds, from a $250 mill investment into grassroots development, then something dodgey is going on.

Anyway, you didn't respond to this part when you replied to my post?

I'm still waiting to hear how the extra $310 million given to the NRL clubs in Aus and Pacific development helps Australia? I mean it's only $310 million, more than triple the afl's annual spend on grassroots development across our entire country, in some places where the Aussie dollar is worth triple the amount of the local currency too.

That’s Vlandy’s making the AFL look stupid. The AFL should’ve been able to get a much better deal for Tasmania from the national government imo.
Without doubt the government funding is excessive but the actual side is a great idea from them. The cherry on top was V’landy’s getting through tax free contracts rather than salary cap concessions. Absolutely taking the piss with that move.

I agree Vlandy's leaves the AFL's diabolical chairman in his dust, but there is a massive advantage when you have the prime minister being a rugby league super fan, regular lunch catch ups with the p.m in Sydney and are able to have his ear on 'not helping out the afl too much, as they're our main competitor'. There's a reason Albanese demanded 'a bigger contribution from the AFL', off his measly 240 mill infrastructure pledge to the Hobart stadium, he was likely keen to drain the coffers, coz weakening the afl's bottom line helps the nrl close the gap.

 

[Walshawk]

Besides a the clubs getting a cash injection, I don’t see how this helps the NRL.
It will bring average crowds down
It will thin out the playing ranks
It will likely see the PNG team uncompetitive for a long time, meaning more one sided games
The fete of the team lies with the government of a corrupt third world country

Happy to do something to help minimise China’s influence in our region, but not sure it actually benefits the NRL.

 

[threenewpadlocks]

Besides a the clubs getting a cash injection, I don’t see how this helps the NRL.
It will bring average crowds down
It will thin out the playing ranks
It will likely see the PNG team uncompetitive for a long time, meaning more one sided games
The fete of the team lies with the government of a corrupt third world country

Happy to do something to help minimise China’s influence in our region, but not sure it actually benefits the NRL.

Precisely this.

The PNG team still has to play 11 or 12 away games throughout the year.

Those are away games that are taking away from a Sydney team hosting another Sydney team with a derby crowd and competitive game, a theoretical possible top of the table clash on a Thursday or Friday night that would have been played, etc.

 

[Bjo187]

Precisely this.

The PNG team still has to play 11 or 12 away games throughout the year.

Those are away games that are taking away from a Sydney team hosting another Sydney team with a derby crowd and competitive game, a theoretical possible top of the table clash on a Thursday or Friday night that would have been played, etc.

There are 100k png citizens living in Australia, so they'll get some away attendances. Much like the nz team gets some of the best away crowds, but obviously to a smaller degree.

Aussie rugby league fans don't typically travel to away grounds a suburb away anyway, so I don't think it will make much difference to attendances.

Even if it fails, I'd prefer it to be a 300 mill failed venture over a 650 mill failed venture, as the extra 300 mill isn't needed. Well other than a golden handshake from Albanese to his favourite code and good friend Peter.

 

[emuboy]

NRL & Australian Federal Government: Announce PNG team for NRL

People In PNG: We don't care.

Most People involved in Australian Rugby League: HTF is this ever going to be practical or cost effective?

Rugby Leage Supporters from North Sydney, NSW Central Coast, Perth, Adelaide & Christchurch: WTF?

 

[RedV3x]

Happy to do something to help minimise China’s influence in our region, but not sure it actually benefits the NRL.

People are increasingly buying Chinese cars, SUVs and trucks.
The solar panel market is almost 100% Chinese by now.
Hard to find a product that isn't made in China.
Then there's almost everybody gifting there social data to China.

All this petty episode can do is antagonise the Chinese government officials.
Poor move by one Australian government official.

 

[RedV3x]

Went to a New Years function with lots of FIFO, engineers and mine's people.
When the subject of the PNG came up they thoroughly ripped into the situation there.
These people weren't talking football but were saying how you'd have to be nuts to work/live there.
Plenty of horrific anecdotes.

If it wasn't for the horrendous waste of Australian taxpayers money, I'd be wanting the NRL to waste their time there.
.

 

[Cmarsh]

Australia amongst other nations boycotted sport with South Africa in the 70's and 80's because of apartheid.

Homosexuality continues to be illegal in PNG. Sporting sides Internationally should be boycotting playing in PNG, just like they did with South Africa during apartheid.

So why is the Australian Government falling over themselves to give money to this PNG venture? And why are the Australian Government and the NRL so willing to ignore a blatent human rights issue?

 

[Aussie in exile]

Australia amongst other nations boycotted sport with South Africa in the 70's and 80's because of apartheid.

Homosexuality continues to be illegal in PNG. Sporting sides Internationally should be boycotting playing in PNG, just like they did with South Africa during apartheid.

So why is the Australian Government falling over themselves to give money to this PNG venture? And why are the Australian Government and the NRL so willing to ignore a blatent human rights issue?

Couldn't the same allegations to a lesser extent when the AFL agreed to play games in China?

 

[Cmarsh]

Couldn't the same allegations to a lesser extent when the AFL agreed to play games in China?

Probably. Much more sustained effort and much more money by Aus Govt into this venture though.

 

[Aussie in exile]

Probably. Much more sustained effort and much more money by Aus Govt into this venture though.

The same accusations could be aimed as some African and middle East countries as well

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

The same accusations could be aimed as some African and middle East countries as well

Isn’t Homosexuality illegal in 1/3 of the worlds countries?

 

[Aussie in exile]

Isn’t Homosexuality illegal in 1/3 of the worlds countries?

I don't know. I haven't counted them

 

[RedV3x]

Couldn't the same allegations to a lesser extent when the AFL agreed to play games in China?

Are the AFL in China now ?
Did the Australian government pump money into AFL in China ?
You are really clutching at straws in your anti-AFL agenda.

 

[Aussie in exile]

Are the AFL in China now ?
Did the Australian government pump money into AFL in China ?
You are really clutching at straws in your anti-AFL agenda.

No
I suggest you read again as to why the Government are bank rolling a NRL team in PNG.
I point out facts which struthious posters don't like.
I have championed a AFL team in Canberra from day one. I wouldn't call that anti AFL.
If you don't like my posts put me on ignore. It's really that simple.

 

[RedV3x]

No

Then why did you attempt to link AFL with China ?

I suggest you read again as to why the Government are bank rolling a NRL team in PNG.

Why do I need to re-quaint myself with the delusional idea that wasting $650 million on establishing a NRL side in
the dark hole of Port Moresby will in some way stop the Chinesse from gaining influemce in PNG when Australia cannot manage the growing influence of China in Australia and indeed in the current political climate isn't it better to foster good relations with China rather than provoke them outright with ridiculous provocations.

I point out

the repetively old tiresome and irrelevent musings. No facts included.

facts which struthious posters don't like.

You'r still not liking the facts of Australian Football in N.Z.
despite numerous references.

I have championed a AFL team in Canberra from day one.

Many people consider AFL Canberra as sustainable
Most people don't consider NRL PNG as sustainable

If you don't like my posts put me on ignore.

Then i get great delight in showing how ridiculous most of them are.

It's really that simple.

that you are indeed a troll (IMO)

 

[Aussie in exile]

There why did you attempt to link AFL with China ?



Why do I need to re-quaint myself with the delusional idea that wasting $650 million on establishing a NRL side in
the dark hole of Port Moresby will in some way stop the Chinesse from gaining influemce in PNG when Australia cannot manage the growing influence of China in Australia and indeed in the current political climate isn't it better to foster good relations with China rather than provoke them outright with ridiculous provocations.


the repetively old tiresome and irrelevent musings. No facts included.



You'r still not liking the facts of Australian Football in N.Z.
despite numerous references.



Many people consider AFL Canberra as sustainable
Most people don't consider NRL PNG as sustainable



Then i get great delight in showing how ridiculous most of them are.



that you are indeed a troll (IMO)

Put me on ignore if you don't like my comments its really that simple.
Can i suggest you learn how to use google spell check with the amount of spelling mistakes you have made replying to me.
There are 5 in the above post alone.

 

[RedV3x]

Put me on ignore if you don't like my comments its really that simple.

Why are you repeating youirself?
basically I said that I enjoy the laugh.