Post your round 1 lineups

[Demon 16]

Who?

He recently changed his name via deed poll and added an 'e'..

Didn't you know?

 

[Trav 20]

I think there's every chance that Neeld wants Terlich in the side. He's got pace, is a good kick/mark and takes the game on. As a mature age recruit I think he's very much in the picture. In his biggest game of the year (SANFL Grand Final) he was BOG with 25 possessions to half-time. Clubs take note of those types of performances. And there's no doubt we need someone with run and skill coming out of the back-line, so he has every chance to stake his claim.

Also, Pedersen has been recruited for structure in the forward-line, as well as being an option to play 20% ruck relief. Those leaving him out are making an error. He wasn't swapped with Gysberts to play at Casey.

My best 22 line-up will no doubt change regularly prior to round 1, and also after the NAB:

Nicholson Frawley Garland
Watts McDonald Terlich
Grimes Trengove Toumpas
Sylvia Clark Howe
Byrnes Dawes Pedersen

Jamar Jones Viney

McKenzie, Blease, M. Jones Sub: Rodan

EMER: From - Tapscott/Taggert/Magner/Tynan/Jetta/Davey/Dunn/Strauss

 

[Demon 16]

I think there's every chance that Neeld wants Terlich in the side. He's got pace, is a good kick/mark and takes the game on. As a mature age recruit I think he's very much in the picture. In his biggest game of the year (SANFL Grand Final) he was BOG with 25 possessions to half-time. Clubs take note of those types of performances. And there's no doubt we need someone with run and skill coming out of the back-line, so he has every chance to stake his claim.

I must agree - when I picked my best 22 I was thinking we just need a little more run and carry / pace coming out of our backline.

Nicholson, Blease and even Toumpas are other options for this role but Terlich has as good an opportunity as anyone to find a spot.

 

[Trav 20]

I must agree...

Similar to a tooth extraction ?

 

[DeeWong6996]

FB - Watts Frawley Garland
HB - Terlich McDonald Nicholson

The backline still looks a little unbalanced. Whilst we are good on height, I think it's too offensive.

Watts, Garland, Nicho and Terlich are all naturally rebounders. Is that a risk?

 

[Trav 20]

FB - Watts Frawley Garland
HB - Terlich McDonald Nicholson

The backline still looks a little unbalanced. Whilst we are good on height, I think it's too offensive.

Watts, Garland, Nicho and Terlich are all naturally rebounders. Is that a risk?

I think Garland is reasonable defensively, but haven't seen enough of Terlich. Strauss isn't great one-on-one either. I think Grimes is a better defender than mid, but think they'll pursue the up-field role.

I've been to 9 training sessions this year and have really liked Jetta. I think he'll be a back this year and he can defend well one-on-one and has a crack. I know he's not the flavour of the month and I too haven't included him in my best 22, but he has every opportunity to stake his claim for the small defenders role. He'd need to take Nicholson's spot. I like Nicholson, but his turnovers are a concern.

 

[DeeWong6996]

Oh cool. Is Jetta training with the backs though?

Hopefully Tynan can develop into that lockdown defender we need.

 

[Trav 20]

Oh cool. Is Jetta training with the backs though?

Hopefully Tynan can develop into that lockdown defender we need.

With many of the drills it's a little hard to know, but I believe so.

 

[Eth]

FB - Watts Frawley Garland
HB - Terlich McDonald Nicholson

The backline still looks a little unbalanced. Whilst we are good on height, I think it's too offensive.

Watts, Garland, Nicho and Terlich are all naturally rebounders. Is that a risk?

Well, there's Frawley/McDonald as the key backs, Garland to take a third tall or small, Watts will probably take whoever's left, and Terlich and Nicholson a bit up the ground as you don't see six forwards in a forward line nowadays anyway.

They're all defensively and offensively capable (Terlich and Nicholson probably less so in the latter). I reckon it's awesome.

 

[SPC 98]

Nicholson is a defensive player.. he creates, but can also shut down.

 

[Tulip]

I don't want to be having stretch definitions to fit anyone but a GAJ or Pendlebury into the side. Don't think its a stretch to argue that Nicholson isn't a stay at home defender; in the same way that Grimes, Terlich and Watts aren't either. Even Garland goes wondering.

Would prefer to give a kid like Tynan a go when, in my opinion, he could be an absolute diamond in the rough. Not guaranteeing him a spot, but would rather have him start the first few games.

 

[Tulip]

Well, there's Frawley/McDonald as the key backs, Garland to take a third tall or small, Watts will probably take whoever's left, and Terlich and Nicholson a bit up the ground as you don't see six forwards in a forward line nowadays anyway.

They're all defensively and offensively capable (Terlich and Nicholson probably less so in the latter). I reckon it's awesome.

Why does Watts have to take a man at all though? Garland has been murdered by a Betts on more than one occassion. Would rather not throw him into a mis-match to fit a Terlich or Nicho in. Watts does his best when he's playing quarterback, and Garland when he's on someone his height (hence why he plays on Franklin).

Players should fill roles naturally. If you're the third best running half back, I think its more a case of 'bad luck' than 'we'll unbalance the squad to fit you in'.

 

[DeeWong6996]

Why does Watts have to take a man at all though? Garland has been murdered by a Betts on more than one occassion. Would rather not throw him into a mis-match to fit a Terlich or Nicho in. Watts does his best when he's playing quarterback, and Garland when he's on someone his height (hence why he plays on Franklin).

Players should fill roles naturally. If you're the third best running half back, I think its more a case of 'bad luck' than 'we'll unbalance the squad to fit you in'.

This is what I meant. A few of our defenders will have to play out of position next year which has me worried. Sinclair destroyed Watts, as did Betts on Garland. Our smalls, excluding Tynan, are all rebounders!

 

[Eth]

Why does Watts have to take a man at all though? Garland has been murdered by a Betts on more than one occassion. Would rather not throw him into a mis-match to fit a Terlich or Nicho in. Watts does his best when he's playing quarterback, and Garland when he's on someone his height (hence why he plays on Franklin).

Players should fill roles naturally. If you're the third best running half back, I think its more a case of 'bad luck' than 'we'll unbalance the squad to fit you in'.

Watts played his best when he took a man and floated off him. Mark Neeld's not going to tell him, 'hey Jack, go play on nobody'.

Sometimes I do think it's a mismatch but Garland frequently takes smalls and frequently does it well. I wouldn't be surprised to see Tynan play Round 1 again and take the small, though. It's a logical match up and his game last year was impressive.

Depends on how Nicholson and Terlich perform, though. I'd say they're the three names fighting for two spots (four, if you're on the Jetta bandwagon - I'm not so sure).

 

[CowboyFromHell]

Why does Watts have to take a man at all though? Garland has been murdered by a Betts on more than one occassion. Would rather not throw him into a mis-match to fit a Terlich or Nicho in. Watts does his best when he's playing quarterback, and Garland when he's on someone his height (hence why he plays on Franklin).

Players should fill roles naturally. If you're the third best running half back, I think its more a case of 'bad luck' than 'we'll unbalance the squad to fit you in'.

While I'm a fan of Watts playing that QB role he still has to play on someone, even when he is zoning off. He will still be accountable to someone, whether he plays on a tall or picks up a medium/small type forward.

I agree with you though in that we should balance our squad as much as we can but they'll need to be able to play a variety of roles anyway, something Neeld has mentioned he wants our players to do.

 

[Tulip]

This is what I meant. A few of our defenders will have to play out of position next year which has me worried. Sinclair destroyed Watts, as did Betts on Garland. Our smalls, excluding Tynan, are all rebounders!

Exactly why I like Tynan. Think every side needs a lockdown small defender.

 

[CowboyFromHell]

Exactly why I like Tynan. Think every side needs a lockdown small defender.

From what I've seen Tynan reminds me a hell of a lot like Clint Bartram. Great lock down player with very average skills. Reckon there are still a few ahead of him, but I do like the kid and the way he approaches it.

 

[Tulip]

From what I've seen Tynan reminds me a hell of a lot like Clint Bartram. Great lock down player with very average skills. Reckon there are still a few ahead of him, but I do like the kid and the way he approaches it.

Wouldn't call his skills average just yet; 19 years old, very raw and much room to improve. Bartram had plenty potential, was pigeon holed early on by scathing supporters (or opposers).

Would be very ambitious to say that Terlich is ahead of him right now, in my view.

Interesting to note, by the way, that Toumpas himself said he sees himself playing off a HBF in 2013.

 

[Andy_Mac]

FB: Tynan Frawley Garland
HB: Toumpas McDonald Watts
C: Nicholson Trengove Grimes
HF: Howe Clark Blease
FF: Byrnes Dawes Pederson
R: Jamar Jones Sylvia

I/C: Viney, Taggert, Bail and Rodan (sub)

Emrg: Dunn, Strauss, Jetta, McKenzie, Terlich,

 

[eth-dog]

Hope you blokes don't mind the intrusion, but I'm an old friend of young Viney, and as such have always liked Melbourne. This is how I see you guys lining up:

Garland-Frawley-Nicholson
Watts-McDonald-Grimes
Toumpas-Jones-Rodan
Sylvia-Clark-Howe
Byrnes-Dawes-Pederson
Jamar-Trengove-Viney
McKenzie-Blease-Strauss-Dunn

Good luck next year fellas, hope you guys improve.

 

[Winter]

Forgive the intrusion lads, I was interested to read your thoughts on Pederson and share some of mine if you don't mind.

For me he was under-valued at North; he is a very capable third tall and was certainly a victim of pushing Hansen and Tarrant as tall options (also a reason why Edwards was happy to move to Richmond).

If you get the chance take a look at North Melbourne v Essendon in 2011, in the second half Pederson's contested marking and work up the ground was a big reason we won that game. Showed some traits that N.Reiwoldt does in terms of work rate and clean marking.

If he gets a clean run at AFL footy, I see him being a real surprise pick-up for the Demons this season, I'll certainly be watching him with interest.

 

[DEMON PRIDE]

BP: Nicholson - Frawley - Tapscott
BH: Watts - McDonald - Garland
C: Trengove - Mckenzie - Howe
HF: Byrnes - Clark - Pederson
FF: Blease - Dawes - Sylvia
C: Jamar - Jones - Viney
INT: Grimes - Toumpas - Magner - Rodan (sub)

Struggled to fit Grimes on the ground, couldn't get Davey, Couch and Dunn in, I don't believe Sellar should be in the best 22 either.

 

[Crusty Demon]

Hard to nail down a full 22 atm with injuries etc still to determine who will be available. But my squad are based on all players being fit and available.

FB: Strauss Frawley Jetta
HB: Watts McDonald Dunn
C: Grimes Trengove Howe
HF: Sylvia Clark Byrnes
FF: Davey Dawes Blease
Ruck: Jamar Jones McKenzie
INT: Pederson Viney Terlich sub: Rodan

The good thing I found putting this 22 together is that for the first time in a long time, we have a bit of depth. And quality depth. Well, better than what we have had in the past anyway.

I mean, I had Nicho and Terlich fighting for the 1 spot. I had Terlich slightly ahead as Nicho chops the ball too much for my liking.

I had Pederson and Fitzpatrick fighting for the 2nd ruck/forward role. Both are capable, but Pederson has experience on his side. So he gets the nod.

I've got Garland, Joel Mac and Dunn fighting for the 1 spot. Dunn's last half of the year was fantastic, so he gets the spot. But I can see Garland getting a game up forward if Clark isn't right the first few rounds. Joel Mac is handy depth if required.

Frawley, T McDonald, Sellar and Gillies are fightling for the main defender roles. Obviously Frawley and TMc get the nod, but it's nice to have depth in this area.

Tappscott, Bail and Byrnes will be fighting over the forward flank role. Byrnes wins out atm through experience. But I can see Tappy playing a number of roles either down back or high forward. Really not sure about Bail. I like him as a player, but dont' seem to know where his best footy is. Probably a wing, but with depth in the middle now, he might struggle to get a game this year.

Jamar and Spencer are fighting for the main ruck role. Obviously Jamar is ahead, but Spencer will get games no doubt. Still hate his disposal, but he is super strong and getting better at stoppages.

Jetta and Tynan are probably playing for the 1 spot as well. Tynan looks a real goer, but Jetta is having a great pre season and should get the nod round 1.

Rodan looks to be the perfect sub for me. Can inject pace and energy immediately, and can hit the scoreboard. But i can also see Toumpas playing this role as well early on until he finds his feet.

Trengove is likely to miss a couple early on as well, so look for Magner or Evans(who seems to be flying pre season) or even Toumpas/Tappscott to get his spot until fit.

I really like the look of my 22 in that Neeld has addressed our needs. We now have Davey, Byrnes and Blease as small forwards. Bail can slot in there also. And we now have plenty of talls up front and back. Terlich, Kent and Jones have added run and carry out of defense and through the wings. And we have depth in the middle with at least a dozen players who can play through there. I'm not saying this bunch of players are going to take us to the promised land, but I can see us being a hell of a lot more competitive next couple of years.

 

[DEMON PRIDE]

Hard to nail down a full 22 atm with injuries etc still to determine who will be available. But my squad are based on all players being fit and available.

FB: Strauss Frawley Jetta
HB: Watts McDonald Dunn
C: Grimes Trengove Howe
HF: Sylvia Clark Byrnes
FF: Davey Dawes Blease
Ruck: Jamar Jones McKenzie
INT: Pederson Viney Terlich sub: Rodan

The good thing I found putting this 22 together is that for the first time in a long time, we have a bit of depth. And quality depth. Well, better than what we have had in the past anyway.

I mean, I had Nicho and Terlich fighting for the 1 spot. I had Terlich slightly ahead as Nicho chops the ball too much for my liking.

I had Pederson and Fitzpatrick fighting for the 2nd ruck/forward role. Both are capable, but Pederson has experience on his side. So he gets the nod.

I've got Garland, Joel Mac and Dunn fighting for the 1 spot. Dunn's last half of the year was fantastic, so he gets the spot. But I can see Garland getting a game up forward if Clark isn't right the first few rounds. Joel Mac is handy depth if required.

Frawley, T McDonald, Sellar and Gillies are fightling for the main defender roles. Obviously Frawley and TMc get the nod, but it's nice to have depth in this area.

Tappscott, Bail and Byrnes will be fighting over the forward flank role. Byrnes wins out atm through experience. But I can see Tappy playing a number of roles either down back or high forward. Really not sure about Bail. I like him as a player, but dont' seem to know where his best footy is. Probably a wing, but with depth in the middle now, he might struggle to get a game this year.

Jamar and Spencer are fighting for the main ruck role. Obviously Jamar is ahead, but Spencer will get games no doubt. Still hate his disposal, but he is super strong and getting better at stoppages.

Jetta and Tynan are probably playing for the 1 spot as well. Tynan looks a real goer, but Jetta is having a great pre season and should get the nod round 1.

Rodan looks to be the perfect sub for me. Can inject pace and energy immediately, and can hit the scoreboard. But i can also see Toumpas playing this role as well early on until he finds his feet.

Trengove is likely to miss a couple early on as well, so look for Magner or Evans(who seems to be flying pre season) or even Toumpas/Tappscott to get his spot until fit.

I really like the look of my 22 in that Neeld has addressed our needs. We now have Davey, Byrnes and Blease as small forwards. Bail can slot in there also. And we now have plenty of talls up front and back. Terlich, Kent and Jones have added run and carry out of defense and through the wings. And we have depth in the middle with at least a dozen players who can play through there. I'm not saying this bunch of players are going to take us to the promised land, but I can see us being a hell of a lot more competitive next couple of years.

Yeah I agree with the depth part. I couldn't even fit Struass in the team and hes a gun

 

[Captain Jack]

Love the enthusiasm all round here, but I see plenty of pre-season-itis creeping in. Plenty of our young, unproven kids are being given big pump-ups to really lift this year. Anyone would think the likes of Fitzpatrick were really good solid AFL level players.

January has interesting effects on the minds of footy fans.