Post your teams here - 2011 (Part II)

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Edwards, Petrenko, Wojcinski too risky.
Bock has 2 byes in first 9 rounds.

my 1st draft

B - Goddard, Gibbs, Deledio, Enright, Duffield, Otten, Heppell, [X.Clarke, Buckley, Duigan]
C - Swan, Corey, Anthony, Foley, Kerr, Schammer, [D.Swallow, Harris, Atley]
R - Ryder, Petrie, [Charman, Campbell]
F - Franklin, Sylvia, Goodes, N.Riewoldt, Pavlich, Knights, Krakouer, [N.Ablett, Matera, I.Smith]

Corey, Foley, Kerr and Schammer - Out
Bring in Gaff and Mzungu, Upgrade Corey then get another decent player
 
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Edwards, Petrenko, Wojcinski too risky.
Bock has 2 byes in first 9 rounds.

my 1st draft

B - Goddard, Gibbs, Deledio, Enright, Duffield, Otten, Heppell, [X.Clarke, Buckley, Duigan]
C - Swan, Corey, Anthony, Foley, Kerr, Schammer, [D.Swallow, Harris, Atley]
R - Ryder, Petrie, [Charman, Campbell]
F - Franklin, Sylvia, Goodes, N.Riewoldt, Pavlich, Knights, Krakouer, [N.Ablett, Matera, I.Smith]
well i figured that with Woj and Petrenko, both players are in teams that have had quite a few players leave, so their positions are more secure. Edwards had a good improvement last year and played 21 games. So I dont see the risk.

As for your team, backs are solid. Otten coming back from an ACL is a big call, but a good calculated risk.

Mids i dont like Corey. His average last year was his worst for 4 seasons. Im predicting Geelong to slide further down the ladder this year also which means worse scores. Foley and Kerr are very speculative. I like Anthony, but ive already got Swallow from the kangas in my midfield so cant have both with the byes. As for Schammer... he played only 3 games last year. Unless youve got inside info i wouldnt be going near him.

Forwards, Colin Sylvia hasnt played close to a full season. The most being 18 games. Krakouer is very risky also.

Seems like youre really rolling the dice this year :thumbsu:
 
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Edwards, Petrenko, Wojcinski too risky.
Bock has 2 byes in first 9 rounds.

my 1st draft

B - Goddard, Gibbs, Deledio, Enright, Duffield, Otten, Heppell, [X.Clarke, Buckley, Duigan]
C - Swan, Corey, Anthony, Foley, Kerr, Schammer, [D.Swallow, Harris, Atley]
R - Ryder, Petrie, [Charman, Campbell]
F - Franklin, Sylvia, Goodes, N.Riewoldt, Pavlich, Knights, Krakouer, [N.Ablett, Matera, I.Smith]
X.Clarke out, knee reco again. Buckley is very very ambitious pick. Not sure about Charman, N.Ablett. Mids are extremely risky but with upside. No DP links. Lack of rookies is against the norm but i think you've managed your money well and still got a lot of players with upside and good premiums. I don't mind that you haven't capitalised on value in the rookie mids because your mid picks could all be very good.

A re-arranged backline bench and dropping Schammer would drastically improve side in my opinion. Interesting team.
 

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Ok after considering the byes each week (which teams have them when) ive rejigged my team, alot. I've now got 14 DP's (6 D/M, 4 M/F, 2 R/F, 2 D/F). Ive gone round by round and there is no round at least until round 10 where i wont be left short by the rounds where 3 teams have the bye at the same time.

Anyway, team is composed of "modest" backline keepers, solid midfield keepers, premo/mid-price ruck combo, and solid forward keepers.

Backs:
Deledio, Duffield, Grimes, Carrazzo, Bock, Grundy, Heppell (Tape, Smith, Harvey)

Midfield:
Swan, Hayes, Swallow, Gibbs, Polec, Harris (Weller, Mzungu, Hibbard)

Rucks:
Sandilands, Tippett (Smith, Charman)

Forwards:
Didak, Green, Gilbert, Pavlich, Dangerfield, Petrie, Lynch, (Jakobi, Matera, Darling).

Upgrade targets would be:
1) Polec/Mzungu --> Ablett
2) Weller/Harris --> Boyd
3) Lynch/Jakobi --> Franklin
4) Heppell/Tape --> Goddard
5) Tippett/Smith --> Jolly
6) Petrie/Matera --> Riewoldt
7) Dangerfield/Darling --> Goodes.

Well that would be the plan, but ive still got 53 adjustments to make before the season starts because of the NAB cup. Good on paper though right?
 
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Ok, here is my first crack for 2011. This year, I haven't read any forums. Not bigfooty, fanfooty, prospectus, nothing. I haven't even read any of this thread. I've picked my side based on past experience, and the kids who I know from following the draft. I haven't even watched a NAB cup game yet. I've picked mature age rookies, and some players who are cheaper through injury. I have no idea if this is a cookie cutter team or not. Please rate as you see fit.

$58,100 left in the kitty
 
Its interesting the amount of people that have given Swallow the flick for the time being and using the extra cash somewhere else. I wonder what will happen after GC play this week and we get to see exactly what Swallow will be like.
 
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Ok, here is my first crack for 2011. This year, I haven't read any forums. Not bigfooty, fanfooty, prospectus, nothing. I haven't even read any of this thread. I've picked my side based on past experience, and the kids who I know from following the draft. I haven't even watched a NAB cup game yet. I've picked mature age rookies, and some players who are cheaper through injury. I have no idea if this is a cookie cutter team or not. Please rate as you see fit.

$58,100 left in the kitty

Good effort. Round 6 no fwd emg. This is pretty cookie cutter.
 
Ok after considering the byes each week (which teams have them when) ive rejigged my team, alot. I've now got 14 DP's (6 D/M, 4 M/F, 2 R/F, 2 D/F). Ive gone round by round and there is no round at least until round 10 where i wont be left short by the rounds where 3 teams have the bye at the same time.

Anyway, team is composed of "modest" backline keepers, solid midfield keepers, premo/mid-price ruck combo, and solid forward keepers.

Backs:
Deledio, Duffield, Grimes, Carrazzo, Bock, Grundy, Heppell (Tape, Smith, Harvey)

Midfield:
Swan, Hayes, Swallow, Gibbs, Polec, Harris (Weller, Mzungu, Hibbard)

Rucks:
Sandilands, Tippett (Smith, Charman)

Forwards:
Didak, Green, Gilbert, Pavlich, Dangerfield, Petrie, Lynch, (Jakobi, Matera, Darling).

Upgrade targets would be:
1) Polec/Mzungu --> Ablett
2) Weller/Harris --> Boyd
3) Lynch/Jakobi --> Franklin
4) Heppell/Tape --> Goddard
5) Tippett/Smith --> Jolly
6) Petrie/Matera --> Riewoldt
7) Dangerfield/Darling --> Goodes.

Well that would be the plan, but ive still got 53 adjustments to make before the season starts because of the NAB cup. Good on paper though right?

Wow. This is the most unique team i have seen posted on here that isn't horrendous. Great effort. :thumbsu: I have no idea how to rate this team as I can't see any gaping flaws. Everyone is there for a purpose, you've really thought this through. My one worry would be Didak. I think there are better options, given his preseason.
 
Hey guys, early team looks like this. Please rip it up for me. I like it but there is something that doesnt give me that 100% stoked feeling & cant put my finger on it.
Would love your thoughts

Backs - Goddard, Gibbs, Connors, Broughton, Grimes, Otten Toy (Hibberd, Duigan, Puopolo)
Mids - Swan, Boyd, Bartel, Anthony, Gaff, Heppell (Harris, Iles, Callinan)
Rucks - Cox, Petrie (Bailey, Smith)
Forwards - Chapman, Franklin, Sylvia, N Riewoldt, Pavlich, Krakouer, Mzungu (Richardson, Matera, Smith)

If Petrie survives, there's 16 keepers hopefully. Ive had the adcock/knights in or out debate over & over but cant trust them 100% so they are out now in place of Grimes & Pavlich. The other option I keep running is put Knights back in for Pav & upgrade Petrie to Jolly, but I feel I can trust Petrie more than Knights.

Anyway, what do you think? Where are the holes I cant see?
 
Hey guys, early team looks like this. Please rip it up for me. I like it but there is something that doesnt give me that 100% stoked feeling & cant put my finger on it.
Would love your thoughts

Backs - Goddard, Gibbs, Connors, Broughton, Grimes, Otten Toy (Hibberd, Duigan, Puopolo)
Mids - Swan, Boyd, Bartel, Anthony, Gaff, Heppell (Harris, Iles, Callinan)
Rucks - Cox, Petrie (Bailey, Smith)
Forwards - Chapman, Franklin, Sylvia, N Riewoldt, Pavlich, Krakouer, Mzungu (Richardson, Matera, Smith)

If Petrie survives, there's 16 keepers hopefully. Ive had the adcock/knights in or out debate over & over but cant trust them 100% so they are out now in place of Grimes & Pavlich. The other option I keep running is put Knights back in for Pav & upgrade Petrie to Jolly, but I feel I can trust Petrie more than Knights.

Anyway, what do you think? Where are the holes I cant see?


Round 6 you'll be without Chapman, Franklin and Pavlich (And Smith as your EMG). I think just having two of those out together is a bit risky, three is really pushing it. But that's just me. I've got Chapman in my team and will be looking to bring Franklin in with one of my first trades (after that bye is out of the way) depending on his form.
 
I agree with what you're saying, but I've adopted a similar set up to Ethan's, with my rucks. The thinking I used was to get one premium ($300K plus) a cheaper option ($200-280K) who looks like playing, my DPP ruckman (Petrie, Hale, Stanley, or Kurt Tippett) as my No. 3, with one of the others to play as my 7th forward and then a rookie, or cheap option (around the $100K mark) who looks like getting some games. All up, an investment of a little under the $900K mark - ie. around 10% of the overall salary cap. With the DPP forward acting as a 5th ruck, you've probably outlaid $1M, or just over.

By doing this, I reckon I've got pretty good coverage in the rucks and that means I will be far less likely to "have" to use a trade, later in the season, if one of my rucks gets an injury, drops off in form, etc., when I'm trying to dodge byes, with my other ruckmen.

In summary, it's a sort of set and forget attitude with the rucks, other than making a down trade later in the year, to grab some cash. I reckon I can use my money and trades in the other areas, to a much greater effect, than having to all of sudden grab somebody in round 13, because Jolly has the bye, Petrie's been named as the sub and Seaby has been dropped due to some recent poor form. I've still got 2 playing rucks available and I can use my DPP forward coverage option - Hale into the rucks, Petrie onto the forward bench. The following week Jolly is back, Petrie's starting on the interchange and Seaby may get a recall. I haven't burnt a trade and I haven't swallowed a doughnut. Joel Tippett works in the above situation "if" he's getting games. Behind Fraser, Zac Smith and Gorringe, I don't think he'll get much of a run - maybe a couple of games, at best (should become clearer this coming weekend).

The ruck position only allows for 2 bench players, unlike 3 all over the rest of the field. As such, I think you have to be a little more careful with your selections and a guy who sits on the bench all year, doesn't help improve your team.

The extra playing DPP ruck - is it the right way to go? Who knows - but it is a strategy and worth some thinking about. I guess it comes down to starting cash versus trades and if you're not the sort of person who blows their trades, then save the cash. If you value trades, then a little cash on your ruck bench, may save you later in the year.

What happens if your premium ruck gets hurt? Having a ruck consisting of a cheapie and a DP player like K.Tippett is not an attractive proposition.

Much better off with 2 x Premiums and 2 x Rookies who are a chance of playing (eg Moran, Smith). If one of the premiums goes down for any length of time, then use a trade to another premium. Nett result will be much better at seasons end.
 
Round 6 you'll be without Chapman, Franklin and Pavlich (And Smith as your EMG). I think just having two of those out together is a bit risky, three is really pushing it. But that's just me. I've got Chapman in my team and will be looking to bring Franklin in with one of my first trades (after that bye is out of the way) depending on his form.
Thanks Juddy. Actually 4 out with Mzungu as well now that I look again, so I'll have to reconsider that fwd setup.
Funny how you can lok at it over and over and not see something as obvious as that.
Cheers.
 
Hey fellas would love your advice on my team.

Backs: Goddard, Gibbs, Deledio, Broughton, Grimes, Otten, Duigan (Toy, Coad, Puopolo)

Mids: Swan, Boyd, Bartel, Anthony, Harris, Mzungu (Heppel, Weller, Atley)

Rucks: Jolly, Cox (Smith, Tippet)

Forwards: Franklin, Sylvia, Riewoldt, Higgins, Morton, Petrie, Krakouer (Richardson, Matera, Callinan)

Thanks in advance. Be nice Yogi.
 

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Thanks Juddy. Actually 4 out with Mzungu as well now that I look again, so I'll have to reconsider that fwd setup.
Funny how you can lok at it over and over and not see something as obvious as that.
Cheers.

Actually it's 5 out rnd 6... :thumbsdown: (though only 4 if you swap Callinan) so..... instant ZERO provide ALL your rookies play... which is highly improbable.
 
Hey fellas would love your advice on my team.

Backs: Goddard, Gibbs, Deledio, Broughton, Grimes, Otten, Duigan (Toy, Coad, Puopolo)

Mids: Swan, Boyd, Bartel, Anthony, Harris, Mzungu (Heppel, Weller, Atley)

Rucks: Jolly, Cox (Smith, Tippet)

Forwards: Franklin, Sylvia, Riewoldt, Higgins, Morton, Petrie, Krakouer (Richardson, Matera, Callinan)

Thanks in advance. Be nice Yogi.

Good side. Though the obvious omission is one of Chappie/SJ. I'm interested as to why no I. Smith if you are skipping on the geelong fwds? (Surely that's the upside of not picking them if you're worried about new coach/tactics and their durability worries).
 
BACKS: B Goddard, B Gibbs, B Deledio, G Broughton, A Otten, D Heppell, J Toy (P Faulks, P Puopolo, N Duigan)
MIDS: D Swan, M Boyd, L Montagna, K Simpson, T Boak, D Swallow (A Gaff, T Mzungu, M Hibberd)
RUCKS: A Sandilands, D Petrie (Z Smith, anyone of Campbell/Bailey/Lobbe)
FWDS: P Chapman, C Sylvia, N Riewoldt, M Morton, K Tippett, A Krakouer, B Matera (C Richardson, I Smith, I Callinan)

Cash left - $20,600

Overall, pretty happy with the structure of my side. Have all DP links covered (except def/fwd), and a nice blend of premiums and rookies. I'm toying with the idea of ditching the Petrie/Tippett combo, and doing something like a Leuenberger/rookie, and upgrading Faulks to a solid mid-priced defender like a Grundy.

Thoughts?
 
What happens if your premium ruck gets hurt? Having a ruck consisting of a cheapie and a DP player like K.Tippett is not an attractive proposition.

Much better off with 2 x Premiums and 2 x Rookies who are a chance of playing (eg Moran, Smith). If one of the premiums goes down for any length of time, then use a trade to another premium. Nett result will be much better at seasons end.

The big point I'm trying to make is that you have 3 players on your bench in the midfield, defence and forwards and only 2 in your rucks. You're also more likely to play your emergency cards across those 3 parts of the field and not your rucks. As such, pick 2 duds to sit on your rucks bench, doing nothing but saving you some initial cash, at your own peril. Ethan's solution was to have Petrie in his forward line, with Hale sitting in the No. 3 slot, for rucks. The question that was being asked was why would you want to park the extra bucks on the bench - Hale @ $185K, versus Joel Tippett for $114K?

Moran is a great smokey - he's shown some ability in the past and at $98K is solid value. The problem is whether with Jacobs there, Kurt Tippett perhaps pinch hitting as the back-up ruckmen, plus big Ivan, where does he sit in the pecking order? Josh Fraser will probably do the bulk of the work at Gold Coast and whilst I'm sure Zac Smith will get games, I'm not sure how big a role he will play in the GC game plan - ie. how often he'll be wearing the subs vest. Hale will get game time, as will Petrie - that looks to be fairly certain. Is that certainty of having 2 or 3 (maybe even 4) playing rucks, without the need to use a trade, worth the extra $70K..............?

If a premium ruck goes down with injury, suspension or form, that will hit home no matter which strategy you've adopted. If you have a playing No. 3 ruck, you can cover a short term loss, without making a trade and / or dropping a lot of points each round. If your No. 3 & even No. 4 ruck are getting a game here and there, or only playing bits of games, then you're probably going to have to make a trade. If it's long term problem, you're stuffed either way.
 
Ok after considering the byes each week (which teams have them when) ive rejigged my team, alot. I've now got 14 DP's (6 D/M, 4 M/F, 2 R/F, 2 D/F). Ive gone round by round and there is no round at least until round 10 where i wont be left short by the rounds where 3 teams have the bye at the same time.

Anyway, team is composed of "modest" backline keepers, solid midfield keepers, premo/mid-price ruck combo, and solid forward keepers.

Backs:
Deledio, Duffield, Grimes, Carrazzo, Bock, Grundy, Heppell (Tape, Smith, Harvey)

Midfield:
Swan, Hayes, Swallow, Gibbs, Polec, Harris (Weller, Mzungu, Hibbard)

Rucks:
Sandilands, Tippett (Smith, Charman)

Forwards:
Didak, Green, Gilbert, Pavlich, Dangerfield, Petrie, Lynch, (Jakobi, Matera, Darling).

Upgrade targets would be:
1) Polec/Mzungu --> Ablett
2) Weller/Harris --> Boyd
3) Lynch/Jakobi --> Franklin
4) Heppell/Tape --> Goddard
5) Tippett/Smith --> Jolly
6) Petrie/Matera --> Riewoldt
7) Dangerfield/Darling --> Goodes.

Well that would be the plan, but ive still got 53 adjustments to make before the season starts because of the NAB cup. Good on paper though right?

Unique as Yogibear put it, is one word that leaps to mind. With regards to your upgrade targets - in the immortal words of Dennis Cometti - "That's ambitious!"

I think there is a couple of players on that upgrade list, that you have to start with, or accept that you're betting on them having a crap year - Ablett being an exception, because of the 2 early byes.

Boyd is a must - I'm confident he'll knock out 110's on a weekly basis, with the odd big ton. He'll could well outscore Swannie this year, or be in very close company. So, I don't think he'll get any cheaper. As much as I hate to say it, maybe in place of Hayes, with Hayes your upgrade target, all going well.

Goddard as a defender, has to be a starter. You're betting on him having a crap game in the first 3 rounds, if you don't start him. If he has 3 good games - he's gone. You're then playing catch-up and paying a premium, if you want him down the track.

Didak hasn't had much of a pre-season, thus far (shoulder surgery). Nic Riewoldt will not get any better, so far as value goes. It does make sense, when you look at the values - think about it! Buddy is great, but the tribunal has it in for him and Goodsie could split his time between half-forward and midfield, which could be great, or crap.
 
Back: Goddard, Gibbs, Deledio, Grimes, Adcock, Otten, Heppell, Toy, Watson, Puopolo

Mids: Swan, Boyd, Bartel, Burgoyne, N. Foley, Atley, D. Swallow, Harris, I. Smith.

Rucks: Sandilands, Mumford, Z. Smith, Campbell

Fwds: Franklin, Sylvia, Johnson, Giansiracusa, Knights, Petrie, Krakouer, Mzungu, Richardson, Callinan

$3,400 remaining.

A few of my first year players may be changed around depending on the preseason and I need to keep an eye on some of the players coming back from injury, but I think this team should go alright. Any thoughts?
 
Have taken some punts on some younger players, especially midfield. Please let me know what you think and what you think i should change

Backs:
Goddard, Gibbs, Grimes, Adcock, Nicoski, Otten, Heppell (Coad, Toy, Puopolo)

Midfield:
Boyd, Bartel, Anthony, Sidebottom, S.Selwood, D.Swallow (Krakouer, Harris, Atley)

Rucks:
Sandilands, Cox (Smith, Campbell)

Forwards:
Chapman, Franklin, Didak, N.Riewoldt, Pavlich, T.Lynch, Mzungu (Prestia, Matera, I.Smith).
 
B: Goddard - Enright - Malceski - Carrazzo - Adcock - Jacobs - Faulks EMG: Toy - Duigan - Talia

C: Swan - Montagna - Pendlebury - Silvia - Swallow - Mzungu EMG: Cona - Blease - Parker

R: Cox - Kreuzer EMG: Smith - Campbell

F: Didak - S. Johnson - Pavlich - Stokes - LeCras - Jurrah - Astbury EMG: N. Ablett - Matera - Lamb

Thoughts?
 
Have taken some punts on some younger players, especially midfield. Please let me know what you think and what you think i should change

Backs:
Goddard, Gibbs, Grimes, Adcock, Nicoski, Otten, Heppell (Coad, Toy, Puopolo)

Midfield:
Boyd, Bartel, Anthony, Sidebottom, S.Selwood, D.Swallow (Krakouer, Harris, Atley)

Rucks:
Sandilands, Cox (Smith, Campbell)

Forwards:
Chapman, Franklin, Didak, N.Riewoldt, Pavlich, T.Lynch, Mzungu (Prestia, Matera, I.Smith).




First to go. Finished as a footballer.
 
Ok second draft.

Defenders
Goddard, B - Gibbs, B - Gilbert, S - Rawlings, B - Malceski, N - Otten, A - Heppell, D

Howard, C - Toy, J - Duigan, N

Midfielders
Swan, D - Selwood, J - Pavlich, M - 11. Jack, K - Swallow, D - Gaff, A

Mzungu, T - Wallis, M - Callinan, I

Rucks
Cox, D - Seaby, M

Petrie, D - Smith, Z


Forwards
Chapman, P - Green, B - Riewoldt, N - O'Keefe, R - Watts, J - Krakouer, A - Matera, B

Richardson, C - Lamb, J - Smith, I


I have 110k left so i have to upgrade somewhere... i'm thinking my forwards or maybe ruck and forwards...

thoughts?
 
Ok second draft.

Defenders
Goddard, B - Gibbs, B - Gilbert, S - Rawlings, B - Malceski, N - Otten, A - Heppell, D

Howard, C - Toy, J - Duigan, N

Midfielders
Swan, D - Selwood, J - Pavlich, M - 11. Jack, K - Swallow, D - Gaff, A

Mzungu, T - Wallis, M - Callinan, I

Rucks
Cox, D - Seaby, M

Petrie, D - Smith, Z


Forwards
Chapman, P - Green, B - Riewoldt, N - O'Keefe, R - Watts, J - Krakouer, A - Matera, B

Richardson, C - Lamb, J - Smith, I


I have 110k left so i have to upgrade somewhere... i'm thinking my forwards or maybe ruck and forwards...

thoughts?

I really like this team. It's very unique and has the potential to score well.

Only criticisms would be lack of a DP link between def & mids. And Seaby as your second ruck. Can't see him getting too many games or much game time with Mummy now established as first ruck. Would be a sub if selected I would think...if you're wanting a 200k player for your second ruck, try Fraser or Jackson Trengove who will be in their sides best 20 this year.
 
Some minor tweaks since my last stab, but I think I'm getting close to what I'm gonna head in with:

Backs: Goddard, Gibbs, Broughton, Deledio, Grimes, Otten, Coad
Subs: Jacobs, Pedersen, Talia

Midfield: Swan, Boyd, Montagna, Anthony, Krakouer, D. Swallow
Subs: Heppell, Mzungu, Callinan

Ruck: Sandi, Petrie
Subs: Z. Smith, Campbell

Forward: Didak, SJ, Riewoldt, Rioli, C. Knights, Petterd, Prestia
Subs: Tapscott, Lamb, Daw

I think the only thing I might change are the subs, depending on how they go in the NAB Cup.

But my keepers are pretty solid, the core of my team is set. I have enough DPP to cover losses and byes, and plenty of room to make $$$ and upgrade.

Feel free to criticise if I'm wrong.
 
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