Post Your Team (Part 1)

[Keystone agony]

Would only affect their price for 2 rounds. If 1. So you're seriously telling me you are going to keep 200k+ in your bank just in case one of 30 premiums has a rnd 1 q1/q2 sub affected game?

None of the GWS rookies he selected are weird. They've all been talked about on here since September last year if not before that.

Think you missed the point

I used R1 and R2 as example, lets say its R3 and R4 because you cant understand what im saying or my point. By round 6 he should be quite cheap and premiums would have had 4 rounds to bloom, by picking 2 premiums in that same BYE round it gives me the flexibility to bring in another like Scotland if that were to be the case.

Look at Joel Selwood as a possible example from last year, if he had another down game after that 18 score than his price would have plummeted.

Never said any of the GWS rookies he has picked were weird did i? I said they wont score that well and yet he has 6 of them, 3 in the forwards. I also said they will rotated in and out of them, thus higher potential for donuts and a donut factory. Sheedy has talked them up, woopdie do, name one player Sheedy hasnt talked up in his life that he has coached?

 

[Freo2012]

My first cast - fairly straight forward team of elites and rookies - bound to be changes by Rd1

Goddard, Delidio, Adcock, Grimes, Ellis, Darley, Smedts, Wilkes, Aylett
Ablett, Murphy, Selwood, Thompson, Clifton, Shiel, Stevens, Neale
Leue, McEvoy, Giles, Steph
SJ, Franklin, Fyfe, Zaha, Martin, Zorko, Cameron, Treloar, Sexton

Cash left $24.9K

Justification:
- Played with idea of Barlow and Hayes, but main rookie value (future cash, JS etc) is rookies in Mid's and Backs so want max premiums forward whilst still enough in Mid to still get good early points. Extra premiums forward should get close to 100 average which is all these 2 are likely to do anyway and they have injury risk and will require upgrade to other elites for best team end of season - rookies will make as much money.
- Structure decreases future trades needed for upgrades, barring injury
- Planned to have Byes covered fairly well tho small problem with forwards - many rookies will be cashed up by Rds 9-11 so will downgrade several before byes and have cash for pure rookie to premium upgrades during bye weeks to minimise effect of zeros and get me towards final elite team
- still not sure on McEvoy - he does have JS and should improve further (still young), also looking at ZSmith who I think will have great season. Not going Sandi - Freo will rest him from 4-5 interstate trips to manage thru to finals
- Think Murphy and Thompson will have fantastic season.

Comments please?

 

[Bluey_McKenna]

My first cast - fairly straight forward team of elites and rookies - bound to be changes by Rd1

Goddard, Delidio, Adcock, Grimes, Ellis, Darley, Smedts, Wilkes, Aylett
Ablett, Murphy, Selwood, Thompson, Clifton, Shiel, Stevens, Neale
Leue, McEvoy, Giles, Steph
SJ, Franklin, Fyfe, Zaha, Martin, Zorko, Cameron, Treloar, Sexton

Cash left $24.9K

Justification:
- Played with idea of Barlow and Hayes, but main rookie value (future cash, JS etc) is rookies in Mid's and Backs so want max premiums forward whilst still enough in Mid to still get good early points. Extra premiums forward should get close to 100 average which is all these 2 are likely to do anyway and they have injury risk and will require upgrade to other elites for best team end of season - rookies will make as much money.
- Structure decreases future trades needed for upgrades, barring injury
- Planned to have Byes covered fairly well tho small problem with forwards - many rookies will be cashed up by Rds 9-11 so will downgrade several before byes and have cash for pure rookie to premium upgrades/trades during bye weeks to minimise effect of zeros and get me to final elite team
- still not sure on McEvoy - he does have JS and should improve further (still young), also looking at ZSmith who I think will have great season. Not going Sandi - Freo will rest him from 4-5 interstate trips to manage thru to finals
- Think Murphy and Thompson will have fantastic season.

Comments please?

I have a pretty similar setup in the mids. Your selected DEF rookies will have to sure up during the pre-season for this structure to come off for you.

Good to see someone going hard on SJ

 

[Hank93]

Think you missed the point

I used R1 and R2 as example, lets say its R3 and R4 because you cant understand what im saying or my point. By round 6 he should be quite cheap and premiums would have had 4 rounds to bloom, by picking 2 premiums in that same BYE round it gives me the flexibility to bring in another like Scotland if that were to be the case.

Look at Joel Selwood as a possible example from last year, if he had another down game after that 18 score than his price would have plummeted.

Never said any of the GWS rookies he has picked were weird did i? I said they wont score that well and yet he has 6 of them, 3 in the forwards. I also said they will rotated in and out of them, thus higher potential for donuts and a donut factory. Sheedy has talked them up, woopdie do, name one player Sheedy hasnt talked up in his life that he has coached?

We don't know how any of the rookies are going to perform. It's all complete speculation.

I have absolute no doubt my team will change a billion times.

 

[Hank93]

Think you missed the point

I used R1 and R2 as example, lets say its R3 and R4 because you cant understand what im saying or my point. By round 6 he should be quite cheap and premiums would have had 4 rounds to bloom, by picking 2 premiums in that same BYE round it gives me the flexibility to bring in another like Scotland if that were to be the case.

Look at Joel Selwood as a possible example from last year, if he had another down game after that 18 score than his price would have plummeted.

Never said any of the GWS rookies he has picked were weird did i? I said they wont score that well and yet he has 6 of them, 3 in the forwards. I also said they will rotated in and out of them, thus higher potential for donuts and a donut factory. Sheedy has talked them up, woopdie do, name one player Sheedy hasnt talked up in his life that he has coached?

For the sake of your argument in terms of forward rookies, lets have a look at what options are available outside of GWS.

Milera and Saad (Milera has been injured during the pre season. Saad has never been a high possession player)

Walsh (Key position rookies never score well)

Zorko (Good option, but is now out for 4 weeks)

Kerridge (definitely an option to consider)

Rowe (Already in my team)

Dickson (One to consider)

Smedts (Already in my team)

Cripps (Good potential, but is very expensive for a rookie)

Pfeiffer (Mixed reports on him)

There really isn't many options at all in my opinion. If Dickson, Kerridge or Zorko are playing then I'll probably pick them, but for now the GWS kids look like the better options.

 

[Keystone agony]

We don't know how any of the rookies are going to perform. It's all complete speculation.

I have absolute no doubt my team will change a billion times.

But dont you think that we good a good insight in how 1st year players will score early on in the season in a brand new team? even the highly touted "best number 1 draft pick" avgs like 70 over the first 6 or so rounds from memory. You than have Toy, Prestia, Lynch, Matera,Harris, Dixon ect. Smith avg 70 without any other ruck in the side (different to GWS). Mckenzie was the only one that did better than my expectations really.

I mean every player is their own individual self, but past history has to be considered in selection.

If there isnt value in the rookie forwards, than don't pick 5 of them.

 

[Hank93]

But dont you think that we good a good insight in how 1st year players will score early on in the season in a brand new team? even the highly touted "best number 1 draft pick" avgs like 70 over the first 6 or so rounds from memory. You than have Toy, Prestia, Lynch, Matera,Harris, Dixon ect. Smith avg 70 without any other ruck in the side (different to GWS). Mckenzie was the only one that did better than my expectations really.

I mean every player is their own individual self, but past history has to be considered in selection.

No doubt, but as I posted above the options outside GWS are pretty limited. Zorko will definitely be in my side if he is playing Round 1 but at the moment is out with a hip injury.

Kerridge is one I'll also be watching, but we have no idea what Sando's plans are for the Crows. We have a little more clarity as to which GWS kids will play.

 

[yogibbear]

There is a HUGE difference between Goldcoast Rnd 1 last year and GWS round 1 this year.

Goldcoast had at least a few elite men in their side.

GWS are sooo ridiculously young, that even the 18 yr olds are going to be playing high TOG.

 

[Freo2012]

I have a pretty similar setup in the mids. Your selected DEF rookies will have to sure up during the pre-season for this structure to come off for you.

Good to see someone going hard on SJ

Thanks, will be watching rookies very closely.

I went SJ to keep some cash secured away from spending elsewhere (for easy access before R1) - may need to slightly downgrade him (Beams, Pavlich, Lewis, Goodes) depending on SJ's fitness and what rookies shape up (may need extra cash) - have Morabito as target if he gets selected R1 (Buntine, MClark, Coniglio etc if need be).

No Colonwood players in team yet - prob bring in Swan, Pendles or Beams (maybe 2) as upgrades after their bye and their expected week(s) off in Arizona - no point missing extra weeks of elites not playing. Also have LeCras on close watch to see what Woosha plans to do with him, Kennedy will be interesting too and Cox as possible upgrade if needed (he is a machine). Possibly Rockliff mid upgrade and Suckling/Birchall/Broughton in the backs.

 

[Jobe3votes]

Re: Post your team Part 1

how about this guys

DEF: B. Goddard (StK), C. Enright (Geel), T. Chaplin (PA), P. Puopolo (Haw), M. Buntine (GWS), R. Laird (Adel), J. Boumann (Haw), (J. Heslin (Rich), J. Redpath (WB))

MID: G. Ablett (GC)(c), D. Swan (Coll)(vc), M. Priddis (WCE), B. Deledio (Rich), D. Tyson (GWS), J. Dyson (Bris), (C. Smith (WB), D. Shiel (GWS))

RUC: S. Mumford (Syd), M. Bailey (Haw), (B. Longer (Bris), J. Hamling (Geel))

FWD: N. Fyfe (Frem), R. O'Keefe (Syd), J. Roughead (Haw), L. Dahlhaus (WB), S. Lycett (WCE), C. Hitchcock (PA), S. Gumbleton (Ess), (A. Saad (StK), B. Smedts (Geel))

thought guys?
changes that need to be made?

anything would be great

Plenty of work to do to even be competitive in any dreamteam leaguem, good luck. I can see atleast 14 changes needed. Gumbleton & Hitchcock on Long Term Injury list (atleast 6 weeks out)

 

[Jobe3votes]

Re: Post your team Part 1

ideally 12 changes would be needed.

 

[Blues_FC]

If there isnt value in the rookie forwards, than don't pick 5 of them.

As much as I hate to agree with DWD, he makes a good point above.

If there aren't 5 decent FWD rookies to choose from, then you need to restructure your team to pick up more reliable rookies in other positions.

 

[Jobe3votes]

B: Goddard, Deledio, Shaw, Grimes, Buntine, Clarke, Morris (Spurr, Sierakowski)

M: Pendlebury, Murphy, Selwood, Hodge, Pfeiffer, Shiel (McDonald, Mitchell)

R: Sandilands, Leunberger (Stephensen, Giles)

F: Franklin, Fyfe, Martin, Sidebottom, Rieowldt, Saad, Zorko (Treloar, Kerridge)

Would piss off Buntine & Sandilands. Zorko out 4 weeks injured. Deledio hammy twinge, out 2-3 weeks

 

[Keystone agony]

There is a HUGE difference between Goldcoast Rnd 1 last year and GWS round 1 this year.

Goldcoast had at least a few elite men in their side.

GWS are sooo ridiculously young, that even the 18 yr olds are going to be playing high TOG.

And which team are you gonna score more points in or win more games in?

The GC side with more mature bodies with players who can win the footy and dish it out aswell as a brownlow medalist Ablett and a B@F rischitelli or a very young GWS side.

Remember GWS still have more mature age types than what GC had. GC would have had more 18 year olds on the field each week than what GWS will. Just that GWS mature types are much younger and no where near as good as Ablett, brennan, Rischa, Harbrow, Bock ect

 

[Hank93]

As much as I hate to agree with DWD, he makes a good point above.

If there aren't 5 decent FWD rookies to choose from, then you need to restructure your team to pick up more reliable rookies in other positions.

Fair point, but there really is no point in speculating if they are decent or not as we have no definitive answer. Porplyzia is one I'll strongly consider as a replacement for one of the rookies.

We will have a lot of answers this time next week. If GWS get destroyed in the first NAB cup game against a 2nd string WB and Coll side, then the alarm bells will be ringing loudly.

 

[Unrivaled Mach]

Boyd not in my team atm but may look to squeeze him in. The main deterrent is his price (obviously) and the capability of cheaper mids to match his output.

 

[mehow2g]

Not many people with Morabito is he injured?

 

[CrozaN]

Number 1 after Swan and Pendles anyway

hah, maybe my memory is failing me, but i could have sworn Body finished the top scorer last year . Maybe he did but Swan + Pendles took over in the finals? If those points even carried over on their total scores for the year? Either way Boyd finished top 5 last year and i have barely seen him in any team so far. Then again, i haven't seen Swan much either, i guess their price tags are scaring a few people away.

 

[yogibbear]

Boyd is always unique. He was just as good stats wise last year and he was still unique to start with. I had him from the beginning last year. There is no reason not to get on this year. I think he finished last year with most possessions, but not highest DT.

I think the top 3 midfield starting spots this year are even more likely to be a bit more diverse given the validity of about 10-15 players able to finish in those top 6 positions and a wealth of young talent and underpriced ex-guns. The question is, are there risks out there worth taking, or are they all set to fail? Making up for yourself who you think can finish in the top 6 and deserves to be in your starting 2-3-4 premium mid spots is a huge gamble and probably more important this year than usual.

Keystone agony does have a point about not over estimating GWS rookies and their lack of points due to likely losing pretty much every game asides from when they play Port Adelaide. So maybe we should all be making sure we don't base our team upgrades around trade in cash generated from GWS rookies and just use the valid few that perform in the upcoming NAB comp. for points due to higher TOG than other rookies rather than $$ earned. i.e. if you stack with GWS, you might not get the upgrades you want. Obviously Giles, Shiel etc. are probably locks regardless of what happens, but some of the others might be more fringe.

 

[Papa Juggs]

Saying Boyd is unique is like saying Swan and Pendles are unique.

It's simply not true.

All the top teams were fully cashing in on those points last year and anybody decent has all 3 + other top guns like Montagna, M. Murphy, Bartel or whoever it is that was scoring the highest.

Serious coaches don't care about names, only scores.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

B:Goddard,Deledio,Birchell,S.Burgoyne,M.Clarke,Ellis,Mohr(Smedts,Bugg)

C:Ablett,Selwood,S.Thompson,Cotchin,Hayes,Coniglio,(Wingard,J.McDonald)

R:McIntosh,I.Maric.(Giles,Stevenson)

F:Franklin,Martin,Sidebottom,Le.Cras,Fasolo,Rohan,Zorko.(I.Callinan,T.Adams)

$34,500 left in bank.

Thoughts?

 

[BILC]

OK, take 2

B: Goddard, Deledio, Broughton, Grimes, Clarke, Bower, Ellis (Sierakowski, Brown)

M: Pendlebury, Murphy, Selwood, Hodge, Pfeiffer, Shiel (McDonald, Mitchell)

R: Cox, Leunberger (Giles, Stephensen)

F: Franklin, Fyfe, Martin, Sidebottom, N.Riewoldt, Kennedy, Treolar (Walsh, Kerridge)

 

[RustNeverSleeps]

OK, take 2

B: Goddard, Deledio, Broughton, Grimes, Clarke, Bower, Ellis (Sierakowski, Brown)

M: Pendlebury, Murphy, Selwood, Hodge, Pfeiffer, Shiel (McDonald, Mitchell)

R: Cox, Leunberger (Giles, Stephensen)

F: Franklin, Fyfe, Martin, Sidebottom, N.Riewoldt, Kennedy, Treolar (Walsh, Kerridge)

The fact you're 230k over budget may be an issue. Other than that a commendable effort.

 

[BigVic]

Thoughts on the following:
Grimes v Birch
Martin v Zaharakis
Mummy v Kreuzer
Murphy v Selwood
Sidey v Zaha

 

[CrozaN]

Thoughts on the following:
Grimes v Birch
Martin v Zaharakis
Mummy v Kreuzer
Murphy v Selwood
Sidey v Zaha

IMO in bold.