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Pure_Ownage said:
Yes...Dan McKenna had it but he never played a senior game.

I'm looking forward to unveiling my 31 on Sunday, and I hope Pods is playing seniors :)
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That would be really funny seeing heaps of supporters with the big 31 on their backs, talk about sending a message to the selection committee.:D
 
meto said:
That would be really funny seeing heaps of supporters with the big 31 on their backs, talk about sending a message to the selection committee.:D
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I agree...let's start a grass roots campaign! :thumbsu::D

If you see one sitting in Ablett behind the goals, it is most probably me ;)
 
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hamG said:
I loved his hands and his leading. Wish we could keep him in the seniors, Hawkins very lucky he kicked a few today :rolleyes:
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Have to agree - it might have just been the way the rotations went but the TV coverage showed Hawkins on the bench during the last minutes of the match. Might be reading too much in to this but wouldn't you have your first choice on the field when the game is up for grabs?
 

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Poddddddsssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the man gives me wet dreams.


in all seriousness though missed a couple of very kick-able goals but a fantastic debut.
solid body, pace, great hands :thumbsu:
 
Finally got to look at the game, and despite losing the game was delighted with Pods game (not too many first games with 6 contested marks).

Like a number of the posts, I was really impressed by the good leading, strong body position and the one grab hands. Think opposition coaches are going to have to play their stronger KPP on him or make sure there is another one back to make spoils. Think that this is not the case with Hawkins.

The negatives (admittedly from this game and the nab cup) - Doesn't seem to be that great grabbing the half volleys - strange for someone with one grab hands - he is going to have to work on this, as despite the hype, the Cats aren't the best passers in the world.

Also appears to be ahave a bit of a larconic, realxed style that looks like he's not giving it his all. Probably not intended, but doesn't look good these days as all players are expected to look 150% focused/prepared to die to do something good.

Like most posts - would love to see him get another game this week. One possibility not mentioned is whether he or Moons could go back, perhaps at expense of Lonergan - perhaps this is trying too hard to get him in the team.

At the very least he's proved he's going to be a very, very good backup. Well done to him for persisting and the Cats for bit of Left field thinking.
 
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Ammo Man said:
Geez some of you guys are tough on DJ. Duncan gets 2 more possessions than DJ and some of you had him in the votes. It wasn't one of his best performances but he deserves more than one game to show the selectors whether he can cut it. Byrnes did. Varcoe did. Wojo is......

Judging by Rizzo's assessment of Maxie his VFL form wouldn't justify a recall yet.
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That's all fair, but there's a few factors weighing against him at the moment. Firstly he's been there much longer than Duncan too - it's his fourth season compared to Duncan's first. Duncan already looks a better player. Djerrkura looked like he could get the ball but his decision making and disposal weren't much.

Secondly, we've got some pretty decent players coming back. Let's assume at a minimum it's Mooney, Scarlett, Ottens and Milburn. You'd guess Gamble, Simpson, then it's going to be really tough deciding who to drop. Lonergan has been good, so has Duncan, and Podsiadly more than did his job. What did Djerrkura do in comparison? Not a lot.

To me Gamble and Djerrkura would be the first two dropped. When he's competing with Milburn, Rooke, Varcoe, even Hogan, there's no comparison at the moment. He still hasn't shown enough at senior level to demonstrate he deserves a game ahead of others.
 
Pure_Ownage said:
Thought Pods had a great debut. Only 2 goals yes, but those who watched the game would be no doubt that he made a great contribution. 2 important goal assists in the third quarter, 11 marks, several of which were awesome, and 17 possessions, is a great debut for a key forward. The only thing that was less than I expected (based on what I’ve seen of him) was his goal kicking, but no doubt some of that was first game nerves, and Mooney has bad goal kicking days too, so we can’t put a line through Pods because of that. Today showed his ability to take a contested mark, which is like gold in the modern game.

He also seemed to fit in well (i.e. seemed to read the midfielders and they read him) and was able to mark and give off handballs to people and so forth. The number of marks he took outside 50 showed he is fitter than most people probably think, and he had a good workrate. I’m not necessarily saying he should play seniors all year, but I certainly saw enough today to suggest Pods is good enough to play at this level, and as someone who has showed a lot of love for the bloke, and had family and friends tell me all summer that he won’t make it, I was really pleased.

I also got to watch the game in an Irish pub, and when Pods took that mark with 3 minutes to go, needless to say my ‘Pooodddddsssss yooouuuuuu beauuuuutyyy’ made me look like a nutter and pretty much shook the walls of the place.

Hopefully he can keep his spot for next week.
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Very, very happy to be proven wrong by the big fella. A couple of missed kicks at goal, but on the whole he couldn've have done much more. I'm still a little wary (of the structure), but I think we'd be a near certainty to try all three big guys against Port on Sunday. They've now all shown enough form to warrant trying it.

A few comments about Mooney and Hawkins have been wide of the mark though.

Some of the other posts seem to insinuate Hawkins has never taken a contested mark - it's bullshit. I recall him taking a couple of amazing grabs against Fremantle in the equivalent game in 2008 for starters. Hawkins hasn't set the competition alight by any means, but he was solid against Hawthorn and again on Sunday. He still kicked 3 goals and did his job. His last quarter goal was a ripper, tight angle and he never looked like missing. Do I think he needs to do more? Absolutely. But he's heading in the right direction.

As for Mooney, he's still our number one forward. Trying to recall when he last had a big impact for us.........oh yeah that's right - last week against Hawthorn (4 goals in case everyone's forgotten). Podsiadly looked very impressive but he's not a premiership forward yet. Mooney is. And for a good reason.

For what it's worth, neither of them should be tried in the ruck. We didn't play Hawkins there last year out of choice, we had no one else. His best football for us by far has been in the forward line. That's where he has to stay. Plus the fact we have Ottens, Blake and Simpson all available as much better ruckmen would indicate we don't need to consider that option anyway.

But great debut by Podsiadly. Hope he keeps it up.
 
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thrillhouse said:
Took a great overhead mark in the final quarter and has a massive engine. Very fit player.
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You mean McPharlin did...

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Apart from that, he did very well. Really happy for him :):thumbsu:
 

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Live in hope said:
Finally got to look at the game, and despite losing the game was delighted with Pods game (not too many first games with 6 contested marks).

Like a number of the posts, I was really impressed by the good leading, strong body position and the one grab hands. Think opposition coaches are going to have to play their stronger KPP on him or make sure there is another one back to make spoils. Think that this is not the case with Hawkins.

The negatives (admittedly from this game and the nab cup) - Doesn't seem to be that great grabbing the half volleys - strange for someone with one grab hands - he is going to have to work on this, as despite the hype, the Cats aren't the best passers in the world.

Also appears to be ahave a bit of a larconic, realxed style that looks like he's not giving it his all. Probably not intended, but doesn't look good these days as all players are expected to look 150% focused/prepared to die to do something good.

Like most posts - would love to see him get another game this week. One possibility not mentioned is whether he or Moons could go back, perhaps at expense of Lonergan - perhaps this is trying too hard to get him in the team.

At the very least he's proved he's going to be a very, very good backup. Well done to him for persisting and the Cats for bit of Left field thinking.
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I agree with your assessment.

As for the 'laconicness' I just think it's because he's not overt with his demeanour. I've watched a lot of VFL, and when he kicks a great goal, and people like me are going nuts behind the goals, you still don't see much reaction from him. So I think like some footballers that are like that, we often think they're not working hard even though they are.

I had a little question mark on his workrate, not in terms of attitude and effort, because his is first class, but would he know where to work up and stuff (because at VFL he spends so much time inside the 50) but he did enough lead up and link well outside 50 that I was satisfied with that.
 
Partridge said:
Very, very happy to be proven wrong by the big fella. A couple of missed kicks at goal, but on the whole he couldn've have done much more. I'm still a little wary (of the structure), but I think we'd be a near certainty to try all three big guys against Port on Sunday. They've now all shown enough form to warrant trying it.

A few comments about Mooney and Hawkins have been wide of the mark though.

Some of the other posts seem to insinuate Hawkins has never taken a contested mark - it's bullshit. I recall him taking a couple of amazing grabs against Fremantle in the equivalent game in 2008 for starters. Hawkins hasn't set the competition alight by any means, but he was solid against Hawthorn and again on Sunday. He still kicked 3 goals and did his job. His last quarter goal was a ripper, tight angle and he never looked like missing. Do I think he needs to do more? Absolutely. But he's heading in the right direction.

As for Mooney, he's still our number one forward. Trying to recall when he last had a big impact for us.........oh yeah that's right - last week against Hawthorn (4 goals in case everyone's forgotten). Podsiadly looked very impressive but he's not a premiership forward yet. Mooney is. And for a good reason.

For what it's worth, neither of them should be tried in the ruck. We didn't play Hawkins there last year out of choice, we had no one else. His best football for us by far has been in the forward line. That's where he has to stay. Plus the fact we have Ottens, Blake and Simpson all available as much better ruckmen would indicate we don't need to consider that option anyway.

But great debut by Podsiadly. Hope he keeps it up.
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For once, you and I are in total agreement :)

I think the big fella played well, and I'm not worried about his goal kicking because I've seen how good it is at training and VFL. Now that the nerves should be out of the way he should hit them better, since so much of goal kicking is mental.

I'm like you in that even I am wary whether the three talls can work (and I want the best outcome for the team as a whole, much as I love Pods) but as I've said all summer, we won't know until we try, and if the big fella's form warrants a game then it deserves a try. I think this week at home, against what is, with respect, not the quickest backline in the world, is the right week to try it.

I agree I think Hawk takes some great contested marks (though I think there's a couple Pods took that he wouldn't have), and kicks pretty well. In fact it's the other areas of his game I think he needs to develop more, and I think he will. Barring a form slump, he should stay in the seniors.

And Moons is great. I still wouldn't want him kicking for goal to win us the granny-but he's great. He'll still belt someone again at some stage though, so it's great we have 3 talls :D

EDIT: Pods will be interviewed on the Friday Conversation on CATS TV so tune in :)
 
Pure_Ownage said:
For once, you and I are in total agreement :)

I agree I think Hawk takes some great contested marks (though I think there's a couple Pods took that he wouldn't have), and kicks pretty well. In fact it's the other areas of his game I think he needs to develop more, and I think he will. Barring a form slump, he should stay in the seniors.
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Yeah I know - it's a worry isn't it! :D

I've mentioned this elsewhere, Hawkins' main issue now to overcome is quantity. He simply needs to do more of what he's doing. He's getting much better at providing a leading target up the ground, his disposal all around is solid, and he's vastly improved in using his body to take marks. Plus his conversion has improved too.

Now he has to go from getting 10-12 touches a game to 16-20. He does that consistently, and we could have a very useful footballer on our hands.

Still has to do it of course.
 
hope my post last night didn't give impression that i think that moons and hawkins don't take contested marks - because they certainly do.
I am a huge mooney fan - has it all, great skills/pace for a tall, great hands, game reading and tough . only real weakness is temperament, which he has reined in (now only 1/2 reports a season, compared to potentially one every week. Was a bit lucky in the grand final to not have a crucial goal square mark removed/paid to gilbert), but without the aggro it just wouldn't be moons. he is clearly our best KPP foward.

Hawkins - i love the way he is coming on, 30-40 goal season pretty good for a kid who didn't come through TAC. He is the Cat's furture power KPP for 5-10 years so they must stick with him. havings said that, it's fair to say that currently he is not a consistent one grabber and I stand by my comment that opposistion seem happy to leave one on him rather than worrying about having another nearby to spoil. (with Pods - on basis of last week and my memories of VFL games last year - if Pods pulls in one or two of those body on body one grabs early on sunday, then Port will definitely drop someone back). Must say my biggest wish for hawkins is that he starts learning to bust packs with the big frame. if he can do it half as good as Rooke, then opposition backs will find it much harder to concentrate on clearing the long direct kick into 50.

overall - its a great problem to have - one that gives us options and backups, and takes a bit of pressure off us on the Mitch Brown injury recovery/Mooney end of year contract negotiations.
 
Was great, led well and took some strong marks.

All the tall forwards (and smalls) has their moments in the game. Pods was probably the best of the lot but Moons was everpresent, Tommahawk had his moments and Ottens took some strong marks too.

3 talls worked today and might get another run next week.
 
Jimpson said:
Was great, led well and took some strong marks.

All the tall forwards (and smalls) has their moments in the game. Pods was probably the best of the lot but Moons was everpresent, Tommahawk had his moments and Ottens took some strong marks too.

3 talls worked today and might get another run next week.
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5.1 and a blatant shank out on the full....Whats more presented over the entire game. Was brilliant....we have really hit the jackpot here.

Three talls will work for a number of teams....including Carlton next week. But might not be the best tactic in every game. Lets not forget we have Otto as well - effectively 4 huge marking targets at our disposal.

Something we could contemplate is giving Hawkins a greater run in the ruck, maybe dropping Blake and keeping just Otto and Hawk. However saying this, Blake is our best tap ruckman at the moment and we all noticed the drop off in clearances last year when he wasn't playying.

However, exciting exciting times. We have again added to our strengths (Another good game for Lonners and Mitch Duncan was again solid). Looking very very promising.
 
McCarthy, Lonegan, N Ablett V Podsiadly

Well done cats, you still have the talent and hunger to match your number one status. What I don't understand is what your selectors have been thinking for the last 3-4 years with Podsiadly playing VFL? He's such a natural forward, why hasn't he made his debut a few years ago when you were trying out some very all-so-runs? And it is good to see Lonegan doing well in the back line. He seems very comfortable there.
 

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