Potential training breach?

[Mego Red]

The SA Chief Public Health Officer tells Roo & Ditts why they banned footy teams from travelling. "It's got nothing to do with [the Barossa training breach]"

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[GameofSloanes]

The SA Chief Public Health Officer tells Roo & Ditts why they banned footy teams from travelling. "It's got nothing to do with [the Barossa training breach]"

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Said the same on 5AA. Did anyone apart from the Vic media believe it was?

 

[brucetiki]

Said the same on 5AA. Did anyone apart from the Vic media believe it was?

Let's see - Victoria (despite having some of the strictest COVID 19 restrictions in the country), still hasn't got the disease under control yet.

South Australia (despite having some of the most relaxed COVID 19 restrictions in the country), has the disease all but eliminated.

Yet it's a training misunderstanding that's caused SA Health to not lift restrictions on AFL players according to some people desperate to keep themselves relevant at this time. As much as it'll set both us (and Port) and the AFL back in planning on a return to action, this is the right call by SA Health until Victoria get their crap together.

 

[Eagleboy2011]

The SA Chief Public Health Officer tells Roo & Ditts why they banned footy teams from travelling. "It's got nothing to do with [the Barossa training breach]"

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Professort Nicola Spurrier, the Chief Public Health Officer for South Australia
One thing she was absolutely adamant on: the decision was totally unrelated to the Crows training breach in the Barossa.

"It's got nothing to do with that. That's absolutely a separate thing."

Translated into FC terms it means the Crows were totally the reason. Caro is correct

 

[GameofSloanes]

I was looking forward to hearing the Vic media discuss how the comp would have to ensure an even playing field for all clubs in light of this news. Ha! Not really.

South Australia health concerns a major hiccup for AFL restart plans

AFL is battling to win over South Australian health officials after their application for a quarantine exemption was rebuffed again.

www.theage.com.au

Article includes a clip from Footy Classified with Eddie and Caro basically blaming the Crows.

Typical Vics. Nicole Spurrier has stated it has nothing to do with us. But don't let the facts get in the way.
Personally think it's good to have a government that cares more about the health of its citizens than whether entitled football competitions can play sport

 

[1970crow]

Would they know what the club has and hasn’t got clearance for?

No they wouldn’t. They’d know the basics and that the club got special clearance. They wouldn’t know where it starts and stops and would assume that the instructions take it into account. The AFL made it clear to what degree everyone was at fault, Roo just had the unnecessary need to throw a bit of mud to make his idiot mate look better than he is. Roo’s motivation is pretty clear and pretty consistent with total club culture.

This is out there. There was a manager of the Alice Springs Golf Club, absolutely hopeless he was and has proven again on his second crack. Of the facility, he once said to me that if not for the golfers, it would perform much better. He’s chewed through cash both times he’s run the place and is just purely incompetent. Club has made very good money with a good committee combined with good manager, the golfers are not the problem. I get the feeling that a bit of that exists amongst our board and admin. They’re convinced they get everything right but yet the players continually let them down resulting in external pressure and criticism. And that creates a wedge, especially with the higher level egos.

I’m not suggesting anyone is as stupid as my old mate and saying, “without the footy team, this would be a great footy club”. But there is a divide and there’s a lot less tolerance for players making mistakes than staff.

 

[BRL121]

It's a pity that all the VIC teams will have to relocate to an interstate hub to keep the competition within the AFL fairness guidelines.

 

[radiojake]

The narrative has been set

It'll be Adelaide's fault if there is no footy

Everyone needs a scapegoat

 

[Geoffa32]

So the Footy.media are blaming our club. Despite the CMO for our State saying contrary.

If the events during COVID around Footy don't make people realise how.entitled the Footy industry is and the bubble it operates in nothing will.

It really is a nothing industry. Entertainment that pays a group of 20/30somethings to entertain us. We pay money to be entertained, they put in a show. That is it. None of us average citizens really "belong" to these clubs. As evident by the hoops they are all putting up to get refunds on season ticket fees.

Apart from entertainment they provide nothing.

I am not talking about the sport overall, just the industry around it.

The CMO of our State is a far more learned person then anyone in that industry with far more responsibility than just providing entertainment. There is no way her (and the team of profesionals who helped make the decision) were swayed by the Footy Industry.

To suggest otherwise is an insult and Caro and her ilk should be ashamed of themselves.

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[brucetiki]

The narrative has been set

It'll be Adelaide's fault if there is no footy

Everyone needs a scapegoat

And that'll be despite the fact the WA government have also ruled out relaxing their rules for West Coast and Fremantle.

 

[chazwazza]

So the Footy.media are blaming our club. Despite the CMO for our State saying contrary.

If the events during COVID around Footy don't make people realise how.entitled the Footy industry is and the bubble it operates in nothing will.

It really is a nothing industry. Entertainment that pays a group of 20/30somethings to entertain us. We pay money to be entertained, they put in a show. That is it. None of us average citizens really "belong" to these clubs. As evident by the hoops they are all putting up to get refunds on season ticket fees.

Apart from entertainment they provide nothing.

I am not talking about the sport overall, just the industry around it.

The CMO of our State is a far more learned person then anyone in that industry with far more responsibility than just providing entertainment. There is no way her (and the team of profesionals who helped make the decision) were swayed by the Footy Industry.

To suggest otherwise is an insult and Caro and her ilk should be ashamed of themselves.

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Well said

 

[beartoo]

Let's see - Victoria (despite having some of the strictest COVID 19 restrictions in the country), still hasn't got the disease under control yet.

South Australia (despite having some of the most relaxed COVID 19 restrictions in the country), has the disease all but eliminated.

Yet it's a training misunderstanding that's caused SA Health to not lift restrictions on AFL players according to some people desperate to keep themselves relevant at this time. As much as it'll set both us (and Port) and the AFL back in planning on a return to action, this is the right call by SA Health until Victoria get their crap together.

I'm no health expert, but the minimal amount of infections in this country does not say 'pandemic'. Even in Vic, which has the most, this is so minor as to be insignificant. Sure, keep borders closed and take precautions, but it's time to loosen the restrictions nationwide. There is no risk to the SA public by having a couple of footy teams fly in and out. We can still take precautions. I have the feeling that our political 'leaders' and health officials are revelling in their power to control us all.

 

[glengowan]

How much would’ve it cost the Crows to have their players stay at the Barossa? Given all the cuts, it seems to me this was already an unnecessary excessive cost.

 

[arrowman]

Typical Vics. Nicole Spurrier has stated it has nothing to do with us. But don't let the facts get in the way.

I suspect that Steven Marshall would love to say:

"Of course we are conscious of the desire of our footy supporters to see AFL being played in our State. Unfortunately, given the Victorian Government's inability to adequately control COVID-19 in that State, it would not be responsible for us to allow player movement across the border at this time. It is unfortunate that this situation is being exacerbated by the disproportionate number and influence of Victorian-based clubs in the national competition."

 

[arrowman]

I'm no health expert, but the minimal amount of infections in this country does not say 'pandemic'. Even in Vic, which has the most, this is so minor as to be insignificant.

I've got some sympathy for that view, but that "minimal amount of infections" is due, in large part, to the restrictions to date. I think the timeline we are on is about right (in fact it's what I expected a couple of months ago), my only concern is that the authorities will over-react to a minor setback and clamp back down.

Bur we're 5 goals up at 3Q time. Let's not flirt with that.

 

[AFC3000]

How much would’ve it cost the Crows to have their players stay at the Barossa? Given all the cuts, it seems to me this was already an unnecessary excessive cost.

Adam Kelly claimed it didn't cost the club anything. He said the players paid for some of it and the rest was paid by a couple of individuals involved with the club (perhaps after the negative response though?)

 

[Geoffa32]

I'm no health expert, but the minimal amount of infections in this country does not say 'pandemic'. Even in Vic, which has the most, this is so minor as to be insignificant. Sure, keep borders closed and take precautions, but it's time to loosen the restrictions nationwide. There is no risk to the SA public by having a couple of footy teams fly in and out. We can still take precautions. I have the feeling that our political 'leaders' and health officials are revelling in their power to control us all.

It is a bit like the Y2K bug.

Nothing happened. Many cried it was a joke that it was taken so seriously. But nothing happened because a lot of work went on behind the scenes to fix all the affected systems.

The reason our country has had such a low infection rate is the work that has been put in to make it that way.

Even Victoria has a quite low infection rate on a global scale.

I do agree with relaxing some aspects within our State. By why allow AFL Footy Teams to FIFO so that Football can be played here at an empty Adelaide Oval.

What value does that add to our State, compared to the risk.


You can still watch them on TV, as you would if they played at AO. From a Footy perspective it also gives our players exposure/experience in playing at a different ground.

We may even get more than our token one or two games at the G this season.

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[Jack is Back]

BREAKING NEWS;
Carolyn Wilson can now confirm that the Adelaide Crows may have been responsible for the Cedar Meats Coronavirus outbreak. An unknown source has confirmed a possible link between the outbreak and the Barossa Crows. Apparently the non-vegan players at the luxurious Barossa Resort all eat rump steak on Sunday night. You do the maths” said the multi-award winning journalist.

This is just another example of the Crows attempting to destroy the AFL said Wilson. I have it on good authority that the original 14 day isolation period for people entering South Australia was prompted by the Crows 2017 camp on the Gold Coast. “They were crammed into a bus, passed around a talking stick and tied naked players to trees. This is just the type of behaviour that could enable coronavirus to wipe out a community”. The WA government, a state that shares the longest state border in Australia with SA, were so concerned with the Crows behaviour in 2017 that they decided the only responsible action was to also institute a 14 day quarantine period to prevent any Crows entering the state.

In unrelated news, Caro has nominated Melbourne Coach Simon Goodwin for the community selflessness award. When asked how he felt about the possibility of playing HOME matches against WA and SA teams in Queensland Goodwin said “It’s not ideal but if it is required by the AFL we will accept it”. It is expected that Melbourne will play as few as 13 of their remaining 16 games in Melbourne.

 

[kirky]

Essendon players didn't question 'experts' on what's being injected into their bodies... so it seems like it's a common 'trust the higher ups' thing.

Not super bright

Agree - footy players are generally not the smartest tools in the shed. They are good at football. A few get decent jobs outside after footy life but a lot stay in the footy world - be the media or assistant or working in the footy club. Sometimes you have to question, do they actually know what it is like in the real world.

I also put teachers in the same category into relation being in the real world - spend 12 years at school, then more years at Uni then back to teach at school. No life experience outside the education system.

 

[SugarShane]

It is a bit like the Y2K bug.

Nothing happened. Many cried it was a joke that it was taken so seriously. But nothing happened because a lot of work went on behind the scenes to fix all the affected systems.

Bingo. When the ball dropped on 1/1/00 and planes didn't fall out of the sky and prison gates didn't open there was a lot of "Y2K? Pfft, what a fizzer."

It was only a fizzer because IT professionals spent hours and hours upgrading systems and protocols and governments spent millions and millions of dollars to ensure it went off without a hitch.

It's the IT industry paradox.
"Everything always works, why do we pay you?"
"Everything's always breaking, why do we pay you?"

 

[WetCrow1991]

Gill forgets himself.

 

[DJ75]

I really have zero interest in the season continuing.

Right now, I hope we (SA) keep the borders shut and that within SA we are able to return to normal as much as possible.
I'd rather us have junior sport etc... being played each weekend within SA, than have any risk of new infections in SA because the AFL clubs were flying in and out of Melbourne. Melbourne is not out of the woods yet in terms of Covid infections, so I don't want anything to do with them.

In terms of AFL, if they want to send all teams to Fiji to play, go for it. I couldn't care less. If our club said, thanks, but we can't be involved, I wouldn't be fussed at all.
It's 100% a Victorian competition as we have always known. This debacle just shows how entrenched that bias is.

In reality, the Victorian clubs should have been coming to SA, WA and NT, undergoing two weeks of quarantine and then the season could have been held with minimal risk. But you know, Victorian 'fairness' and all of that....

 

[DJ75]

Gill forgets himself.

Gill is nothing but a puppet. He's the most spineless leader in Australia.

 

[arrowman]

Bingo. When the ball dropped on 1/1/00 and planes didn't fall out of the sky and prison gates didn't open there was a lot of "Y2K? Pfft, what a fizzer."

It was only a fizzer because IT professionals spent hours and hours upgrading systems and protocols and governments spent millions and millions of dollars to ensure it went off without a hitch.

It's the IT industry paradox.
"Everything always works, why do we pay you?"
"Everything's always breaking, why do we pay you?"

Yep, I was there and personally saw systems that would have failed if not remediated.

(OK at the same time there were consultants who made a lot of money out of "precaution" but there you go)

One day I was in the street outside the govt department where I had worked as a programmer about 20 years earlier. Someone knew came out of the building, I asked him what he was doing, he said "Y2K remediation - hey, I saw your name in the Author field of some code the other day!"

"WTF They are still using that system?!?!"

(And yes, it was not Y2K compliant.)

 

[marvin]

I'm no health expert, but the minimal amount of infections in this country does not say 'pandemic'. Even in Vic, which has the most, this is so minor as to be insignificant. Sure, keep borders closed and take precautions, but it's time to loosen the restrictions nationwide. There is no risk to the SA public by having a couple of footy teams fly in and out. We can still take precautions. I have the feeling that our political 'leaders' and health officials are revelling in their power to control us all.

You probably could have left it at that first phrase.

"keep borders closed and take precautions, but it's time to loosen the restrictions" - what exactly do you mean there? Border closure is a massive restriction.

"there is no risk to the SA public...." doesn't stack up. Minimal risk, acceptable risk, manageable risk maybe. There's no such thing as no risk with this.

"revelling in their power...." really? I can't see any of our political leaders, no matter what party or where they have jurisdiction, who are reveling in this. No matter which premier, prime minister, senior health official or other leader is speaking, all I see is incredibly tired, massively stressed individual who would rather be having root canals daily than having to make the decisions in front of them.