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I'd hope if we came back at them with proof of other clubs breaching that those clubs should be getting the same punishments handed out. It should be even justice for all not wack one club / group of players and the others get no punishment

What punishment did we actually cop? No fines. No draft picks (Thank fk). No actual player suspensions. No docking of wins. One non-critical staff member stood down for 6, predominantly football free weeks(arguably doing us a favour) and each player received a 1 week "suspended" sentence.

For all we know similar suspensions have been handed down "behind the scenes" on the proviso things are kept "hush hush".

The AFL don't want any of this coming out. We just happened to be the idiots who got caught and have a relatively hostile relationship with large portions of the victorian media.

Of course it was. I've just about had enough of those Powaa ferals and their chip on their shoulder. The annoying part is that we should be grounding that sad excuse for a club into the ground but our leadership is non existent.

Watching footy classified with manure hosting is pretty funny. Trotting out the usual stuff from the last 3 years. These clowns have no idea how to promote a game. No mention of Rob Chapman I noticed. Is he an endangered species? They obviously know that if they don't mention him he may continue on to the detriment of the club.

Yeah, I think that club would be under a shit tonne more pressure if we had our house in order. They're probably very lucky that their fans have a relative "small brother" syndrome and care more about hanging shit on us than actually how successful their club is.

I have more personality than Bob Murphy 😂

It was very interesting sifting through Jason Akermanis' egotistical ramblings on the "Sacked" podcast. He suggested that there was the "A-team" or something, basically a clique of 6 senior players who essentially ran the club. If you weren't in with them, you were frozen out and shunned. This influence has now extended to the media as well, he mentioned a few were in the media (I gather Luke Darcy, Brad Johnson and Bob Murphy were part of it). I wonder if this has had a bit to do with Bob Murphy suddenly becoming a Victorian "media darling" over the past 3-4 years. The media's fawning over his last couple of years was pretty vomit worthy really.


So I'm very, very reticent to say this, but, in light of the recent record coming out of the Crows, and the endlessly pathetic mistakes being made (really amateur stuff), was he right all along? Are we a real football club, with passion for the jumper, or are we a plastic club that is run for the corporates and so the board can have functions to back slap each other?

Whilst writing one of my other posts earlier I started to come to a similar realisation.

The club's probably lucky in a way that print media has really started to die out and that Rucci has struggled with the advent of social media. He's really become a bit of a non-event. I understand he's probably stepped back a bit, but how much of that is due to the changing media landscape anyway?

Rucci may have been more right than we want to admit with some of his ramblings, but the trouble he had, is they came across as the bitter ramblings of a Port Adelaide tragic. He was/is despised by Crows fans, so as much as he may, and I do say may here, have been onto something, no one was ever going to seriously listen to him.

She went on past sour last night mentioning the Camp a number of times and feeding Manure and Cornes with things to go on with . It was a total hate session. How does McClure get a gig on any show as well. He doesn't appear to be liked by his co hosts on other shows.

My understanding, from reasonable sources, is that there was a lot brushed under the rug with this camp and that we got off very lightly.

Having said that, she has to move on. I don't mind people challenging our administration, God knows it needs to happen, if she want's to actually push change, she has to move onto the next issue (of which there are many). Unlike the Tippett fiasco, in the case of the camp, her big "exposé" amounted to nothing, so she's going to keep at it.

I don’t think Pyke would have made it, too much Neil Craig footy philosophy for mine. But still should have been a good coach worthy of at least a couple more years. But he had no hope with Campo and Burton around. But, all reports were that he rated Campo highly and wasn’t lumped with him in any way. At end of 2017 he had the capital to get what he wanted. He chose to blame the players, accepted or drove the coaching changes and ended up going down with his ship. I don’t feel sorry for him at all, but I’ve no doubt he could have left with a better reputation than he did.

I think Pyke was a good option at the time, we needed someone who was experienced enough to handle the situation and still actually get the guys back to purpose given we were in a proverbial "premiership window". However his tenure was always going to be emotionally charged and he was probably never going to be a longer term coach. His post playing history alone was littered with 2 year tenures in different roles.

I don’t think they ignored AFLW. SA were always getting one team to start with and they were brilliantly outmanoeuvred by Fagan when he joined forces with the NT. They had to save face and rather than admit we won. They’d signed Erin Phillips to some role hadn’t they? A second SA team would always be in the last couple of expansions. I’m sure they’ll put their hand up as soon as the AFL ask and pay. Might be a while now though.

Port were initially "all in" for an AFLW side and their signing of Erin Phillips was front page of the Tiser I believe, announcing her as the "face of their team".

However the Crows' deal with the NT was a master-stroke. Initially plans were for a 6 team comp, from memory 4 victorian, a WA and a QLD I believe. SA weren't thought to have strong enough Women's participation to warrant a team. NT had quite a strong women's following though, so bringing them on board legitimised our bid, prior to that I don't think SA were assured a team at all. Port pulled out I think in part to save face, but probably because without the NT partnership they weren't a chance and not worth wasting money on it. China may have been thought a better fish to fry at the time.

WRT your last sentence there, a very interesting point. The AFL had planned on increasing AFLW to 18 teams I believe within the next 1-2 years. Does COVID slow this down? And potentially for the better. I think there needs to be a period of consolidation to build the talent base. Is it any surprise that our 2 premiership years were the 2 years that Erin Phillips was fit and firing? There's still a massive difference between the best and the rest in the competition. Its improving, but I think expanding too quickly will hurt that.

Somewhat related, but I heard a few years ago that Shaun Micallef's alleged rate was $30-40k to MC an evening event...not sure if it's right but there you go.

Roo allegedly on $350k for his MMM work

Apparently Pete Evans was sacked by MKR (was on $800k) - https://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/pete-evans-next-move-after-mkr-dumping/4012271/

I'd almost say that's a little light on compared to what else is thrown about. He basically is "Triple M Adelaide", Dittmar is a competent radio performer, but he's nothing without Ricciuto as the key personality. I imagine though that there's a personal deal struck between Roo and Ditts to get payed equally. Ie together they're worth $700k, Roo could command $500k of that, but chooses not to. Potentially smart move, as money can destroy relationships, there is no show and no money.
 
Just read there are 1800 AFL acredited journalist...its no wonder any story gets blown out of proportion. Need to cull that by 3/4. Even then that's too many. Have to make up stories to be heard.
WTF thats 2 journalists for every player
 
I am surprised it is that much, although to be fair that probably involves calling football on weekends, the fishing show he pre records and alot of promotional events.

He rates well so he wouldn't be easy to replace.
I would take many people ahead of Rowey. Including several former Power players like tredders and ginever
 
Imagine if a miracle happened and we won the flag. It'll all go back to those 8 players last Thursday.

Victoria will explode.
If only that was a chance of happening. It would be the sweetest one of them all, and we would never, never let them forget
 


I thought Tom summarised our admin well in this tweet, and is probably being polite.

If the media criticised us like this, a lot more people would take notice. When they do their hysterical attacks, it can be more easily dismissed
 
I read a piece today sorry can’t find it to quote
There are strict Administrative procedures in place regarding Football Department and the player payments as an example
Did anyone read this ?
In any case I think as members ( I am AFLW as to my location and support)
How do we know what they are ?

Can we trust AFC to comply ?
 

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No question that's more likely, both are extremely unlikely still.

Is it extremely unlikely?

We've already lost one of the few wins you'd have pencilled in- at home, to a poor opposition.
 
Bernie Vince was absolutely certain on the Rush Hour last night that the AFL is aware of a few other breaches of training protocols by other clubs in Victoria. Given he has a lot of close contacts in the industry, can’t see why he would say this without having heard solid intel from those people. He’s definitely not the type of bloke to go with an unverified rumour given his disdain for certain people in the media who make up shit.
 
Bernie Vince was absolutely certain on the Rush Hour last night that the AFL is aware of a few other breaches of training protocols by other clubs in Victoria. Given he has a lot of close contacts in the industry, can’t see why he would say this without having heard solid intel from those people. He’s definitely not the type of bloke to go with an unverified rumour given his disdain for certain people in the media who make up shit.
There's no doubt there has been, Jono Brown said it too and Nick Riewoldt said he wouldn't be shocked.
 
If the media criticised us like this, a lot more people would take notice. When they do their hysterical attacks, it can be more easily dismissed
Agreed, only a few scribes seem to be able to keep feom getting hysterical.

But that's our fault as fans too, becuase we click on it.
 
“Make no mistake, I want our Members and supporters to know that our Club is blessed to have such a quality group of young players because those young men have taken a bullet for me”

I wasn’t sure - great to know... thanks Ben.
EFA
 
You don't need a lot of employees to run a radio station and they make bank on ads.

So the hosts get big bucks
There is big bucks & ridiculously overpaid bucks for a numpty!
 
Bernie Vince was absolutely certain on the Rush Hour last night that the AFL is aware of a few other breaches of training protocols by other clubs in Victoria. Given he has a lot of close contacts in the industry, can’t see why he would say this without having heard solid intel from those people. He’s definitely not the type of bloke to go with an unverified rumour given his disdain for certain people in the media who make up shit.
There's no doubt there has been, Jono Brown said it too and Nick Riewoldt said he wouldn't be shocked.
Sounds like the Essendon drug saga where there was suspicion other clubs were exploring, or even crossing the boundaries. Obviously without the drama
 
Bernie Vince was absolutely certain on the Rush Hour last night that the AFL is aware of a few other breaches of training protocols by other clubs in Victoria. Given he has a lot of close contacts in the industry, can’t see why he would say this without having heard solid intel from those people. He’s definitely not the type of bloke to go with an unverified rumour given his disdain for certain people in the media who make up shit.
Jonathan Brown also said this on Fox Footy. I must admit I always liked Lyon but the way he carried on here made me totally lose respect for the guy. At least Riewoldt and Brown weren't buying into the sensationalism.

Lyon: OK so they’re a law unto themselves?

Brown: They’re not. They’ve gone and made a mistake, I don’t think they would’ve set out at the start of the session and said: ‘Righto, what we’re going to do at the end of the session is we’re going to get in a group of eight …’

Lyon: Hang on, you said there were others that were doing it?

Brown: Absolutely there would be, mate.
 
Jonathan Brown also said this on Fox Footy. I must admit I always liked Lyon but the way he carried on here made me totally lose respect for the guy. At least Riewoldt and Brown weren't buying into the sensationalism.

Lyon: OK so they’re a law unto themselves?

Brown: They’re not. They’ve gone and made a mistake, I don’t think they would’ve set out at the start of the session and said: ‘Righto, what we’re going to do at the end of the session is we’re going to get in a group of eight …’

Lyon: Hang on, you said there were others that were doing it?

Brown: Absolutely there would be, mate.
I laughed when Caro said on FC last night all the club bosses she spoke to were livid with Adelaide. Later in the program Geoff Walsh interview. ‘They made a mistake, it wasn’t a big deal’

Caro repeats later in the program ‘Club bosses furious’ .. ‘Which clubs Caro?’ .. crickets
 

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